For those unhappy with Franklin

[YYZ86]

The joke in recent years has been Harbaugh’s results of finishing 3rd or worse in the East. Or never getting to Indy. He was hurt by poor QB play. Now QB is much improved and so is Michigan last two years. Amazing how their OLs and running game improved when they had better signal callers.
There are always exceptions but the rule is great teams usually have elite QB play. Clemson for example while still winning in weak ACC is not the same without a Lawrence or Watson. PSU has not been able to recruit that level of QB under Franklin. Game manager types are harder to win with today especially against elite competition. Is Allar that kind of talent? Hope so. Franklin won’t get over the hump until that happens.

 

[john4psu]

This is JF's moment to shock the world and hush the haters. It happens every week where theres an unexpected upset, so why not us (like we say every year). I'm very disappointed in his record against Top 5 teams and lets not even discuss how poor it is after a bye.

If he's going to be here a while, he needs to improve the focus on better and stronger lines, better schemes, less predictive playcalling, and to stop being a doormat for seemingly every ranked team. The path to the playoffs is not going to be any easier with the addition of USC and UCLA in the same conference, even with playoff expansion. Its time to do a little less "loving the players up" and focus on more smashmouth football. Its not that these guys arent tough, its that they dont seem to be able to execute the upset of the better on paper teams.

How many coaches have a good record against top 5 teams? There's a good reason those teams are in the top 5.

 

[john4psu]

I get being disappointed with the record vs Ohio State and Michigan. But, I’m in a different place. I would take 10-2 EVERY YEAR! and every once in a while winning a Big Ten title. We have a different model than Alabama, Ohio State etc. We have 31 sports not 15. We push for a 90% graduation rate. You get the idea. That being said, we should NEVER lose to IU or NW or any school where we have better talent. Period.

Yes but even Ohio State loses to a Purdue now and then. Those kids are on scholarship too. Upsets happen. That's the beauty of sports.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Yes but even Ohio State loses to a Purdue now and then. Those kids are on scholarship too. Upsets happen. That's the beauty of sports.

Not on a regular basis. Since 2020 we've lost to Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Nebraska, Iowa twice, MSU twice, Mich twice and OSU twice, in Big Ten play. OSU has only lost to Michigan once in that span. So whats your point exactly?

 

[Noffinater]

Don't understand the hate, are you Paterno leftovers, or some other reason. By the way I was at PSU during the Rip Engle years. Georgia, Alabama, OSU are football institutions, don't know much about academics, Michigan is a good academic school, but not top tier football every year.

Georgia and Ohio State are tied at #49. Penn State is #77 tied with Michigan State, Baylor and others.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

 

[MikeDerukey]

I demonstrating to you that my client's performance is better than the performance for some other high profile people in his profession.

Further, the schools that have hired the people on my list regret their hires and wish they had stuck with their previous coaches who were doing a better job for less money.

None of that matters to people who have totally unreasonable expectations for our program. Look at a program like A&M. They have out recruited PSU over the last few years and have a coach who won a national championship. He is given far more resources than pretty much any program in the country and they simply are not a good team right now.

This isn't the 80's or 90's. It's a completely different game now. People have the wrong perception of PSU as a football program. If Franklin leaves people are going to be real disappointed when the next guy doesn't do any better.

 

[PSU2UNC]

What you can’t do is reward poor seasons and a bad record against the top teams

Just to be clear are the "poor seasons" you are referring to:

a) 2014 and 2015, when the team was still heavily affected by sanctions?
b) 2020, which was a covid year, that IMHO you cannot evaluate anything base on
c) 2021, where their start QB was seriously injured in game 6 but they still went to a major bowl game?

In terms of record against top teams, please point to me to which coaches have a winning record against top teams (hint: it's a short list)

 

[KCLion]

The joke in recent years has been Harbaugh’s results of finishing 3rd or worse in the East. Or never getting to Indy. He was hurt by poor QB play. Now QB is much improved and so is Michigan last two years. Amazing how their OLs and running game improved when they had better signal callers.
There are always exceptions but the rule is great teams usually have elite QB play. Clemson for example while still winning in weak ACC is not the same without a Lawrence or Watson. PSU has not been able to recruit that level of QB under Franklin. Game manager types are harder to win with today especially against elite competition. Is Allar that kind of talent? Hope so. Franklin won’t get over the hump until that happens.

