For those who don’t believe an upset win @ OSU is possible

[GulfCoastLion]

Not saying PSU wins this one, but history says an upset, even a big upset is possible. See Sports Headline and article from New York Times 1964 below:


https://www.nytimes.com/ The New York Times

Nov 8, 1964

PENN STATE UPSETS OHIO STATE;
LIONS WIN, 27‐0; 84,279 See Buckeyes Limited to Five First Downs, 63 Yards.

The New York Times

COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov. 7—Penn State's four‐time losers turned number 2 Ohio State's juggernaut into a stumbling, fumbling giant today and beat the highly favored Buckeyes, 27‐0, in what must go into the books as the season's biggest college‐football upset.

The Nittany Lions, in gaining their fourth victory in four games with Ohio State, annihilated both the offense and the defense of Coach Woody Hayes's Big Ten Conference leaders.

With Garry Wydman guiding the Lions at quarterback, and Tom Urbanik, the fullback, blasting the forward wall, Penn State scored in every quarter. The shutout, Ohio State's first in 45 games, blasted any remaining hopes for a national championship. The Buckeyes had been ranked second nationally in The Associated Press poll.

The victors went 65 yards in eight plays, 35 in five, 42 in seven and 64 in 10 for their touchdowns. Ohio State failed to reach enemy territory until the final minute.

Ohio State's last shutout was in 1959 in a scoreless tie with Indiana.

With a crowd of 84,279 watching, the Buckeyes appeared battered and bewildered. They were completely futile in the opening half as they failed to score a first down and wound up with a yardage total of minus 14.

It wasn't much better in the second half. Ohio State's initial first down came with 5:11 left in the third quarter, and it was on a penalty. The Bucks had only five first clowns for the entire day, their lowest output in memory. Penn State, with 22 first downs, overwhelmed the home team in total offense, 349 yards to 63.

Don Kunit scored Penn State's last two touchdowns, on runs of 2 yards and 5 yards. Wydman scored on a 3‐yard option run, and Dirk Nye put over the opener when he recovered Urbanik's fumble in the end zone. The attendance lifted Ohio State's five‐game gate to 415,530. It was Dad's Day, and the fathers of most players were seated on the sideline for the humiliating defeat. The only thing Ohio State won was the opening toss.

The Buckeyes actually advanced for 75 yards on the; ground, but the charging Penn State forward wall threw them for 42 yards in losses.

 

[GulfCoastLion]

And just to make sure that those unbelievers who think it was a one time event, check out this headline and article from the Washington Post back in 1978, when I was a sophomore at Penn State and a game I remember very well.

Penn State Romps, 19-0 over #6 Ohio State

The Washington Post
By David DuPree.
September 17, 1978, Columbus Ohio

Ohio State put its new air-oriented offense on display yesterday, and Penn State brought it crashing back to earth.

The score was 19-0 and Ohio State was fortunate, it was that close.

Coach Woody Hayes had closed his preseason practices, and yesterday he unveiled a new, wide-open passing offense featuring freshman quarterback Art Schlicher. The offensive strategy marked a wide departure from the Buckeyes' usual crunching ground game.

The philosophy fizzed as Penn State intercepted five of Schlichter's passes and made him fumble away the ball another time. Ohio State turned the ball over eight times while Penn State had only one giveaway.

"We never felt they could move the ball on us and I never thought we were in any danger," said Penn State Coach Joe Paterno.

He added he was not surprised by Ohio State's passing.

"They weren't going to run on us. I knew that," Paterno said, "(Matt) Millen and (Bruce) Clark are two of the best defensive linemen in the country and this is our strongest defense physically since 1969."

Matt Suhey scored on a three-yard run in the third quarter and Matt Bahr kicked four field goals and an extra point to account for the scoring.

The best chance Ohio State had at scoring was in the game's final minute against Penn State's second team. The Buckeyes had a first down and goal at the three and in four downs lost two yards.

It was that kind of game for Ohio State.

This was the fist shutout of Ohio State since Michigan did the trick in 1976. The Buckeyes now have lost three games in a row, including the final two last season.

Penn State had looked mediocre in earlier victories over Temple and Rutgers and after the first half ended with the visitors nursing a 3-0 lead yesterday, it didn't appear the Nittnay Lions had improved much.


Ohio State had outgained them by 100 yards in the first half and it was the four turnovers in eight possessions that kept the Buckeyes from scoring.

Chuck Fusina, Penn State's all-American candidate at quarterback, was only six of 14 passing for 65 yards that half. Then, early in the third quarter, Fusina got sacked for the fifth and what turned out to be the last time. On the next play he threw his only interception and Penn State's only turnover of the game.

