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Wouldn't most schools be good if they didn't have low income,special education programs,troubled or mentally/physically handicap students?
You're right when you're talking about academics, but when it comes to sports, it creates a very un-level playing field. Public schools should not have to compete against private schools who recruit. It's extremely unfair for the players, coaches and fans of those public schools.And your point is? That kids should remain in inferior schools because not everyone opportunity to escape them?
You're right when you're talking about academics, but when it comes to sports, it creates a very un-level playing field. Public schools should not have to compete against private schools who recruit. It's extremely unfair for the players, coaches and fans of those public schools.
A relative who lives in Illinois mentioned that catholic/private schools are required to compete athletically UP one enrollment classification. (In the state of Illinois that is)You're right when you're talking about academics, but when it comes to sports, it creates a very un-level playing field. Public schools should not have to compete against private schools who recruit. It's extremely unfair for the players, coaches and fans of those public schools.
Including the politicians who are all too happy to allow the unfair athletic situation continue because of how it benefits private (and charter) school enrollments.Private schools like to brag about their superiority when it comes to academics. I’m fine with that. In most cases, it is the truth.
Private schools like to whisper about their athletic superiority while recruiting public school athletes. (They will publicly deny that recruiting occurs. I’m not fine with that.)
Private schools will pull out their megaphones to deny superiority (and deny recruiting exists) in an effort to maintain an illusion of “equal” status at playoff time.
That’s pure BS and everyone knows it.
Apparently everything is A-OK if you have easy access to a confessional.
And your point is? That kids should remain in inferior schools because not everyone opportunity to escape them?
You’re right. How‘bout this, for every athlete that a private school gives a scholarship to they must also provide 10 scholarships to students in the district that athlete comes from that are performing poorly academically, or are at-risk behaviorally, and are from an underrepresented class or economically disadvantaged. WWJD
Why? So they can devote resources from what they do well to remediate a larger social problem? I don't think so. And, BTW, a lot of parochial schools provide tuition subsidies, to the point that some students pay zero, to families of modest means.
Most private schools don’t recruit or give scholarships. It’s not like all private schools are football factories. A vast majority of private schools are small Christian schools that get totally stomped by almost every public school they play. The handful of football factories shouldn’t ruin it for all the small private schools just trying to be competitive.You’re right. How‘bout this, for every athlete that a private school gives a scholarship to they must also provide 10 scholarships to students in the district that athlete comes from that are performing poorly academically, or are at-risk behaviorally, and are from an underrepresented class or economically disadvantaged. WWJD
Most private schools don’t recruit or give scholarships. It’s not like all private schools are football factories. A vast majority of private schools are small Christian schools that get totally stomped by almost every public school they play. The handful of football factories shouldn’t ruin it for all the small private schools just trying to be competitive.
Obviously you have never lived in Ohio. The Catholic schools because of their ability to recruit from a large territory and award “needs” based scholarships to great athletes have dominated the playoffs in just about every sport. When I was in high school the local Catholic high school was always trying to poach our best players. The Catholic schools also manipulated enrollment for male sports to achieve male enrollment numbers that meet the criteria needed to attain a lower division than a comparable sized public school with respect to total enrollment, basically gaming the system. There are no separate private school leagues in Ohio. The Ohio High School Athletic Association has tried to level the playing field for many years without success because the Catholic schools have objected to losing their decided advantage and taken their fight to the legal system, including I believe a currently ongoing suit which may end up in the Ohio Supreme Court.Most private schools don’t recruit or give scholarships. It’s not like all private schools are football factories. A vast majority of private schools are small Christian schools that get totally stomped by almost every public school they play. The handful of football factories shouldn’t ruin it for all the small private schools just trying to be competitive.