Stetson?

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Just to be clear are the "poor seasons" you are referring to:

a) 2014 and 2015, when the team was still heavily affected by sanctions?
b) 2020, which was a covid year, that IMHO you cannot evaluate anything base on
c) 2021, where their start QB was seriously injured in game 6 but they still went to a major bowl game?

In terms of record against top teams, please point to me to which coaches have a winning record against top teams (hint: it's a short list)

Yes just excuse every year lololol

 

[PSUSignore]

That being said, we should NEVER lose to IU or NW or any school where we have better talent. Period.

So are you firing Day or Saban if they lose one game? Because they are more talented than every team they play against, except each other, yet they still don't go undefeated every season.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

So are you firing Day or Saban if they lose one game? Because they are more talented than every team they play against, except each other, yet they still don't go undefeated every season.

Saban or Day would never lose to a bottom feeder...

 

[PSUSignore]

Saban or Day would never lose to a bottom feeder...

Purdue is one of the teams to beat OSU during their dynasty run. Before Day, but the point is the same. Should have fired Meyer I suppose.

People here have expectations based on the 80s and 90s and are applying them to a completely different era of CFB. There is less parity today and a gap exists between the handful of top programs and everyone else. CFB is dominated by 3-4 programs right now and everyone is looking up at them, including PSU. Expecting PSU to be at that level when PSU isn't in the same ballpark in terms of many factors... funding, boosters, prime recruiting location, AD support, university support, facilities, etc. Firing the head coach isn't going to change this, it's just going to lead to firing another coach in 3-4 years when they have the same obstacles that they also aren't able to consistently overcome.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Purdue is one of the teams to beat OSU during their dynasty run. Before Day, but the point is the same. Should have fired Meyer I suppose.

People here have expectations based on the 80s and 90s and are applying them to a completely different era of CFB. There is less parity today and a gap exists between the handful of top programs and everyone else. CFB is dominated by 3-4 programs right now and everyone is looking up at them, including PSU. Expecting PSU to be at that level when PSU isn't in the same ballpark in terms of many factors... funding, boosters, prime recruiting location, AD support, university support, facilities, etc. Firing the head coach isn't going to change this, it's just going to lead to firing another coach in 3-4 years when they have the same obstacles that they also aren't able to consistently overcome.

Purdue wasnt a bottom feeder

 

[Jerry]

The joke in recent years has been Harbaugh’s results of finishing 3rd or worse in the East. Or never getting to Indy. He was hurt by poor QB play. Now QB is much improved and so is Michigan last two years. Amazing how their OLs and running game improved when they had better signal callers.
There are always exceptions but the rule is great teams usually have elite QB play. Clemson for example while still winning in weak ACC is not the same without a Lawrence or Watson. PSU has not been able to recruit that level of QB under Franklin. Game manager types are harder to win with today especially against elite competition. Is Allar that kind of talent? Hope so. Franklin won’t get over the hump until that happens.

People forget that Harbaugh was taking a whole lot of heat for Michigan's drop-off in recent years and inability to maintain competitiveness with Ohio State. He was seen as underachieving relative to the talent he had recruited and underperforming relative to the expectations that surrounded his hire.

Then came last year with the conference championship, breakthrough against Ohio State, and playoff berth. All Jim's sins were forgotten and forgiven.

The narrative changes quickly, sometimes overnight, in today's media-saturated environment. If Penn State shocks the Bucks this Saturday, you'll see the same thing happen. Pretty big if though.

 

[YYZ86]

People forget that Harbaugh was taking a whole lot of heat for Michigan's drop-off in recent years and inability to maintain competitiveness with Ohio State. He was seen as underachieving relative to the talent he had recruited and underperforming relative to the expectations that surrounded his hire.

Then came last year with the conference championship, breakthrough against Ohio State, and playoff berth. All Jim's sins were forgotten and forgiven.

The narrative changes quickly, sometimes overnight, in today's media-saturated environment. If Penn State shocks the Bucks this Saturday, you'll see the same thing happen. Pretty big if though.

I agree. I would like to see what would have happened at PSU if Justin Fields signed with PSU.

