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Good God. Who measured up to Marvin Harrison Jr. NO ONE!You may be right and I think his late opting out of the bowl will be looked at by scouts as ducking a challenge after he didn't measure up against Marvin Harrison.
Exactly. Both our corners ducked the Ole Miss receiving core. They weren't afraid of injuries. They were afraid of getting smoked.You may be right and I think his late opting out of the bowl will be looked at by scouts as ducking a challenge after he didn't measure up against Marvin Harrison.
I’ll make a bet with you. If he gets drafted in 5th or later I’ll never post again. If he goes earlier you leave. Do you have the stones?5th round. Hopefully he's content with that. Penn State is the only program in the nation that encourages kids to leave early who aren't even close to first round talent.
2nd round…he’s more likely to go in round 1 than slip to the 3rd day. God, are your takes awful on this stuff.5th round. Hopefully he's content with that. Penn State is the only program in the nation that encourages kids to leave early who aren't even close to first round talent.
Dude, he’d just come back with his 7th new handle…then again, there is no risk in your part with that one.I’ll make a bet with you. If he gets drafted in 5th or later I’ll never post again. If he goes earlier you leave. Do you have the stones?
Is this comment intended to be a joke because you can’t be serious.You may be right and I think his late opting out of the bowl will be looked at by scouts as ducking a challenge after he didn't measure up against Marvin Harrison.
Incorrect. He wasn't cooking in every game all year. But, he roasted King. It was brutalGood God. Who measured up to Marvin Harrison Jr. NO ONE!
BS ....Incorrect. He wasn't cooking in every game all year. But, he roasted King. It was brutal
Harrison was a Heisman finalist for a reasonIncorrect. He wasn't cooking in every game all year. But, he roasted King. It was brutal
The NFL is about the second contract. Many here still think you have to be an early pick to go. That's not true. See Rasheed Walker and Parker Washington. Both went late but are starting/contributing which earns them more $ in the long run. They're betting on themselves.King needed another year to improve his draft status.
Let it go, you’ve crossed the line into the ridiculous.5th round. Hopefully he's content with that. Penn State is the only program in the nation that encourages kids to leave early who aren't even close to first round talent.
And your report is from whom? Yes you are wrong.100% serious. King built his reputation against bad passing attacks and didn't measure up to top competition. I can only surmise that he made a very late decision to duck Ole Miss because he was afraid of getting exposed. Otherwise, why stay with your team, steal practice reps through the bowl prep from young teammates who were going to get thrown to the wolves, and then back out last minute? I could be wrong, but that is the report that I have heard that even his teammates in the secondary didn't know he was opting out.
Obviously....but his numbers vs King were not synonymous with every other CB1 in each of his games. Kalen got wrecked.Harrison was a Heisman finalist for a reason
It isn't wrong...there was an article that quoted a player (might have been Reed) who didn't realize King wasn't playing until last minuteAnd your report is from whom? Yes you are wrong.
He did. As we tried to put King on him 1v1 which most NFL CBs can't handle. Our scheme but us in that game. What how most teams tried to stop him.Obviously....but his numbers vs King were not synonymous with every other CB1 in each of his games. Kalen got wrecked.
Absolutely, I'm not disagreeing with you… he might get drafted in the first round, but that doesn't mean he didn't have an underwhelming yr and really did not make many plays. there's a reason why Johnny Dixon was Manny's go to guy for blitzing and overall playmaking. But apparently there are some pretty big fan boys of king on here who are sensitive todayHe did. As we tried to put King on him 1v1 which most NFL CBs can't handle. Our scheme but us in that game. What how most teams tried to stop him.
Harrison is the best route runner the college game has seen in decades. I said King had a down year (not just that game) but that has zero impact on him entering the draft. If you're going to be drafted, in any round, you go.
Unless you're a RB and the NIL $ is crazy good
RBs don't get paid any more on their second deals. The NFL discards them. A couple years ago I'd have agreed with you but unless you're a top 5 back you're replaceable.That's dumb. RBs have shorter careers. If anyone should go early, it is a RB to save mileage and increase their odds of getting to that 2nd contract.
It was stated he was afraid?It was stated by one of our own safeties in a post-game report.
And that couldn’t possibly have been just one player that didn’t know.It isn't wrong...there was an article that quoted a player (might have been Reed) who didn't realize King wasn't playing until last minute
Lando...read his post again...it was stated the player didn't know King was opting out until last minute. Not that he was afraid.It was stated he was afraid?