On Penn State's next series, however, the Nittany Lions flexed their muscles and drove 80 yards in 13 plays on a six-minute drive. Fusina threw only one pass on that series and alternated running backs Suhey and Mike Guman on drives over tackle the other 12 plays. Sukey's three-yard touchdown run and Bahr's coversion gave Penn State a 10-0 lead.

After that drive it seemed Penn State was convinced it could out muscle the Buckeyes.

Suhey carried eight times for 41 yards and Guman four for 19 on the touchdown drive.

"Our kids came in at halftime and said they thought they could run on them," Paterno said. "So I said, "Why not'"

Ohio State got desperate after that and Schlichter, who ended the day completing 12 of 26 passes for 182 yards, went four for 10 and threw three interceptions in the fourth quarter before being relieved.

Bahr turned each of Schlichter's fourth-period interceptions into field goals. He now has kicked nine of 11 in only three games, and this was the second straight game in which he has kicked four.

"This was about as bad an opener as we have ever played," Hayes said. "There were just too many turnovers. Penn State's defense had a lot to do with that, but some of our trouble was of our own making."


Though he kept it a secret, Hayes said he decided last week to start Schlichter ahead of two-year starter and All-Big Ten quarterback Rod Gerald. He said the decision was made partly because Gerald had has been slowed by a leg injury much of the preseason.

"We will stay with Schlichter, but we will also use Rod," Hayes added.

Ohio State's passing attack was plagued by the same ailment that afflicted its running game for so many years - predictability. The Buckeyes passed in all the obvious passing situations and ran on the obvious running downs.It's attack may have been wide open, but it was not very imaginative.

Ohio State was backed up on its 11-and eight-yard lines, for instance, Hayes put Gerald at quarterback and the Buckeyes staged on the ground. Once there was good field position, Hayes returned to Schlichter.

"We thought we could throw on them because they lost most of their secondary from last year," Hayes said. "But they were much better in that area than we expected.

"What we have to do now is go back and establish a running game to go along with our passing." After a pause, Hayes added, "I never thought I'd be saying that."

 

[kentuckycb]

Not saying PSU wins this one, but history says an upset, even a big upset is possible. See Sports Headline and article from New York Times 1964 below:


https://www.nytimes.com/ The New York Times

Nov 8, 1964

PENN STATE UPSETS OHIO STATE;
LIONS WIN, 27‐0; 84,279 See Buckeyes Limited to Five First Downs, 63 Yards.

The New York Times

COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov. 7—Penn State's four‐time losers turned number 2 Ohio State's juggernaut into a stumbling, fumbling giant today and beat the highly favored Buckeyes, 27‐0, in what must go into the books as the season's biggest college‐football upset.

The Nittany Lions, in gaining their fourth victory in four games with Ohio State, annihilated both the offense and the defense of Coach Woody Hayes's Big Ten Conference leaders.

With Garry Wydman guiding the Lions at quarterback, and Tom Urbanik, the fullback, blasting the forward wall, Penn State scored in every quarter. The shutout, Ohio State's first in 45 games, blasted any remaining hopes for a national championship. The Buckeyes had been ranked second nationally in The Associated Press poll.

The victors went 65 yards in eight plays, 35 in five, 42 in seven and 64 in 10 for their touchdowns. Ohio State failed to reach enemy territory until the final minute.

Ohio State's last shutout was in 1959 in a scoreless tie with Indiana.

With a crowd of 84,279 watching, the Buckeyes appeared battered and bewildered. They were completely futile in the opening half as they failed to score a first down and wound up with a yardage total of minus 14.

It wasn't much better in the second half. Ohio State's initial first down came with 5:11 left in the third quarter, and it was on a penalty. The Bucks had only five first clowns for the entire day, their lowest output in memory. Penn State, with 22 first downs, overwhelmed the home team in total offense, 349 yards to 63.

Don Kunit scored Penn State's last two touchdowns, on runs of 2 yards and 5 yards. Wydman scored on a 3‐yard option run, and Dirk Nye put over the opener when he recovered Urbanik's fumble in the end zone. The attendance lifted Ohio State's five‐game gate to 415,530. It was Dad's Day, and the fathers of most players were seated on the sideline for the humiliating defeat. The only thing Ohio State won was the opening toss.

The Buckeyes actually advanced for 75 yards on the; ground, but the charging Penn State forward wall threw them for 42 yards in losses.

"Penn State's four-time losers" ...geez, a little harsh there

 

[bcspsu]

And just to make sure that those unbelievers think it was a one time event, check out this headline and article from the Washington Post back in 1978, when I was a sophomore at Penn State and a game I remember very well.


Penn State Romps, 19-0 over #6 Ohio State

The Washington Post
By David DuPree.
September 17, 1978, Columbus Ohio

Ohio State put its new air-oriented offense on display yesterday, and Penn State brought it crashing back to earth.

