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Mild disadvantage. But it is a kick in the nads to the local businesses. And with zero logic behind it. Newsflash: games have been played with fans since fall and some are now at 100% capacity. If there was even a hint that this was a superspreader issue, the fear porn media would be all over it like white on rice.

Penn State should have been planning on this to be a ~25,000 event since Xmas. They could have charged for reserved tickets after accommodating students that wished to go and used funds to help local business, or first responders, or families impacted by COVID.

But instead the Governor wood lathe, President Onion dip, and the failed free-spending AD who f’d Cal sat on their hands.

So we are left with a streaming radio coverage (they could not even have TV, which they had in October?)... breathtaking incompetence.
saw part of OSU game and also some of Bama game. The Bama game had quite a few fans - not many masks, band and ESPN coverage. ESPN crew announced like a real game - Kirk and Joey. Also, talking up Bill OB new OC. felt like a recruiting ad. not sure if recruits watch these games, so unclear if it helps their recruiting.
 
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So making football fans pay over $1000 weekend with a minimum 2 night stand 4X what you would normally pay is OK?? My son got his Masters at Ithaca University. If we happened to visit him and there was something big going on at his school or Cornell hotel rates immediately doubled. I'm sure the same thing happens on off football weekends in State College.

I've got no compassion for businesses like this. Their business model is to screw fans and student's parents when ever they can. They are vultures.

It's called peak (season) pricing and it's standard hotel industry practice.
 
So making football fans pay over $1000 weekend with a minimum 2 night stand 4X what you would normally pay is OK?? My son got his Masters at Ithaca University. If we happened to visit him and there was something big going on at his school or Cornell hotel rates immediately doubled. I'm sure the same thing happens on off football weekends in State College.

I've got no compassion for businesses like this. Their business model is to screw fans and student's parents when ever they can. They are vultures.
It’s also called supply and demand. If the price is too high, you and others VP an decide their goods and services are overvalued for your cash reserves. I agree, it is not worth my money for two nights so I drive fifty miles away and stay one night.

For many of these places those 7 weekends are what keeps them financially sound. If they are making huge amounts of money with these practices others would build more to also make huge profits. Too many building will drive down prices. In time it will balance out.
 
saw part of OSU game and also some of Bama game. The Bama game had quite a few fans - not many masks, band and ESPN coverage. ESPN crew announced like a real game - Kirk and Joey. Also, talking up Bill OB new OC. felt like a recruiting ad. not sure if recruits watch these games, so unclear if it helps their recruiting.
I’m sure Bama doesn’t need a spring scrimmage on espn to sell their program
 
So when I go up and support them by spending and they get rich, I'm the cause of that, too? In that case, what's my share?

Or am I only the cause of their business outcomes if they fail?

What a whiny bunch of crap.
Wouldn't it be cool if all the State College businesses were state run (like PA's renown liquor business)? They could all have the same merchandise, menus, and prices, and never have to worry about failing. Also, they could eliminate the evil tipping that occurs in restaurants and hotels up there to further improve employee morale and customer service.
 
Yes, College Township is a totally separate municipality from State College Borough
Well, it's actually University Park - but I'm sure College Township found a way to annex UP for tax collection purposes a long time ago. College Township has their own income tax for residents.
 
Well, it's actually University Park - but I'm sure College Township found a way to annex UP for tax collection purposes a long time ago. College Township has their own income tax for residents.
That would be incorrect as well. University Park has its own zip code for postal service, but it is not its own municipality. If it did, it would have its own elected officials, governing body, etc.
 
That would be incorrect as well. University Park has its own zip code for postal service, but it is not its own municipality. If it did, it would have its own elected officials, governing body, etc.
I stand corrected.
 
Here is an article about the tax from 1997...

 
I’m sure Bama doesn’t need a spring scrimmage on espn to sell their program

You're sure..... Bama probably lobbied to to try and keep today's Spring game quiet and off of TV.....

Right. More free publicity. Any time a team is on national TV it's a sell to recruits, and everyone knows it.

Outdoor event capacity in PA is reportedly 75% capacity limited, and I've never seen a PSU Spring game that drew an actual crowd of 75K. The cover their butt PSU administration gave away a great chance for exposure and the restart of fans in the stadium in the name of "safe", whatever that is.
 
Lol, such compassion! I got mine so screw them! Great look for King Lib.

SC businesses rely on football biz to survive. Other cities have large populations to sustain them. Yes, areas around sports stadiums were hit hard but again they have a large local population to support them and most switched to a take out or delivery biz to survive until normalcy returns.

So, yuck it up at those that are losing everything they have worked for, including their investments. So when you make your next trip and have no where to eat, nowhere to shop, look in a mirror.
Are these the same bunch of locals that passed laws that students without masks (anywhere, anytime) will be fined $300? Are these the same bunch that passed laws allowing police officers to arbitrarily write noise ordinance tickets, that have a minimum of a $750 fine, at their discretion? Are these the same people that are asking $1,000/night with a two day min for a graduation that only 2 guests are allowed to attend? These People? I could go on for days but you get the idea. Eff them!
 
Lots of businesses EVERYWHERE have been harmed by the pandemic. State College businesses are no different. The notion the PSU football has some duty to them which requires them to do something the coach thinks is a bad idea is horsesh!t.
Not a duty but a nice thing to do...another missed opportunity because of stubbornness and inflexibility...now back to your Freeh report report review please.
 