Gotta a link for that one?
Lando...read his post again...it was stated the player didn't know King was opting out until last minute. Not that he was afraid.
100% serious. King built his reputation against bad passing attacks and didn't measure up to top competition. I can only surmise that he made a very late decision to duck Ole Miss because he was afraid of getting exposed. Otherwise, why stay with your team, steal practice reps through the bowl prep from young teammates who were going to get thrown to the wolves, and then back out last minute? I could be wrong, but that is the report that I have heard that even his teammates in the secondary didn't know he was opting out.
I read it the other way. And, there was a quote saying as much. Either way, the whole thing stinks, from the fake culture JF preaches to guys sitting out. I'm starting to come around now that the whole program knew who was opting out and duped the fans so as to get more people to head to Atlanta. Does anyone put it past JF to cloud his messaging?Please follow the thread...he's stating the report he heard was that King was afraid.
I still think he said what he said primarily because he believes that what our fan base wants to here "we're different than others". I think most players likely opted out after tickets and flights would have been purchased. But no I dont put it past him. Like most coaches he's a salesman. Part of his job is getting our fans to spend money.I read it the other way. And, there was a quote saying as much. Either way, the whole thing stinks, from the fake culture JF preaches to guys sitting out. I'm starting to come around now that the whole program knew who was opting out and duped the fans so as to get more people to head to Atlanta. Does anyone put it past JF to cloud his messaging?
Agreed overall. But, fans crave PSU football and we cherish the 7 home games. He isn't bringing fans out for Delaware, Umass and the other garbage on the schedule. It's our craving and love for PSU football, which started way before he arrived. With that being said, I think his wiggle room is over...high-end donors can't be happy and I'm guessing his 'ask for more because we are behind' days are slowly ending. It's time to deliver -- and I don't mean beating WVU and UCLA next year and calling it a good season.I still think he said what he said primarily because he believes that what our fan base wants to here "we're different than others". I think most players likely opted out after tickets and flights would have been purchased. But no I dont put it past him. Like most coaches he's a salesman. Part of his job is getting our fans to spend money.
Look at how many people got to games against teams like Delaware and UMass. He's got us and will continue to manipulate things as long as it works. Maybe this helps some see the light.
I can only surmise that he made a very late decision to duck Ole Miss because he was afraid of getting exposed.
Lmao100% serious. King built his reputation against bad passing attacks and didn't measure up to top competition. I can only surmise that he made a very late decision to duck Ole Miss because he was afraid of getting exposed. Otherwise, why stay with your team, steal practice reps through the bowl prep from young teammates who were going to get thrown to the wolves, and then back out last minute? I could be wrong, but that is the report that I have heard that even his teammates in the secondary didn't know he was opting out.
I suppose that it can be both. It isn't necessarily mutually exclusive. He could have wanted to enjoy a trip with his brother and also not wanted to get exposed by a high-powered passing attack. There will certainly be different interpretations.
To be fair, if King was around for practices and realized how inept the defense might be without Diaz, Chop, etc maybe he was smart to opt out so he wasn't put in a bad situation.
Ultimately the players need to do what is best for them. King did. We should support that.
Were you about to enter the draft and sign a contract for millions?I know as a former D1 athlete that I wanted to compete every opportunity that I had.
Boy everyone is a d1 athlete on a free message board lol.Were you about to enter the draft and sign a contract for millions?
Were Chop and Olu afraid to compete? Was Dixon? I think those are obvious no. Great competitors
Why King?
I am unhappy with all of that (Franklin only recently but I am truly on the fence on him, he likely hit his ceiling, but he is a good man and representative of the program).
And no, there is no article saying that King ducked Ole Miss at the last minute because their WRs would have exposed him. That is my opinion. I don't think anyone (teammate, coach, writer) is going to come out and put something like that on record. Doesn't mean it wasn't true. It is merely my best guess. I know as a former D1 athlete that I wanted to compete every opportunity that I had.
So if we aren't a current or former d1 athlete, we can't be on a message board? Sounds like what Lambert-Smith was chastising fans about on Twitter.Boy everyone is a d1 athlete on a free message board lol.
My point was this new guy said he was a former D1 athlete. I’m just stating it’s amazing how many people claim that in a free message board.So if we aren't a current or former d1 athlete, we can't be on a message board? Sounds like what Lambert-Smith was chastising fans about on Twitter.