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Wow. This could be very important. Hard right now, without a detailed knowledge of the criminal procedures of PA to sort it all out, but the media will try to do so over the next few days, then we will find out the truth when some real lawyers familiar with the procedures and the constitutional dimension of all this, weigh in.Awesome news. Thanks to JimmyW for a link to the docket.
Charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and conspiracy are quashed.
I guess FTR and EWOC are the remaining charges. I guess the state is still trying to go ex post facto on those...smh. Amazing that of all the people to get charged with that its the admins and not anyone from CCCYS ot TSM ( JR and Heim). Smh
It will be spun as being let free on a technicality.
Wow. This could be very important. Hard right now, without a detailed knowledge of the criminal procedures of PA to sort it all out, but the media will try to do so over the next few days, then we will find out the truth when some real lawyers familiar with the procedures and the constitutional dimension of all this, weigh in.
First domino: PA court finally admits they don't have a case against S/S/C and drops most/all of charges. I actually want this one to go to trial in hopes of getting more of the TRUTH.
Second domino: NCAA seeing that the whole basis of their illegal sanctions was based on a lie (Freeh Report) will have to settle out of court and pay $$$ to the Paterno family.
Third domino: The alumni trustees finally get to read all of the Freeh information and find illegal activities involving the OG BOTs and turn the information over to the proper authorities. Frazer, Peetz, Surma, Garman, Eckel and the rest are charged.
A guy can hope!
No, I think we all need to wait for Crusin to tell us what to think.
This is exactly what will happen. I'm not sure this is super news for truth, justice, and the American way.
I don't know, Lundy, but I am guessing that is so. The only reason for the second indictment appears to have been because Curley and Schultz did not "flip" on Spanier like Fina expected them to. I think the prosecution knows the original indictments of Curley and Schultz are weak just in terms of the state of the law at the time of the crime. The big question is can the prosecution appeal to the Supreme Court?So if only related to Baldwin testimony, the original charges from Nov 2011 still apply?
No, I think we all need to wait for Cruising to tell us what to think.
What you say is certainly true. But because the remedy is not complete is no reason to reject it. The remedy, late as it is, still has a great deal of value.Damage already done. Can't undo the "anchoring" so superbly done at the beginning of all this.
As the charges fade away the criminal defendants may yet get a chance to tell their story. They have been bottled up by the criminal charges for a long time now. If the charges all go, we will get what they have.This is great news for the defendants and for PSU's reputation. But for all of those on here that said 'I want the truth no matter what' this is bad news
...Or Schultz's case against Baldwin.wonder how this will affect Spanier's defamation suit against Freeh . . .
Dem, I had thought that there would be no way Baldwin's testimony could be permitted to be used. I mean, I watch enough detective shows to think that maybe I know enough to predict no way her testimony would have been allowed to be used. And yet it's taken all this time, and by an Appeals Court to boot. Am I missing something here?Wow. This could be very important. Hard right now, without a detailed knowledge of the criminal procedures of PA to sort it all out, but the media will try to do so over the next few days, then we will find out the truth when some real lawyers familiar with the procedures and the constitutional dimension of all this, weigh in.
If this plays out the way it is looking.......right there are a few folks who got f&cked over by The Fina Boys (almost) as bad as anyone in the entire escapade.Waiting for Towny to show up and comment. He is convinced that CSS are bad guys.
Waiting for Towny to show up and comment. He is convinced that CSS are bad guys.
I would have thought so, too, but that was before I understood how thoroughly corrupt the OAG's office was. I am used to taking a prosecutor's word for the broad outlines, but I have learned these people are absolutely not worthy of any trust at all. We will just have to read the opinion. Seems like the court will say, "Hey, they SAID she was their attorney, and there would have been no other reason for her to be there."Dem, I had thought that there would be no way Baldwin's testimony could be permitted to be used. I mean, I watch enough detective shows to think that maybe I know enough to predict no way her testimony would have been allowed to be used. And yet it's taken all this time, and by an Appeals Court to boot. Am I missing something here?
As the charges fade away the criminal defendants may yet get a chance to tell their story. They have been bottled up by the criminal charges for a long time now. If the charges all go, we will get what they have.