 

[PSUSignore]

Purdue wasnt a bottom feeder

Well I initially responded to a poster referencing never losing to a team with lesser talent. For OSU, that's everyone in the Big 10, and OSU has lost 5 conference games total in recent years, so fire Urban/Day. Some of our "fans" have expectations that are so ridiculous it's laughable. Those fans would be better served rooting for OSU or Bama because PSU isn't going to be at that level for the foreseeable future.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Well I initially responded to a poster referencing never losing to a team with lesser talent. For OSU, that's everyone in the Big 10, and OSU has lost 5 conference games total in recent years, so fire Urban/Day. Some of our "fans" have expectations that are so ridiculous it's laughable. Those fans would be better served rooting for OSU or Bama because PSU isn't going to be at that level for the foreseeable future.

Obviously anyone can lose a game here and there. We have lost half of our games the past 2 seasons.

 

[PSU2UNC]

Yes just excuse every year lololol

Legitimate reasons and excuses are not necessarily the same thing.

 

[ShoreLion85]

Purdue is one of the teams to beat OSU during their dynasty run. Before Day, but the point is the same. Should have fired Meyer I suppose.

People here have expectations based on the 80s and 90s and are applying them to a completely different era of CFB. There is less parity today and a gap exists between the handful of top programs and everyone else. CFB is dominated by 3-4 programs right now and everyone is looking up at them, including PSU. Expecting PSU to be at that level when PSU isn't in the same ballpark in terms of many factors... funding, boosters, prime recruiting location, AD support, university support, facilities, etc. Firing the head coach isn't going to change this, it's just going to lead to firing another coach in 3-4 years when they have the same obstacles that they also aren't able to consistently overcome.

Then make changes (not Firings - changes). Solicit more funds, re-allocate existing funds to improve the infrastructure of the football program. Make a better effort with the boosters, or change the approach to soliciting funds. Increase the recruiting budget to expand our recruiting footprint. Have PSU powerbrokers meet with the new AD and state unequivocally that PSU needs to do whatever it takes to do what is necessary to become an elite program - and that might mean cutting minor sports funding) fencing, mens tennis, mens golf, etc.), and it will mean a new focus. Upgrade the facilities, rather than being satisfied with the status quo. Mr. Pegula’s phone number should be on speed dial - outreach to wealthy PSU alums in a new way, if possible.

in other words, DO something differently in order to get better results. Change is clearly required - new AD, get to it.

 

[PSUSignore]

Then make changes (not Firings - changes). Solicit more funds, re-allocate existing funds to improve the infrastructure of the football program. Make a better effort with the boosters, or change the approach to soliciting funds. Increase the recruiting budget to expand our recruiting footprint. Have PSU powerbrokers meet with the new AD and state unequivocally that PSU needs to do whatever it takes to do what is necessary to become an elite program - and that might mean cutting minor sports funding) fencing, mens tennis, mens golf, etc.), and it will mean a new focus. Upgrade the facilities, rather than being satisfied with the status quo. Mr. Pegula’s phone number should be on speed dial - outreach to wealthy PSU alums in a new way, if possible.

in other words, DO something differently in order to get better results. Change is clearly required - new AD, get to it.

What do you think Franklin has been trying to do? He's been dragging the AD into the modern era, using his contract negotiations as leverage to make improvements. He's gotten more money for assistant coaches, is driving some facility conversations and investments, gave input on the new AD hiring process, etc. Historically PSU did more with less, that doesn't work anymore for sustained success and Franklin had been advocating for many of these changes for years.

 

[ShoreLion85]

You’re correct - he’s certainly trying - a bit ham-fisted to use the contract issue, but you fight with the weapons you have. I understand that in a sport as complicated as football, with 105 athletes, major logistical issues, etc. that wins are a lagging indicator of program improvement. But we do need to start seeing them, and soon.

Just remember: the trip from “Blue Blood” to “has been” is no where near as long as it used to be. I hope our new AD grasps this concept.

 

[bmejnes]

I am not the biggest fan of Franklin but he has been great for the program as a whole. When the playoffs move to 12 teams, I would expect to be in them once every 2-3 years. He has had several years in his tenure that we would have been top 12. AL, GA, OSU are just on another level!