The score was 19-0 and Ohio State was fortunate, it was that close.

Coach Woody Hayes had closed his preseason practices, and yesterday he unveiled a new, wide-open passing offense featuring freshman quarterback Art Schlicher. The offensive strategy marked a wide departure from the Buckeyes' usual crunching ground game.

The philosophy fizzed as Penn State intercepted five of Schlichter's passes and made him fumble away the ball another time. Ohio State turned the ball over eight times while Penn State had only one giveaway.

"We never felt they could move the ball on us and I never thought we were in any danger," said Penn State Coach Joe Paterno.

He added he was not surprised by Ohio State's passing.

"They weren't going to run on us. I knew that," Paterno said, "(Matt) Millen and (Bruce) Clark are two of the best defensive linemen in the country and this is our strongest defense physically since 1969."

Matt Suhey scored on a three-yard run in the third quarter and Matt Bahr kicked four field goals and an extra point to account for the scoring.

The best chance Ohio State had at scoring was in the game's final minute against Penn State's second team. The Buckeyes had a first down and goal at the three and in four downs lost two yards.

It was that kind of game for Ohio State.

This was the fist shutout of Ohio State since Michigan did the trick in 1976. The Buckeyes now have lost three games in a row, including the final two last season.

Penn State had looked mediocre in earlier victories over Temple and Rutgers and after the first half ended with the visitors nursing a 3-0 lead yesterday, it didn't appear the Nittnay Lions had improved much.


Ohio State had outgained them by 100 yards in the first half and it was the four turnovers in eight possessions that kept the Buckeyes from scoring.

Chuck Fusina, Penn State's all-American candidate at quarterback, was only six of 14 passing for 65 yards that half. Then, early in the third quarter, Fusina got sacked for the fifth and what turned out to be the last time. On the next play he threw his only interception and Penn State's only turnover of the game.

On Penn State's next series, however, the Nittany Lions flexed their muscles and drove 80 yards in 13 plays on a six-minute drive. Fusina threw only one pass on that series and alternated running backs Suhey and Mike Guman on drives over tackle the other 12 plays. Sukey's three-yard touchdown run and Bahr's coversion gave Penn State a 10-0 lead.

After that drive it seemed Penn State was convinced it could out muscle the Buckeyes.

Suhey carried eight times for 41 yards and Guman four for 19 on the touchdown drive.

"Our kids came in at halftime and said they thought they could run on them," Paterno said. "So I said, "Why not'"

Ohio State got desperate after that and Schlichter, who ended the day completing 12 of 26 passes for 182 yards, went four for 10 and threw three interceptions in the fourth quarter before being relieved.

Bahr turned each of Schlichter's fourth-period interceptions into field goals. He now has kicked nine of 11 in only three games, and this was the second straight game in which he has kicked four.

"This was about as bad an opener as we have ever played," Hayes said. "There were just too many turnovers. Penn State's defense had a lot to do with that, but some of our trouble was of our own making."


Though he kept it a secret, Hayes said he decided last week to start Schlichter ahead of two-year starter and All-Big Ten quarterback Rod Gerald. He said the decision was made partly because Gerald had has been slowed by a leg injury much of the preseason.

"We will stay with Schlichter, but we will also use Rod," Hayes added.

Ohio State's passing attack was plagued by the same ailment that afflicted its running game for so many years - predictability. The Buckeyes passed in all the obvious passing situations and ran on the obvious running downs.It's attack may have been wide open, but it was not very imaginative.

Ohio State was backed up on its 11-and eight-yard lines, for instance, Hayes put Gerald at quarterback and the Buckeyes staged on the ground. Once there was good field position, Hayes returned to Schlichter.

"We thought we could throw on them because they lost most of their secondary from last year," Hayes said. "But they were much better in that area than we expected.

"What we have to do now is go back and establish a running game to go along with our passing." After a pause, Hayes added, "I never thought I'd be saying that."

Ah, PSU played for the NC in1978. It probably was expected to beat that OSU team.

 

[GulfCoastLion]

Ah, PSU played for the NC in1978. It probably was expected to beat that OSU team.

Not so. Penn State was actually a 5-6 point underdog, since it was still early in the season. I believe we were ranked #5 and the Buckeyes were #6, but it was in Columbus and we were underdogs before the game.

 

[djm_psu_alum]

This isn't 1964 or 1978 and history does not actually repeat itself.

 

[bcspsu]

Not so. Penn State was actually a 5-6 point underdog, since it was still early in the season. I believe we were ranked #5 and the Buckeyes were #6, but it was in Columbus and we were underdogs before the game.

