B1G No. 1
Penn State No. 66 out of 132 -- YUCK!
Penn State No. 66 out of 132 -- YUCK!
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Interesting that the B1G had 12 of the top 31. Definitely the top all-around conference when it comes to academics, athetics and especially revenue. I was surprised that MSU and OSU were that high.B1G No. 1
Penn State No. 66 out of 132 -- YUCK!
B1G No. 1
Penn State No. 66 out of 132 -- YUCK!
These are World University rankings and they rate the school as a whole. It has nothing to do with football and whether or not your players do well academically. We do things the right way.Interesting that the B1G had 12 of the top 31. Definitely the top all-around conference when it comes to academics, athetics and especially revenue. I was surprised that MSU and OSU were that high.
But let's be honest, CF has long left the academic side in its rear view mirror. It's all about money and winning now and anyone that claims otherwise is just fooling themselves. The days of fanbases claiming "we do things the right way" is comical at best
30th seems much more realistic.It's a composite of Forbes and US News & World Report rankings. It's odd, no other school has the difference between the 2 that PSU does.
Also, Pitt, PSU, and Temple all have significant gaps with Forbes' ranking being much lower. It's like something about PA has biased their ranking ??
EDIT: those 3 are all State-Affiliated universities that have complained about state funding. May be something to do with debt and ROI components of the ranking for forbes?
T66 Penn State
Forbes 97, US News & World Report T30
My point is that I read this on all of the major CF sites and it starts to have a hollow ring to it. PSU, Michigan ND, OSU.....and on and on .....all recruit the same HS kids and go after the same kids in the Portal. You hardly ever hear the education BS "first" come into play any more with all CF powers. It's all about winning - AT ALL SCHOOLS.These are World University rankings and they rate the school as a whole. It has nothing to do with football and whether or not your players do well academically. We do things the right way.
College Football is a business, who really cares about graduation rates or such things as learning . How much money can I make before I am done with my eligibility.B1G No. 1
Penn State No. 66 out of 132 -- YUCK!
Yep, not that hard to figure out anymore. It's not the 1960s to 1990s when fan bases use to throw the "education" BS when things weren't going well on the field of play. It's all about MONEY - plain and simpleCollege Football is a business, who really cares about graduation rates or such things as learning . How much money can I make before I am done with my eligibility.
Seems not to measure athletes academic performance. Looks like a beauty show based on a lot of subjectivity.B1G No. 1
Penn State No. 66 out of 132 -- YUCK!
It's a composite of Forbes and US News & World Report rankings. It's odd, no other school has the difference between the 2 that PSU does.
Also, Pitt, PSU, and Temple all have significant gaps with Forbes' ranking being much lower. It's like something about PA has biased their ranking ??
EDIT: those 3 are all State-Affiliated universities that have complained about state funding. May be something to do with debt and ROI components of the ranking for forbes?
T66 Penn State
Forbes 97, US News & World Report T30
So, that is what I noticed as well. I wonder what the metrics are for Forbes in how they calculate. And how PSU fairs so badly with them relative to peer institutions.
Penn State tuition is absurd. State appropriations are only a small factor, but noting that the 3 schools with the biggest ratings gaps are the 3 PA State-affiliated universities (Pitt, Temple, PSU), it would seem tied to something financially, like ROI and debt...just a guess without doing a deep dive on the data.
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PSU spent like drunken sailors for 50 years. All of the unnecessary buildings have to be maintained and depreciated. POLICY CHANGEPenn State tuition is absurd. State appropriations are only a small factor, but noting that the 3 schools with the biggest ratings gaps are the 3 PA State-affiliated universities (Pitt, Temple, PSU), it would seem tied to something financially, like ROI and debt...just a guess without doing a deep dive on the data.