I’m talking about everyone who wants to blame people for not wearing masks. Fit them with an N95 so they feel nice and safe.
FC: “N.J. restaurants NOT reopening for indoor dining this week after ‘knucklehead’ crowds...
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Get out in the world and see what’s happening....your 6 feet away ain’t happening everywhere, as much as you want it to be. But you keep pushing it. And I have plenty to talk to without wasting my time with a snowflake like you....off to ignore with you.
Can’t believe the conspiracy runs this deep.
https://physician-news.umiamihealth...ce-masks-can-reduce-covid-19-mortality-rates/
https://physician-news.umiamihealth...ce-masks-can-reduce-covid-19-mortality-rates/
Of course it’s not happening everywhere! We’re in a thread discussing idiots who weren’t maintaining social distancing, and weren’t wearing masks and, they contributed to a state pausing its reopening. Not only that, but some states are at different points in their reopening strategy. Oy.
You going to tell us you took this right from Facebook, or do you want us to think you wrote it? Lol!!!
There is a reason why he never provides links, because he goes to the far right sh!tter to pull stuff up. Oh you're OSHA certified....well that means you can stand up scaffolding and took a 10 hour safety course. Yeah...that is who you should be listening too when it comes to medical advice. Honestly what moron sees that credential and says.....well this guy knows his shit over someone who actually studies infectious diseases. The morons saying don't wear masks are just that....morons. Yes they aren't a 100% guarantee, but the countries that do it and take it seriously are way better off than ours because they aren't listening Bob the builder for medical advice. OSHA....holy dumb f--ks all of dumb f--ks. When I used to do shipboard installations for servers on Naval ships I had to be Osha certified. I had to wear a hard hat, steel toe boots, and PPE for my eyes.....guess that makes me an expert too.
Don't know about the "sketchy" part. States require labs to be licensed. Would imagine that any lab without a license isn't reporting its results to the state.
its right on the label. Now, the masks do provide some marginal protections IMHO. But it is kind of like ADT Security on your front door or TSA security. Its probably more about feeling safe than actually being safe. It probably also helps if you sneeze or cough, a bit. Finally, I heard one doc say that it keeps the wearer from putting their fingers in their nose (ewh) or mouth; two of the three entry portals for the virus.
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When the first case of person-to-person transmission was reported in the US on January 30, the CDC said it didn’t recommend the public use of face masks. US officials were focused on securing masks for health care workers. But in the process, they made contradictory and premature statements that masks were not effective for the public.
https://www.vox.com/2020/5/29/21273625/coronavirus-masks-required-virginia-china-hong-kong
I didn’t see if your question was answered but I just got a COVID Test since they were free in Chester County. They DO NOT tell if you have antibodies or were exposed previously to the virus, they just detect active infections. I was negative but what I wanted was a test to see if you had been previously exposed but that is a different test. You will need to make sure you get the right one. I didn’t know until I asked when I was there. Yeah and it’s real fun when they scratch you brain with that swab. I have even more respect for health care workers who are almost continuously getting this test.
I saw it a week ago, but only you pretended you wrote it. LOL. By the way it is total bullshit.
What does an a massive amount of increase in COVID-19 have to do with people dying in the streets they just mandated at 3 o’clock today that everywhere you go now you have to have a mask on Horry and Georgetown County’s there is so many people here on vacation it’s ridiculous
That’s what’s happening to us right now and Pawleys Island there’s so many people here from out of the area that the locals are afraid to even go out
So...no people dying in the streets? You said your city was on fire w/ covid. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just hyperbole because of more testing (more results). I guess it was after all.
I’m sure it is because of more testing I said Covid it is on fire is spreading like crazy down here no one said about anyone dying in the streets that something you made up in your head a lot of our businesses are now being forced to shut down If any of their employees get COVID-19 for 14 days
Really hard to believe after all this time that someone with a college education is still so dim as to think that the mask is for the wearer's protection. I must have heard 100 times in 100 different ways that the purpose of the mask is to keep the WEARER from passing the disease to others.its right on the label. Now, the masks do provide some marginal protections IMHO. But it is kind of like ADT Security on your front door or TSA security. Its probably more about feeling safe than actually being safe. It probably also helps if you sneeze or cough, a bit. Finally, I heard one doc say that it keeps the wearer from putting their fingers in their nose (ewh) or mouth; two of the three entry portals for the virus.