The 1978 PSU team was a veteran team that only had lost one game in 1977 and was primed to compete for the NC in 1978, whereas that OSU team was starting a true frosh at qb. PSU may have been an official underdog, but was far superior to that OSU team. That was the same OSU team that lost its bowl game when Woody Hayes puched the Clemson player; they weren't that good in 1978.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

As for 2019, I have no doubt that the players we have will give their 110% against THIS ohio state team. Not sure that’ll be enough, but I’m certain it will be a much better effort than they showed against Minny and Indy.

 

[mgkpsu]

I'm sorry, but there is a big difference between then and now. We have played Ohio State every year since Franklin arrived, which means that their coaches and players are quite familiar with our coaches and players. So it's a big difference from playing a school once every 5-10 years. Add in the fact that every game is now televised, and it's way harder to sneak up on any opponent.

People can feel free to believe that PSU has any shot on Saturday, and there might be at least some fraction of a % that it could happen, but please realize that most objective people think it's unlikely.

 

[BrucePa]

Ohio State is the best team money can buy. They are not compelled to play by NCAA rules. They are only in Columbus killing the 3-year time clock from high school to the NFL.

 

[jim cummings]

Any given Saturday.... we’ve been here before.

 

[IANit]

Not saying PSU wins this one, but history says an upset, even a big upset is possible. See Sports Headline and article from New York Times 1964 below:


https://www.nytimes.com/ The New York Times

Nov 8, 1964

PENN STATE UPSETS OHIO STATE;
LIONS WIN, 27‐0; 84,279 See Buckeyes Limited to Five First Downs, 63 Yards.

The New York Times

COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov. 7—Penn State's four‐time losers turned number 2 Ohio State's juggernaut into a stumbling, fumbling giant today and beat the highly favored Buckeyes, 27‐0, in what must go into the books as the season's biggest college‐football upset.

The Nittany Lions, in gaining their fourth victory in four games with Ohio State, annihilated both the offense and the defense of Coach Woody Hayes's Big Ten Conference leaders.

With Garry Wydman guiding the Lions at quarterback, and Tom Urbanik, the fullback, blasting the forward wall, Penn State scored in every quarter. The shutout, Ohio State's first in 45 games, blasted any remaining hopes for a national championship. The Buckeyes had been ranked second nationally in The Associated Press poll.

The victors went 65 yards in eight plays, 35 in five, 42 in seven and 64 in 10 for their touchdowns. Ohio State failed to reach enemy territory until the final minute.

Ohio State's last shutout was in 1959 in a scoreless tie with Indiana.

With a crowd of 84,279 watching, the Buckeyes appeared battered and bewildered. They were completely futile in the opening half as they failed to score a first down and wound up with a yardage total of minus 14.

It wasn't much better in the second half. Ohio State's initial first down came with 5:11 left in the third quarter, and it was on a penalty. The Bucks had only five first clowns for the entire day, their lowest output in memory. Penn State, with 22 first downs, overwhelmed the home team in total offense, 349 yards to 63.

Don Kunit scored Penn State's last two touchdowns, on runs of 2 yards and 5 yards. Wydman scored on a 3‐yard option run, and Dirk Nye put over the opener when he recovered Urbanik's fumble in the end zone. The attendance lifted Ohio State's five‐game gate to 415,530. It was Dad's Day, and the fathers of most players were seated on the sideline for the humiliating defeat. The only thing Ohio State won was the opening toss.

The Buckeyes actually advanced for 75 yards on the; ground, but the charging Penn State forward wall threw them for 42 yards in losses.

Call me crazy, but I'm kind of feeling some deja vu. But not with a previous Ohio State game. This reminds me a bit of 1981. Ohio State has looked unbeatable. But who have they really played? We ran the gauntlet and maybe got beat up a little bit. Some cracks are showing. Nobody is giving us much of a chance. Their QB is All-World. But he hasn't faced any adversity. I have reason to think he's not the mentally toughest guy out there. One, he went back on his PSU commitment. It happens, and we have kids who de-committed from other programs. But then when he did commit he went to his new school and when things didn't go his way right away he turned and ran again, and was about to go back to Georgia after a week or two at tOSU before his Dad vetoed that. I might be wrong about him, but I think despite his obvious talents that this kid is mentally fragile and if we can get to him he'll make mistakes.

 

[GTACSA]

Not saying PSU wins this one, but history says an upset, even a big upset is possible. See Sports Headline and article from New York Times 1964 below:

That night a VW was deposited in the duck pond in front of the President's House (University House).