 

[ShoreLion85]

I am not the biggest fan of Franklin but he has been great for the program as a whole. When the playoffs move to 12 teams, I would expect to be in them once every 2-3 years. He has had several years in his tenure that we would have been top 12. AL, GA, OSU are just on another level!

Then we need to find out WHY they are on that other level, and make the necessary adjustments to ascend to that level, right? If they can do it, why can’t we? And if they are doing something that for whatever reason (usually a specious one) we cannot, then come out and state so clearly, then Nittany Nation can calibrate our expectations accordingly. Give us the facts! Why are their programs so good, and ours isn’t? What is within the realm of the possible for us to implement to at least approach their level? What aren’t we willing to do? We have got to move beyond our comfort zone and adapt.

Otherwise: Blue Blood becomes Has-Been. And rather quickly these days…

 

[bmejnes]

Then we need to find out WHY they are on that other level, and make the necessary adjustments to ascend to that level, right? If they can do it, why can’t we? And if they are doing something that for whatever reason (usually a specious one) we cannot, then come out and state so clearly, then Nittany Nation can calibrate our expectations accordingly. Give us the facts! Why are their programs so good, and ours isn’t? What is within the realm of the possible for us to implement to at least approach their level? What aren’t we willing to do? We have got to move beyond our comfort zone and adapt.

Otherwise: Blue Blood becomes Has-Been. And rather quickly these days…

One of the main reasons is academics. None of those schools give a rats ass about academics! Which has been known for years. Stud recruits know this and it matters to them when making a decision on where they want to go and get ready for the NFL. Maybe people over think these things, but it's pretty simple. All the 5 star BB players don't go to KY for the great degrees, same as FB and the previous mentioned schools.

 

[crm114psu]

Then we need to find out WHY they are on that other level, and make the necessary adjustments to ascend to that level, right? If they can do it, why can’t we? And if they are doing something that for whatever reason (usually a specious one) we cannot, then come out and state so clearly, then Nittany Nation can calibrate our expectations accordingly. Give us the facts! Why are their programs so good, and ours isn’t? What is within the realm of the possible for us to implement to at least approach their level? What aren’t we willing to do? We have got to move beyond our comfort zone and adapt.

Otherwise: Blue Blood becomes Has-Been. And rather quickly these days…

It is no mystery why they are on that level. They have focus and buy-in at every level of their program which allows them to achieve their goal. That does not exist at PSU and has not for the last 30 years. PSU has not even figured out what the goal is. Until that happens, you get what you get.

 

[PSU2UNC]

It is no mystery why they are on that level. They have focus and buy-in at every level of their program which allows them to achieve their goal. That does not exist at PSU and has not for the last 30 years. PSU has not even figured out what the goal is. Until that happens, you get what you get.

This is corporate speak nonsense. The goal is to win as many games as possible per year.

Buy in is something that occurs at an individual level. You cannot make someone buy in.

 

[ShoreLion85]

One of the main reasons is academics. None of those schools give a rats ass about academics! Which has been known for years. Stud recruits know this and it matters to them when making a decision on where they want to go and get ready for the NFL. Maybe people over think these things, but it's pretty simple. All the 5 star BB players don't go to KY for the great degrees, same as FB and the previous mentioned schools.

How much does PSU care about academics for football players? How much should PSU care about academics for football players? What is the actual difference between PSU, OSU, and UM regarding admission, eligibility standards, academic progress, etc.? It’s been my take for decades that “graduation rates” are both a manipulated statistic (get several practice-fodder players with high grade point averages, add to GPA and grad rate stats, for example) and a convenient excuse for lousy on-field results. In all honesty, I couldn’t care less if a football player, or any other student, graduates. That’s on them - give them the opportunity, and what they do with it is their business.

If player X intercepts the OSU QB to win the game for PSU, is anyone going to care what his major is? What his GPA is? If he’s on track to graduate? This is business, and the business is winning football games. If player X is also a scholar and will graduate with a 4.0 in Engineering - great for him, and congratulations! But it isn’t why those stands are filled and why 5 million people are watching the game on TV.

Times have changed - it’s beyond the time where we emphasized the Honor part to the detriment of the Success part. Let’s re-balance, and perhaps do more of what it takes to beef-up that Success half of the equation.