These young 20 somethings that are gathering like this are just play stupid. I wish they wouldn’t. But I’ve said this before, I was just as stupid when I was their age. I almost surely would have been doing this and people my age (I’m 39) would have thought me to be a moron. And they would have been right.
We all would have been doing it (except for the nerds who never went out anyhow).
You lose all credibility when you say cloth mask capture carbon dioxide. If you are OSHA certified that certification should be pulled immediately. The size of the carbon dioxide molecule is 236 pm. If a cloth mask traps that as you claim wouldn’t it also capture the corona virus that is 60,000-140,000 pm? Just think about the stupidity of your claim.
I think of the mask issue like this: Imagine hitting a golf ball into a net designed for baseball. The net will stop some shots, slow down some shots, and let other shots go through with no loss in momentum.
Masks with exhaust valves, of course, are not designed to protect the environment (others) beyond perhaps a slight reduction in the velocity of a cough or sneeze. N95s offer some protection to the wearer, but not foolproof protection. Cloth (barrier) masks are like the golf ball analogy (both ways). Do they help? Yes. Are they foolproof? No.
So if you stand on the other side of the net you are less likely to get hit than you would be with no net. It comes down to an unknown probability, somewhere between zero and 100%.
There. It is settled.
Masks with exhaust valves, of course, are not designed to protect the environment (others) beyond perhaps a slight reduction in the velocity of a cough or sneeze. N95s offer some protection to the wearer, but not foolproof protection. Cloth (barrier) masks are like the golf ball analogy (both ways). Do they help? Yes. Are they foolproof? No.
So if you stand on the other side of the net you are less likely to get hit than you would be with no net. It comes down to an unknown probability, somewhere between zero and 100%.
There. It is settled.
too continue your analogy now think of the probability of that same golf ball going through not just one but two nets several feet apart with enough velocity to hurt you. The likelihood has decreased significantly and that is why it important that everyone wears a mask.
I hope the anti-mask crowd asks surgeons to remove their masks and gloves when operating.
Reading this thread gives me great concern about the Dunning-Kruger pandemic that is raging unacknowledged across certain segments of society. If only there were a vaccination and a cure . . .
If one person gets hit with a golf ball then we need to tear down all the nets since it is obviously completely useless and interferes with the freedom of people who are hitting golf balls.
It will spread. Just like in NYC. At the end the result will be the same. Few deaths outside of some very unhealthy people.
The media will latch onto the very nick cordero stories... turns out he didnt even have it when he went to the hospital... but in the end unless the governor pulls a cuomo things will be fine.
Everyone will get it. Cannot stop it. Most will never even kmow
LdN
Unless people in the street are spraying blood into other peoples faces the analogy is pretty stupid.
Yep, the folks still arguing against mask wearing should basically say...I'm entitled, selfish, and I don't give 2 sh!ts about other people....because that is what they are basically saying without words. I'm not talking about folks jogging on their own or walking in parks, but the idiots in stores or closed in areas who just talk about their freedoms being stripped....as they drive away and buckle their seat belts. Seat belts don't save lives 100% of the time either, but it's still the law. This is hopefully a temporary inconvenience and some act like they are being dragged out to give blood or something.
I wear a mask when required but your analogy is stupid - I fear the masks give people a false sense of security - there have been some pretty knowledgeable people here that have explained it in detail and if you work in IH (Industrial Hygiene) you would know the limitations - better than nothing but not much.
I think the narrative that COVID is almost entirely a disease of the old is dishonest. Certainly, older persons are at higher risk of serious illness and death. But if you look at the numbers in the US where cases are growing the fastest, the people needing hospitalization are getting significantly younger. In AZ, the largest age group of hospitalizations now is 25 - 44. FL and TX are showing similar treads in patients requiring hospital care.
Asymptomatic infection is probably around 40% from the best available data right now. But even asymptomatic individuals have been shown to sometimes develop sequelae from these infections.