 

[IANit]

Call me crazy, but I'm kind of feeling some deja vu. But not with a previous Ohio State game. This reminds me a bit of 1981. Ohio State has looked unbeatable. But who have they really played? We ran the gauntlet and maybe got beat up a little bit. Some cracks are showing. Nobody is giving us much of a chance. Their QB is All-World. But he hasn't faced any adversity. I have reason to think he's not the mentally toughest guy out there. One, he went back on his PSU commitment. It happens, and we have kids who de-committed from other programs. But then when he did commit he went to his new school and when things didn't go his way right away he turned and ran again, and was about to go back to Georgia after a week or two at tOSU before his Dad vetoed that. I might be wrong about him, but I think despite his obvious talents that this kid is mentally fragile and if we can get to him he'll make mistakes.

I may be a little wrong about him. His Mom says in an article from Cleveland.com that he de-committed over fear Moorhead would leave. Maybe he wasn't sold on Rahne/Gattis? So if we lose I'm blaming Rahne.

 

[osu68]

Not saying PSU wins this one, but history says an upset, even a big upset is possible. See Sports Headline and article from New York Times 1964 below:


https://www.nytimes.com/ The New York Times

Nov 8, 1964

PENN STATE UPSETS OHIO STATE;
LIONS WIN, 27‐0; 84,279 See Buckeyes Limited to Five First Downs, 63 Yards.

The New York Times

COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov. 7—Penn State's four‐time losers turned number 2 Ohio State's juggernaut into a stumbling, fumbling giant today and beat the highly favored Buckeyes, 27‐0, in what must go into the books as the season's biggest college‐football upset.

The Nittany Lions, in gaining their fourth victory in four games with Ohio State, annihilated both the offense and the defense of Coach Woody Hayes's Big Ten Conference leaders.

With Garry Wydman guiding the Lions at quarterback, and Tom Urbanik, the fullback, blasting the forward wall, Penn State scored in every quarter. The shutout, Ohio State's first in 45 games, blasted any remaining hopes for a national championship. The Buckeyes had been ranked second nationally in The Associated Press poll.

The victors went 65 yards in eight plays, 35 in five, 42 in seven and 64 in 10 for their touchdowns. Ohio State failed to reach enemy territory until the final minute.

Ohio State's last shutout was in 1959 in a scoreless tie with Indiana.

With a crowd of 84,279 watching, the Buckeyes appeared battered and bewildered. They were completely futile in the opening half as they failed to score a first down and wound up with a yardage total of minus 14.

It wasn't much better in the second half. Ohio State's initial first down came with 5:11 left in the third quarter, and it was on a penalty. The Bucks had only five first clowns for the entire day, their lowest output in memory. Penn State, with 22 first downs, overwhelmed the home team in total offense, 349 yards to 63.

Don Kunit scored Penn State's last two touchdowns, on runs of 2 yards and 5 yards. Wydman scored on a 3‐yard option run, and Dirk Nye put over the opener when he recovered Urbanik's fumble in the end zone. The attendance lifted Ohio State's five‐game gate to 415,530. It was Dad's Day, and the fathers of most players were seated on the sideline for the humiliating defeat. The only thing Ohio State won was the opening toss.

The Buckeyes actually advanced for 75 yards on the; ground, but the charging Penn State forward wall threw them for 42 yards in losses.

Gee, I was a Freshman at OSU that season and it was the only home game I missed. I gave my ticket to my sister's boyfriend at the time so they could go to the game and sit together. BTW, my student ticket for all home games (5? - including the Michigan game - cost $5 ! to add some costs perspective.)

 

[Thomas1945]

I may be a little wrong about him. His Mom says in an article from Cleveland.com that he de-committed over fear Moorhead would leave. Maybe he wasn't sold on Rahne/Gattis? So if we lose I'm blaming Rahne.

That’s a fair comment, but you’re shooting much too low. If Rahne lays an egg this Saturday with a poor game plan I’m sure that we can nail him for that assignation of Lincoln thing.

 

[BrazilianBuckeye]

Ohio State is the best team money can buy. They are not compelled to play by NCAA rules. They are only in Columbus killing the 3-year time clock from high school to the NFL.

If you have some sort of evidence that OSU admin, boosters or alums are paying for football players, I'd suggest (actually implore) you to submit that evidence to the NCAA. If not, perhaps you should quit whining and trying to make excuses for PSU not having a program of equality, although PSU is on the right track and have garnered respect of pretty much every OSU fan I know. You should learn respect.

 

[mn78psu83]

The improbable is possible.

 

[odshowtime]

If you have some sort of evidence that OSU admin, boosters or alums are paying for football players, I'd suggest (actually implore) you to submit that evidence to the NCAA. If not, perhaps you should quit whining and trying to make excuses for PSU not having a program of equality, although PSU is on the right track and have garnered respect of pretty much every OSU fan I know. You should learn respect.

Number one, who are you to come here and tell anyone how to act? GFY.

Number two, we all saw 2014. I don't respect osu, I fear osu because you're a bunch of god damned cheaters. Why is your QB not sitting a year? Why is he eligible now?