 

[ShoreLion85]

This is corporate speak nonsense. The goal is to win as many games as possible per year.

Buy in is something that occurs at an individual level. You cannot make someone buy in.

But you can make an example and an object lesson of someone that doesn’t buy-in. Perhaps that might encourage the others to get on-board…

 

[PSUEngineer89]

When we joined the big 10, we were arguably the best program.

Now, OSU is indisputably 1, and Michigan isn’t far from establishing themselves as a clear number 2.

So, of the big 3, we are just hanging on.

 

[PSU2UNC]

How much does PSU care about academics for football players? How much should PSU care about academics for football players? What is the actual difference between PSU, OSU, and UM regarding admission, eligibility standards, academic progress, etc.? It’s been my take for decades that “graduation rates” are both a manipulated statistic (get several practice-fodder players with high grade point averages, add to GPA and grad rate stats, for example) and a convenient excuse for lousy on-field results. In all honesty, I couldn’t care less if a football player, or any other student, graduates. That’s on them - give them the opportunity, and what they do with it is their business.

If player X intercepts the OSU QB to win the game for PSU, is anyone going to care what his major is? What his GPA is? If he’s on track to graduate? This is business, and the business is winning football games. If player X is also a scholar and will graduate with a 4.0 in Engineering - great for him, and congratulations! But it isn’t why those stands are filled and why 5 million people are watching the game on TV.

Times have changed - it’s beyond the time where we emphasized the Honor part to the detriment of the Success part. Let’s re-balance, and perhaps do more of what it takes to beef-up that Success half of the equation.

They should care. Whether or not they do is another matter.

You seem to want to de-emphasize academics. I strongly disagree with that idea.

 

[PSU2UNC]

But you can make an example and an object lesson of someone that doesn’t buy-in. Perhaps that might encourage the others to get on-board…

I'm quite confident that this is done.

 

[crm114psu]

What is the goal? Awarding a 10 year @ $8M per contract midway through a 2nd 5-loss season indicates to me that the goal isn't to win as many games as possible. It tells me that the higher ups are just fine with 5-loss seasons. They must be focusing more on those "intangibles".

As a result, we are locked into a coach because he is a "good ambassador" for the program. Wins obviously aren't the priority.

Many fans share this view. Some will refuse to consider anyone that does not bow and pray to Paterno 5 times a day. Good luck with that.

There is a lack of focus because the program is influenced by too many mutually exclusive goals.

Until that changes from the top down, we will continue to get what we have now, or worse.

 

[PSU2UNC]

What is the goal? Awarding a 10 year @ $8M per contract midway through a 2nd 5-loss season indicates to me that the goal isn't to win as many games as possible. It tells me that the higher ups are just fine with 5-loss seasons. They must be focusing more on those "intangibles".

As a result, we are locked into a coach because he is a "good ambassador" for the program. Wins obviously aren't the priority.

Many fans share this view. Some will refuse to consider anyone that does not bow and pray to Paterno 5 times a day. Good luck with that.

There is a lack of focus because the program is influenced by too many mutually exclusive goals.

Until that changes from the top down, we will continue to get what we have now, or worse.

I can't disagree with what you wrote more. But I disagree with you on many (most?) things so this is not surprising.

 

[ryoder1]

Georgia and Ohio State are tied at #49. Penn State is #77 tied with Michigan State, Baylor and others.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Do you really think GA and O$U are 30 spots better in academics? Forget this ranking and just think about that. So a UGA business degree carries more weight in the Northeast than a PSU business degree? Give me a break. More importantly, is an employer going to fall all over themselves to hire an O$U grad or Georgia grad like it is an Ivy while thinking PSU is a significantly less prestigious school? After you get past the top 20 maybe 30 it does not matter.

 

[PSU2UNC]

Do you really think GA and O$U are 30 spots better in academics? Forget this ranking and just think about that. So a UGA business degree carries more weight in the Northeast than a PSU business degree? Give me a break. More importantly, is an employer going to fall all over themselves to hire an O$U grad or Georgia grad like it is an Ivy while thinking PSU is a significantly less prestigious school? After you get past the top 20 maybe 30 it does not matter.