Nope, but I worked in Ohio and have lived in a few different states and I still stand by my statement...most private schools don’t recruit. Also, Catholic schools are not the only private schools....there are a ton of small Christian schools that get their asses beat against public schools. Also, many Catholic schools are small and don’t recruit either.Obviously you have never lived in Ohio. The Catholic schools because of their ability to recruit from a large territory and award “needs” based scholarships to great athletes have dominated the playoffs in just about every sport. When I was in high school the local Catholic high school was always trying to poach our best players. The Catholic schools also manipulated enrollment for male sports to achieve male enrollment numbers that meet the criteria needed to attain a lower division than a comparable sized public school with respect to total enrollment, basically gaming the system. There are no separate private school leagues in Ohio. The Ohio High School Athletic Association has tried to level the playing field for many years without success because the Catholic schools have objected to losing their decided advantage and taken their fight to the legal system, including I believe a currently ongoing suit which may end up in the Ohio Supreme Court.
Of course, some of the powerhouse public schools do some limited recruiting on their own luring top athletes to play at their school by urging them to move in with a relative who is located in their catchment area or finding their guardian/parent housing or a job that allows the athlete to go to a new school. This can happen within or outside the athlete’s district. Maurice Clarett was a good example of this. Played for Youngstown Wilson high school, then Austintown Fitch High School (suburb of Youngstown) and finally at Warren Harding in the close by city of Warren.
Was told by colleague who went to Don Bosch Prep (NJ) that the state has a private school class in their playoffs.
IMO, PA would be well served to do so.
I love St. Joseph’s Prep, but enough already. PS: the prep is a fine school academically.
While I am at it, it is a single sex school, which I am a fan of for both sexes.
... makes sense... can't invest funds oin BOTH scholarships AND teacher salaries...
Wouldn't most schools be good if they didn't have low income,special education programs,troubled or mentally/physically handicap students?
Nope, but I worked in Ohio and have lived in a few different states and I still stand by my statement...most private schools don’t recruit. Also, Catholic schools are not the only private schools....there are a ton of small Christian schools that get their asses beat against public schools. Also, many Catholic schools are small and don’t recruit either.
And your point is? That kids should remain in inferior schools because not everyone opportunity to escape them?
...tell that to Penn State's AD...
What is good? If your talking about the quality of education,
The point is it isn't the parochial schools that are good. And it definitely isn't the teaching at parochial schools is superior. Far from it and in most cases they are far inferior. If that was the case, lets switch the teachers from Catholic schools with the bad public schools and see what happens.
You're going off kilter here. I wasn't generalizing about the quality of education or teachers at all parochial schools, nor public ones for that matter.
Ok my bad. I know and am close to many teachers at inferior public schools who work to better the lives of students who have the odds stacked against them. It is hard to hear people who denigrate them. The people that do need to walk a mile in their shoes. Sorry that I assumed you were doing that.
Ok my bad. I know and am close to many teachers at inferior public schools who work to better the lives of students who have the odds stacked against them. It is hard to hear people who denigrate them. The people that do need to walk a mile in their shoes. Sorry that I assumed you were doing that.
Was told by colleague who went to Don Bosch Prep (NJ) that the state has a private school class in their playoffs.
IMO, PA would be well served to do so.
I love St. Joseph’s Prep, but enough already. PS: the prep is a fine school academically.
While I am at it, it is a single sex school, which I am a fan of for both sexes.
Why? So they can devote resources from what they do well to remediate a larger social problem? I don't think so. And, BTW, a lot of parochial schools provide tuition subsidies, to the point that some students pay zero, to families of modest means.
Wow. Did not to see a comment of that nature from you, art.
I went to a private school and it didn’t recruit. My nephew went to another private school and it didn’t recruit. As an adult, one of my best friends had two sons and a daughter that all went to private school and that school didn’t recruit and that was in a different state. One of my employees here (in yet another state) has a son that goes to a private school and that school doesn’t recruit. In fact, I’ve known numerous kids at numerous private schools over the years and I only know of one private school that actually recruited and that was Cathedral Prep in Erie. So I think outside of some of the football factory type private schools, the idea of private schools recruiting is overblown.. I really dont know of ANY privates that dont recruit for some sport.
Why? So they can devote resources from what they do well to remediate a larger social problem? I don't think so. And, BTW, a lot of parochial schools provide tuition subsidies, to the point that some students pay zero, to families of modest means.
Wish that was the case here in MD. I've got kids that are on my JV team who transfer to play varsity at horrible private schools its so bad.Here where I live, a student transferring from a public high school to a private high school has to sit out a year of playing a sport.