Don't bother answering because I don't care what you think.

 

[Thomas1945]

If you have some sort of evidence that OSU admin, boosters or alums are paying for football players, I'd suggest (actually implore) you to submit that evidence to the NCAA. If not, perhaps you should quit whining and trying to make excuses for PSU not having a program of equality, although PSU is on the right track and have garnered respect of pretty much every OSU fan I know. You should learn respect.

Please oh wise and learned one to whom should we bow down and respect? If I may paraphrase you might just want to consider “ That pride, arrogance and boasting goeth before the fall “.

 

[fastlax16]

If you have some sort of evidence that OSU admin, boosters or alums are paying for football players, I'd suggest (actually implore) you to submit that evidence to the NCAA. If not, perhaps you should quit whining and trying to make excuses for PSU not having a program of equality, although PSU is on the right track and have garnered respect of pretty much every OSU fan I know. You should learn respect.

You forgot to include family friends, who are probably alums and/or boosters (wonder why OSU or Chase won't name this one) but its fine because OSU plays it loose and fast with definitions. If you venmo Justin Fields a grand you can be a family friend too. Does every commit get a special family friend after enrolling?

 

[marshall23]

I may be a little wrong about him. His Mom says in an article from Cleveland.com that he de-committed over fear Moorhead would leave. Maybe he wasn't sold on Rahne/Gattis? So if we lose I'm blaming Rahne.

Imagine if CJF actually fired Rahne. What would all the "haters" do with their free time?Probably spend it building homes for Habitat for Humanity.

 

[MtNittany]

If you have some sort of evidence that OSU admin, boosters or alums are paying for football players, I'd suggest (actually implore) you to submit that evidence to the NCAA. If not, perhaps you should quit whining and trying to make excuses for PSU not having a program of equality, although PSU is on the right track and have garnered respect of pretty much every OSU fan I know. You should learn respect.

Go shit in your hat. You come here and demand we respect what exactly? Your boorish program? Hah!

 

[Lyons212]

If you have some sort of evidence that OSU admin, boosters or alums are paying for football players, I'd suggest (actually implore) you to submit that evidence to the NCAA. If not, perhaps you should quit whining and trying to make excuses for PSU not having a program of equality, although PSU is on the right track and have garnered respect of pretty much every OSU fan I know. You should learn respect.

Seriously, about every five years an Ohio State players get caught taking money and that is with a half hearted NCAA. Chase Young, tattoos and selling gear, Troy Smith taking money. There was AJ Hawke reporting a large amount of cash being stolen from his apartment.

Why is that Ohio State is one of the few programs that continually gets caught? Do they have that large compliance department to ensure their athletes are not cheating or is it to help cover it up? I think its the latter.

 

[IANit]

Imagine if CJF actually fired Rahne. What would all the "haters" do with their free time?Probably spend it building homes for Habitat for Humanity.

Nah, there would a new OC to hate on. I wonder if Fields and his family ever raised their concerns re Moorhead to CJF? Or if that was just a convenient excuse.

 

[marshall23]

Nah, there would a new OC to hate on. I wonder if Fields and his family ever raised their concerns re Moorhead to CJF? Or if that was just a convenient excuse.

It never made any sense for Fields to go to Georgia. They never fit him in any way. Who knows?

 

[LionDeNittany]

Not saying PSU wins this one, but history says an upset, even a big upset is possible. See Sports Headline and article from New York Times 1964 below:


https://www.nytimes.com/ The New York Times

Nov 8, 1964

PENN STATE UPSETS OHIO STATE;
LIONS WIN, 27‐0; 84,279 See Buckeyes Limited to Five First Downs, 63 Yards.

The New York Times

COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov. 7—Penn State's four‐time losers turned number 2 Ohio State's juggernaut into a stumbling, fumbling giant today and beat the highly favored Buckeyes, 27‐0, in what must go into the books as the season's biggest college‐football upset.

The Nittany Lions, in gaining their fourth victory in four games with Ohio State, annihilated both the offense and the defense of Coach Woody Hayes's Big Ten Conference leaders.

With Garry Wydman guiding the Lions at quarterback, and Tom Urbanik, the fullback, blasting the forward wall, Penn State scored in every quarter. The shutout, Ohio State's first in 45 games, blasted any remaining hopes for a national championship. The Buckeyes had been ranked second nationally in The Associated Press poll.

The victors went 65 yards in eight plays, 35 in five, 42 in seven and 64 in 10 for their touchdowns. Ohio State failed to reach enemy territory until the final minute.

Ohio State's last shutout was in 1959 in a scoreless tie with Indiana.

With a crowd of 84,279 watching, the Buckeyes appeared battered and bewildered. They were completely futile in the opening half as they failed to score a first down and wound up with a yardage total of minus 14.

