Out over my skis. Did Coach Franklin call them and give his opinion or did they really understand what the expenditures are doing to increase value? In the world of CF PSU take a backseat to nobody.
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Brilliance, huh?"Joebots need to die off so we can get back to winning again."
Me? Neither, really. Some here want to see more money spent to improve football facilities. If that is to happen at PSU, then I would support the former, but I would want to see where the money would come from (i.e., which programs would lose this left pocket, right pocket game, how much they would lose, and the impact of such losses). I would never support fees levied on students to support football expenditures. Best of all would be contributions from well-heeled donors to address facility needs.
Aw hell. Why am I concerned? Sandy’s got this.
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"Joebots need to die off so we can get back to winning again."
My sig pic is why we aren’t bama? Damn, I had no idea it was so easy.
So riddle me this, Wizard. You're upset with the Joebots because they won't blindly hand over money and because of their actions, they're hamstringing Franklin. But they also need to die off so that Penn State can win again. You see the complete lack of logic in those two ideas, don't you? They're already not giving enough, according to you. So what does their dying off have to do with anything? Seems like you just wanted to rant and weren't worried about making illogical statements. Carry on.
My children didn’t go to McLean HS. Last HS to get a terf field. So yes my 27,000 in tax dollars are the last to vote yes
Not sure if this is sarcasm or not. I was there once, before renovations. My seat in the corner curve was pie shaped, about 8 inches in the front and larger in the back, but I don't have a pie shaped ass. When I got there, my seat was taken by people who had tickets. I inquired with the ?ushers and they said they couldn't do anything, so I sat on the steps. They told me I could not sit there. I explained and they said they couldn't do anything.
So, did they fix this?
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Don't worry about blocking me. I'm nearly dead.
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Don't worry, Bob. There is no right answer. Enjoy the process. I don't think anyone's used the Socratic method for pedagogical purposes on this board before. And to think it's almost toast. Sad.
“Enjoy the process.”
Whatever PSU’s leaderers do, please respect their decision.
Even when there’s no right answer, I guess wrong. 😞
Good. The Joebots need to die off so we can win like we did when Joe was the coach.
What's really amusing is the funding passed, yet the idiots want to portray a victory as a loss. I guess negative publicity is good for the program they purport to love and support?
I’d like a trustee who knows something about higher education and who has leadership skills. Contrary to popular belief on this board, there are more important things than football.
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Sounds like winning a game by 3 or 4 scores, but the BWI CAC is still not happy? At least they are consistent.
You should have sat on someone’s lap and exclaimed “we’re in my seat”.
Over the course of Barbour's tenure, the Athletic Department generates a surplus of $10mm in a good year, significantly less in a typical one.
Then start with $25mm (Barbour's number) already borrowed to cover the hole created by Covid 19, $40mm for (this) Lasch Phase 2, and another $35mm for Lasch Phase 3.
So when does the debt get paid off? No high finance here, just simple arithmetic.
It's on page 2 now.
Peter and Ann Tombros commit $26 MM to PSU.
Will cover many areas. See the link below. Highlights from the article: “UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — Peter and Ann Tombros, longtime philanthropic and volunteer leaders for Penn State, have made a new commitment of $26 million that places them among the top five donors in the University's history...
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Two separate issues…
One, I fully support Franklin and the team. I buy tickets, attend and cheer.
Two, won’t give a donation to the school until they fully honor Joe. Not one cent. Did not attend PSU but once donated thousands of dollars. Haven’t donated a dime in 10 years. Won’t do it till until they honor Joe. My guess is there are hundreds, maybe thousands just like me.
Please enlighten me.
PSU has a budget , I believe, in excess of 2 billion.
Agree that successful team attracts applicants and generally raise the academic profile of the school. Attracts endowment money.
Football may gross what $125 million and net maybe $50 million, maybe. And most schools are lucky if they break even.
So, I guess I should find a new hobby, given the thorough analysis that was provided.
^^^^THIS^^^^
Many programs will perish over time.
IMHO, we are left with a "Super League" anchored by southern schools with less professional competition. Everyone else slowly reverts back to what CFB used to be...student-athletes playing football.
Nobody cares about the minors. When CFB becomes semi-professional, interest and money will wane.
Well, it's not just that--for me. It more has to do with the relationship between the alumni and fans and what the administration did. While I don't believe there was any culpability in Paterno's part, I do understand how reasonable people might disagree. The real issue is how the administration also sold out the fans and alumni by accepting collective guilt on their behalf when the NCAA demanded it. Again, I understand why--the media fury etc. But they never apologized for it.
I had a long lunch discussion last week with a PSU staffer from my college (who works in fund raising) about this issue. The person was a recent graduate and did not know as much about some of these issues--and what happened to some of the alums outside the PSU bubble. I noted that PSU lost a endowed scholarship as a result. Instead, we are endowing a fund at a nonprofit we support. He was thankful I was frank about the issues and noted that there's quite a number of alums who won't even meet with PSU folks.
There's one other issue I have--and that's the takeover of Alumni Council by a small cabal. That impacts my feeling about the institutution as a whole. But, it really is a separate issue (excepting that the same methods were used to take over the BOT). I may reconsider giving to PSU at some point, if an apology happens (I'm not holding my breath). The Alumni Association? Never.
While I agree with this, it was the psu bot who actively created and fed the media narrative, so I don't agree they were merely responding to or afraid of the media, nor the notion that any of them were reasonable or trying to be in any shape or form.
The core leadership of the BOT knew precisely what they were doing and were in lockstep with Corbett and the OAG (where he was still the puppet master). There may have been 15 or more BOT who had no idea what was really going on, or what the plan was. There were deer in the headlights.
Once they got Spanier out of the way.....Rodney the Meek was a tool.....in more ways than one.
I'm not sure they created anything. It was a firestorm. I'm not minimizing their contribution to that situation either. It wasn't good. They may have fed it. Maybe. Certainly, some members of the BOT were a lot more culpable than others. My point was more that, even today, Penn Staters are conflicted about Joe's role. However, there should have been no question about the alumni and fans. So what the BOT did to the alumni deserves an apology. I'd like that from the current administration. Not expecting anything from the old guard.
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