The US News ratings use a variety of metrics that have nothing to do with academic rigor/quality (like affordability, which PSU doesn't exactly excel at). There are other lists where PSU is much higher. As a former academic, I will tell you that PSU is better regarded in most fields than all SEC schools except for Vandy.

OSU used to be a pretty crappy school, but is actually pretty decent now.

 

[PSUSignore]

You’re correct - he’s certainly trying - a bit ham-fisted to use the contract issue, but you fight with the weapons you have.

I would argue he's not only trying, he's been successful, just in small iterations and it is taking more time than fans want to see. Fans want it to happen overnight but Franklin isn't going to be successful if he asks for a billion dollar investment at once. He's chipping away at the problems little by little to help get us there. PSU was spoiled by the success under Paterno, but in a way that success likely also holds us back because long term leaders at the university probably want to replicate that success on a budget because Paterno was able to do it. The sport is different today. It takes massive commitments to maintain the success that OSU, Bama, Georgia, Clemson are having, and even more to make the leap from where PSU is now to get to that level. Those programs are all aligned on investments and commitments to football through every aspect of the university from board leadership, academic leaders and athletic leaders. Franklin is helping to get us there bit by bit. It can certainly be frustrating to see repeated contract discussions, but each one comes with more investment into the program and those things will help PSU long term regardless if Franklin is here or not. I personally view Franklin as a very important coach in terms of transitioning PSU out of the old and into the new era, but it's a slow process and is very much a work in progress. If he stays long term I think we will ultimately view him quite favorably. In the meantime he largely fields teams of good character players that we can be proud of both on and off the field, generally does things the right way, and has been competitive in game results for the most part. The big question is how much patience Franklin will have if other schools offer to invest more resources or move more quickly than PSU is willing to. He wants to win a title and if he starts to feel that PSU is hindering that goal or moving too slowly, he's going to leave for a program with fewer obstacles, but I think he really wants to achieve that goal at PSU.

 

[Noffinater]

Do you really think GA and O$U are 30 spots better in academics? Forget this ranking and just think about that. So a UGA business degree carries more weight in the Northeast than a PSU business degree? Give me a break. More importantly, is an employer going to fall all over themselves to hire an O$U grad or Georgia grad like it is an Ivy while thinking PSU is a significantly less prestigious school? After you get past the top 20 maybe 30 it does not matter.

They’re probably very similar. The only people who seem to think PSU is a significantly better school than the “football factories” (of which PSU is NOT, of course) are PSU alums.

 

[Noffinater]

The US News ratings use a variety of metrics that have nothing to do with academic rigor/quality (like affordability, which PSU doesn't exactly excel at). There are other lists where PSU is much higher. As a former academic, I will tell you that PSU is better regarded in most fields than all SEC schools except for Vandy.

OSU used to be a pretty crappy school, but is actually pretty decent now.

They’re pretty transparent about their methodology. It’s based on academics. Their Top 3 are Princeton, MIT, Harvard. So I don’t think affordability is weighted very high.

You can read more here if you’re interested:

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings

 

[PSU2UNC]

They’re pretty transparent about their methodology. It’s based on academics. Their Top 3 are Princeton, MIT, Harvard. So I don’t think affordability is weighted very high.

You can read more here if you’re interested:

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings

I would argue that most them are not related to academics. They deem smaller class sizes to be a good thing, but IMHO that has no bearing on academic rank. They deem social mobility as a factor as well. That's certainly a good thing, but has no bearing on academic rank.

 

[LMTLION]

Then make changes (not Firings - changes). Solicit more funds, re-allocate existing funds to improve the infrastructure of the football program. Make a better effort with the boosters, or change the approach to soliciting funds. Increase the recruiting budget to expand our recruiting footprint. Have PSU powerbrokers meet with the new AD and state unequivocally that PSU needs to do whatever it takes to do what is necessary to become an elite program - and that might mean cutting minor sports funding) fencing, mens tennis, mens golf, etc.), and it will mean a new focus. Upgrade the facilities, rather than being satisfied with the status quo. Mr. Pegula’s phone number should be on speed dial - outreach to wealthy PSU alums in a new way, if possible.

in other words, DO something differently in order to get better results. Change is clearly required - new AD, get to it.

Wtf do you think has been happening? Franklin has been moving mountains in that regard.