It wasn't much better in the second half. Ohio State's initial first down came with 5:11 left in the third quarter, and it was on a penalty. The Bucks had only five first clowns for the entire day, their lowest output in memory. Penn State, with 22 first downs, overwhelmed the home team in total offense, 349 yards to 63.

Don Kunit scored Penn State's last two touchdowns, on runs of 2 yards and 5 yards. Wydman scored on a 3‐yard option run, and Dirk Nye put over the opener when he recovered Urbanik's fumble in the end zone. The attendance lifted Ohio State's five‐game gate to 415,530. It was Dad's Day, and the fathers of most players were seated on the sideline for the humiliating defeat. The only thing Ohio State won was the opening toss.

The Buckeyes actually advanced for 75 yards on the; ground, but the charging Penn State forward wall threw them for 42 yards in losses.

Noone thinks an upset win is impossible.

We just think it will be an upset.

LdN

 

[jbenedict]

I really, really, really want PSU to win. I do!!!! But I really, really, really think we are going to get lit up like a Christmas tree. I do not want one of those moral victories (keeping it close), I would like to have a flat out win. Period. Then again go back to my third sentence. Ouch

 

[PSU.:.]

If you have some sort of evidence that OSU admin, boosters or alums are paying for football players, I'd suggest (actually implore) you to submit that evidence to the NCAA. If not, perhaps you should quit whining and trying to make excuses for PSU not having a program of equality, although PSU is on the right track and have garnered respect of pretty much every OSU fan I know. You should learn respect.

Respect OSU?? Bwhaahahahahahahahahaha
Nobody respects football factories that cheat.
OSU is the least respectable program out there.
Your God dam QB shouldn't even be playing for one thing. Your QB who heard a rumour about a bad word said about him cries to gain eligibility. It's a joke.

 

[map-#1]

Ohio State is the best team money can buy. They are not compelled to play by NCAA rules. They are only in Columbus killing the 3-year time clock from high school to the NFL.

Get a grip pal.

 

[map-#1]

If you have some sort of evidence that OSU admin, boosters or alums are paying for football players, I'd suggest (actually implore) you to submit that evidence to the NCAA. If not, perhaps you should quit whining and trying to make excuses for PSU not having a program of equality, although PSU is on the right track and have garnered respect of pretty much every OSU fan I know. You should learn respect.

Absolutely! Until then these clowns need to stop the crying and let the players play. Excuses excuses excuses... reality check coming Saturday

 

[Ranger Dan]

Any given Saturday.... we’ve been here before.

Agreed, and the talent gap is far less than before

 

[nittany119]

Number one, who are you to come here and tell anyone how to act? GFY.

Number two, we all saw 2014. I don't respect osu, I fear osu because you're a bunch of god damned cheaters. Why is your QB not sitting a year? Why is he eligible now?

Don't bother answering because I don't care what you think.

Just remember, they ain’t here to play school. Talk about a sentence speaking volumes.

 

[MJG-90]

And just to make sure that those unbelievers who think it was a one time event, check out this headline and article from the Washington Post back in 1978, when I was a sophomore at Penn State and a game I remember very well.

Penn State Romps, 19-0 over #6 Ohio State

The Washington Post
By David DuPree.
September 17, 1978, Columbus Ohio

Ohio State put its new air-oriented offense on display yesterday, and Penn State brought it crashing back to earth.

The score was 19-0 and Ohio State was fortunate, it was that close.

Coach Woody Hayes had closed his preseason practices, and yesterday he unveiled a new, wide-open passing offense featuring freshman quarterback Art Schlicher. The offensive strategy marked a wide departure from the Buckeyes' usual crunching ground game.
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I remember this game. It's funny the way OSU's offense was described in this article. Wide-open passing meant 175 pass attempts in 12 games and just over 100 yards per game through the air.

Three years later, in Art's senior year, that all doubled though.

 

[psuro]

It’s possible but not probable.

 

[Howie'81]

And just to make sure that those unbelievers who think it was a one time event, check out this headline and article from the Washington Post back in 1978, when I was a sophomore at Penn State and a game I remember very well.

Penn State Romps, 19-0 over #6 Ohio State

The Washington Post
By David DuPree.
September 17, 1978, Columbus Ohio

Ohio State put its new air-oriented offense on display yesterday, and Penn State brought it crashing back to earth.

The score was 19-0 and Ohio State was fortunate, it was that close.

Coach Woody Hayes had closed his preseason practices, and yesterday he unveiled a new, wide-open passing offense featuring freshman quarterback Art Schlicher. The offensive strategy marked a wide departure from the Buckeyes' usual crunching ground game.

The philosophy fizzed as Penn State intercepted five of Schlichter's passes and made him fumble away the ball another time. Ohio State turned the ball over eight times while Penn State had only one giveaway.

