What does that say about where PSU and the conference is? OSU went undefeated by double digits and it’s easy to chalk our losses up as OSU “being one of greatest teams ever” but what if not? Are we the baddies then?
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What does that say about where PSU and the conference is? OSU went undefeated by double digits and it’s easy to chalk our losses up as OSU “being one of greatest teams ever” but what if not? Are we the baddies then?
You are probably both dying to tell us and hoping it happens. Are we the baddies then?What does that say about where PSU and the conference is? OSU went undefeated by double digits and it’s easy to chalk our losses up as OSU “being one of greatest teams ever” but what if not? Are we the baddies then?
What does that say about where PSU and the conference is? OSU went undefeated by double digits and it’s easy to chalk our losses up as OSU “being one of greatest teams ever” but what if not? Are we the baddies then?
I said IF. I think this OSU team is better than ‘16 when they got trounced and Clemson isn’t as good, even though that team did lose to Pitt at home.You think Clemson is beating OSU? Based on what? Who has Clemson played or beaten this year?
You think Clemson is beating OSU? Based on what? Who has Clemson played or beaten this year?
I do think it’s relevant. The last month has been a theme that PSU is almost there and absent OSU being one of best teams ever we’d have won and be in the playoff. If the premise is wrong then how close are we really? OSU winning the NC or losing close means we are really close, if not though then what?You and @butchnitt need to take a break from posting these "what if" threads.
If QB Fabio gets hurt, OSU wins for sure.This who have they beaten stuff is bs. when was the last time they lost a game? They win when they play, that’s what matters. Nobody wants to lay them. Why? That smirking faced quarterback of theirs is damn good. There receivers play as good as anyones. Their TB is excellent. They have a great OL. Their defense is full of premium athletes. They are the defending champs.
can they beat tOSU? Yes. That does not mean they will. It is just dumb to think otherwise.
What does that say about where PSU and the conference is? OSU went undefeated by double digits and it’s easy to chalk our losses up as OSU “being one of greatest teams ever” but what if not? Are we the baddies then?
Well he’s on the verge of 11 wins again so no.FIRE. FRANKLIN.
I do think it’s relevant. The last month has been a theme that PSU is almost there and absent OSU being one of best teams ever we’d have won and be in the playoff. If the premise is wrong then how close are we really? OSU winning the NC or losing close means we are really close, if not though then what?
I do think it’s relevant. The last month has been a theme that PSU is almost there and absent OSU being one of best teams ever we’d have won and be in the playoff. If the premise is wrong then how close are we really? OSU winning the NC or losing close means we are really close, if not though then what?
Of course I want OSU to lose. Their players are too annoying, they do a little skit after every good play. It also hurts us in recruiting even further if they do well.You are probably both dying to tell us and hoping it happens. Are we the baddies then?
What is B1? And yes I know a few of you would rather see PSU lose than win just so you can post “see I told you so” and that is not keeping us it real that is just being a jagoff.Our program has gone sideways since the B1
Ha ha - I did not know that, apologies.please don’t ask logical questions. There is no room for it here if not pro-PSU all the time. This is a Penn State forum but don’t get confused by the word forum as there is only one viewpoint accepted.
Well he’s on the verge of 11 wins again so no.
Well he’s on the verge of 11 wins again so no.
I’ve gleaned that from some posters but I want PSU to win. But if OSU can’t stay on the field against nc caliber teams, that says something. We tell ourselves the B10 is great and OSU is great, but last 2 trips to playoff the B10 has failed to even score in 8 quarters.What is B1? And yes I know a few of you would rather see PSU lose than win just so you can post “see I told you so” and that is not keeping us it real that is just being a jagoff.
Saban and Alabama have gone sideways too! No...actually they've stepped back!Our program has gone sideways since the B1G championship 3 years ago. No playoffs. 4-5 record vs our primary foes in the B1G East. 1-2 in bowl games, for what that’s worth. We are no closer or further away than we were at this time in 2016.
Why do you think that is? Maybe because it’s getting harder to tell the PSU “fans” from the Pitt trolls.please don’t ask logical questions. There is no room for it here if not pro-PSU all the time. This is a Penn State forum but don’t get confused by the word forum as there is only one viewpoint accepted.
Saban and Alabama have gone sideways too! No...actually they've stepped back!
Fire Saban!
please don’t ask logical questions. There is no room for it here if not pro-PSU all the time. This is a Penn State forum but don’t get confused by the word forum as there is only one viewpoint accepted.[/QUOTE
Logical? Loaded hypothetical?
Pitt trolls don’t ask logical questions.Why do you think that is? Maybe because it’s getting harder to tell the PSU “fans” from the Pitt trolls.
Wow, then a lot of coaches should be fired.No, he has a resume of national championships and playoff wins. He has earned forgiveness for One sideways or down year. Coaches that have no playoff appearances have not yet earned that.
Exactly.....my argument gets strengthened. The whiners on here don’t ask logical questions either....they bitch in circles and come up with new complaints to fit their agenda.Pitt trolls don’t ask logical questions.
Hope for a one point Clemson win then winning NC big. That tells us we are 2-3 players away.OSU is great but not amazing, and it was evident vs. both PSU and Wisconsin. Actually you could see it in some other games as well, if you watched closely.
OSU has had far better teams than this one.
I think Clemson will easily defeat them
This who have they beaten stuff is bs. when was the last time they lost a game? They win when they play, that’s what matters. Nobody wants to lay them. Why? That smirking faced quarterback of theirs is damn good. There receivers play as good as anyones. Their TB is excellent. They have a great OL. Their defense is full of premium athletes. They are the defending champs.
can they beat tOSU? Yes. That does not mean they will. It is just dumb to think otherwise.
This no one wants to play Clemson in the playoffs is the real BS.
You understand you are in a small minority nationally with that opinion?
True, they have an easy path to the playoffs, but they play well when the get there, and they win impressively more often than not. Others know that.
When you have probably six layup wins and only four or five real toss ups on your schedule, 10 wins is not all that much to expect. It means you were 3-2 or 4-2 in games that mattered.
Waste of time to discuss this. Play the game then discuss.What does that say about where PSU and the conference is? OSU went undefeated by double digits and it’s easy to chalk our losses up as OSU “being one of greatest teams ever” but what if not? Are we the baddies then?
And, of course, they have a coach who’s been in and won these big games several times in recent years. Tosu’s coach has not.This who have they beaten stuff is bs. when was the last time they lost a game? They win when they play, that’s what matters. Nobody wants to lay them. Why? That smirking faced quarterback of theirs is damn good. There receivers play as good as anyones. Their TB is excellent. They have a great OL. Their defense is full of premium athletes. They are the defending champs.
can they beat tOSU? Yes. That does not mean they will. It is just dumb to think otherwise.
And you think it doesn’t matter that they get in because they play nobody during the regular season, especially this year? You think that they would be undefeated over the last 28 games if they played in the Big Ten East? Get serious. Their last loss was to “mighty” Syracuse. They also were a 2 point conversion away this year from losing to UNC. This no one wants to play Clemson in the playoffs is the real BS.