"We never felt they could move the ball on us and I never thought we were in any danger," said Penn State Coach Joe Paterno.

He added he was not surprised by Ohio State's passing.

"They weren't going to run on us. I knew that," Paterno said, "(Matt) Millen and (Bruce) Clark are two of the best defensive linemen in the country and this is our strongest defense physically since 1969."

Matt Suhey scored on a three-yard run in the third quarter and Matt Bahr kicked four field goals and an extra point to account for the scoring.

The best chance Ohio State had at scoring was in the game's final minute against Penn State's second team. The Buckeyes had a first down and goal at the three and in four downs lost two yards.

It was that kind of game for Ohio State.

This was the fist shutout of Ohio State since Michigan did the trick in 1976. The Buckeyes now have lost three games in a row, including the final two last season.

Penn State had looked mediocre in earlier victories over Temple and Rutgers and after the first half ended with the visitors nursing a 3-0 lead yesterday, it didn't appear the Nittnay Lions had improved much.


Ohio State had outgained them by 100 yards in the first half and it was the four turnovers in eight possessions that kept the Buckeyes from scoring.

Chuck Fusina, Penn State's all-American candidate at quarterback, was only six of 14 passing for 65 yards that half. Then, early in the third quarter, Fusina got sacked for the fifth and what turned out to be the last time. On the next play he threw his only interception and Penn State's only turnover of the game.

On Penn State's next series, however, the Nittany Lions flexed their muscles and drove 80 yards in 13 plays on a six-minute drive. Fusina threw only one pass on that series and alternated running backs Suhey and Mike Guman on drives over tackle the other 12 plays. Sukey's three-yard touchdown run and Bahr's coversion gave Penn State a 10-0 lead.

After that drive it seemed Penn State was convinced it could out muscle the Buckeyes.

Suhey carried eight times for 41 yards and Guman four for 19 on the touchdown drive.

"Our kids came in at halftime and said they thought they could run on them," Paterno said. "So I said, "Why not'"

Ohio State got desperate after that and Schlichter, who ended the day completing 12 of 26 passes for 182 yards, went four for 10 and threw three interceptions in the fourth quarter before being relieved.

Bahr turned each of Schlichter's fourth-period interceptions into field goals. He now has kicked nine of 11 in only three games, and this was the second straight game in which he has kicked four.

"This was about as bad an opener as we have ever played," Hayes said. "There were just too many turnovers. Penn State's defense had a lot to do with that, but some of our trouble was of our own making."


Though he kept it a secret, Hayes said he decided last week to start Schlichter ahead of two-year starter and All-Big Ten quarterback Rod Gerald. He said the decision was made partly because Gerald had has been slowed by a leg injury much of the preseason.

"We will stay with Schlichter, but we will also use Rod," Hayes added.

Ohio State's passing attack was plagued by the same ailment that afflicted its running game for so many years - predictability. The Buckeyes passed in all the obvious passing situations and ran on the obvious running downs.It's attack may have been wide open, but it was not very imaginative.

Ohio State was backed up on its 11-and eight-yard lines, for instance, Hayes put Gerald at quarterback and the Buckeyes staged on the ground. Once there was good field position, Hayes returned to Schlichter.

"We thought we could throw on them because they lost most of their secondary from last year," Hayes said. "But they were much better in that area than we expected.

"What we have to do now is go back and establish a running game to go along with our passing." After a pause, Hayes added, "I never thought I'd be saying that."

That was my sophomore year as well.

 

[GulfCoastLion]

Didn’t attend the game in Columbus, but was home in Pittsburgh for some reason that weekend and was golfing with a buddy of mine early in the fall. Actually listened to it on KDKA radio, which carried the Penn State games back then. I’m not sure why I didn’t watch it on TV, since I’m assuming it was televised, with #5 vs #6 in the country. In any case, I remember Ray Scott and Fran Fischer calling the game in the car and on my transistor radio as we were golfing. Great memories and a big, convincing win at Horseshoe, along with setting up a special season, ultimately playing for the national title against Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.

 

[PearlSUJam]

Nah, there would a new OC to hate on. I wonder if Fields and his family ever raised their concerns re Moorhead to CJF? Or if that was just a convenient excuse.

 

[map-#1]

Ohio State is the best team money can buy. They are not compelled to play by NCAA rules. They are only in Columbus killing the 3-year time clock from high school to the NFL.

If you have some sort of evidence that OSU admin, boosters or alums are paying for football players, I'd suggest (actually implore) you to submit that evidence to the NCAA. If not, perhaps you should quit whining and trying to make excuses for PSU not having a program of equality, although PSU is on the right track and have garnered respect of pretty much every OSU fan I know. You should learn respect.

Amen