I haven't read this whole thread so apologies in advance, but what was the reason given for not having a traditional Blue White game and televising it? I get maybe there isn't any attendance (or limited attendance) but why not put something on TV for folks to watch and get excited about? Seems odd.
Exactly.
 
USC is having a spring showcase on PAC 12 Network for anyone wanting to watch actual football with fans (beautiful sunny weather too). Coaches drafted the two teams. Might be fun.
If we are behind California in common sense, it may be time for onion dip, wood lathe, and Sandy to get on with their life’s work.
 
Lol, such compassion! I got mine so screw them! Great look for King Lib.

SC businesses rely on football biz to survive. Other cities have large populations to sustain them. Yes, areas around sports stadiums were hit hard but again they have a large local population to support them and most switched to a take out or delivery biz to survive until normalcy returns.

So, yuck it up at those that are losing everything they have worked for, including their investments. So when you make your next trip and have no where to eat, nowhere to shop, look in a mirror.
Aaron Rogers’ charity for last 2 week hosting Jeopardy was providing funds to businesses in No. California harmed by COVID-19 shutdowns. What a mean spirited idea!
 
Except not everyone else is doing it. Again never let facts get in the way of s good rant.
“Most everyone”...fixed it for you...certainly teams that are relevant...don’t let nit picking word-smithing get in the way of a point made...
 
saw part of OSU game and also some of Bama game. The Bama game had quite a few fans - not many masks, band and ESPN coverage. ESPN crew announced like a real game - Kirk and Joey. Also, talking up Bill OB new OC. felt like a recruiting ad. not sure if recruits watch these games, so unclear if it helps their recruiting.
Of course it does. I go into a restaurant for lunch today and it’s all over the TVs. My young son is like why isn’t penn st on, Alabama must be pretty good and popular...and he’s into the game. Free advertising
 
You're sure..... Bama probably lobbied to to try and keep today's Spring game quiet and off of TV.....

Right. More free publicity. Any time a team is on national TV it's a sell to recruits, and everyone knows it.

Outdoor event capacity in PA is reportedly 75% capacity limited, and I've never seen a PSU Spring game that drew an actual crowd of 75K. The cover their butt PSU administration gave away a great chance for exposure and the restart of fans in the stadium in the name of "safe", whatever that is.
and when exactly was the last time the Blue/White game was on national TV?
 
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What is the disadvantage?
You're kidding, right? First, there's the sheiss show that is PA in general re covid. As a recruit I'm nervous what these idiots will do next year to top their ignorance over the past 365+ days. Have a good look at bama's game... there was fun in the sun, son. SEC is playing ball... i don't know what the B1G poopy is doing. Frankly, neither do they.

[BTW, congrats to the ivy league for sending all their best talent to the rest of the world so when they get around to playing sports (like 2028 maybe) there will be a bunch of high school afterthoughts you can watch who couldn't beat the girls at uconn. lmao]

Fans follow football, and kids are kids and want to be seen and heard. Not happening at dear old stuck in the covid mud state. Never in a million years thought I'd say the words... THANK FING GOD i live in the free state of FL. Wife wants to move back north (OMG lmao) to be close to the kids.... i'll stay and man the battle stations right here.
 
Of course it does. I go into a restaurant for lunch today and it’s all over the TVs. My young son is like why isn’t penn st on, Alabama must be pretty good and popular...and he’s into the game. Free advertising
And yet when ESPN Gameday comes to town to give free publicity on a much, much, much bigger stage, many here don’t want them or think that PSU should be turning them away.
 
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You're kidding, right? First, there's the sheiss show that is PA in general re covid. As a recruit I'm nervous what these idiots will do next year to top their ignorance over the past 365+ days.
The fact that you think that recruits think like you and would downgrade PSU due to PA’s handling of COVID shows how out of touch you actually are with those 16-18 year olds.
 
Well, I'm sure you're right. Seriously, you really might be smarter than me on this one. [That sayin, the 16-18 year olds down this way would disagree but who knows what is happening up in PA these days.] I'm sure most 16-18 year olds are shaking n quaking in their boots about how dat covid's gonna gitchya when you're young and healthy.

Dear Lord, I hope not or we're all doomed.

If I wasn't a healthy eater and workout nut it probably would have gotten me last year. Today? With all the fantastic therapeutics? Meh. With Ivermectin at early onset, anyone even halfway healthy is going home just fine. Provided their pussified doctor has the stones to prescribe it.

Now, do kids watch what is going on outside PA and ask why the F they aren't playing? I'm guessing, now... but... yeah.
 
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“Most everyone”...fixed it for you...certainly teams that are relevant...don’t let nit picking word-smithing get in the way of a point made...

That's the sign of a dishonest debater - pretending that your opponent meant "absolutely", when its clear that he meant 'mostly, or many".

As if your argument depended upon Ball State holding a spring game.

Then, those arguing that there isn't a benefit in recruiting to the spring game.

Sheesh. Exhausting.
 
That's the sign of a dishonest debater - pretending that your opponent meant "absolutely", when its clear that he meant 'mostly, or many".

As if your argument depended upon Ball State holding a spring game.

Then, those arguing that there isn't a benefit in recruiting to the spring game.

Sheesh. Exhausting.
you seem to like calling anyone who disagrees with you "dishonest"- that's not an impressive trait
 
you seem to like calling anyone who disagrees with you "dishonest"- that's not an impressive trait

There are rules for honest debate. The Greeks knew them 3000 years ago. I'm simply saying that we shouldn't violate those rules when debating a topic.

Perhaps "dishonest" is too strong. Perhaps "intellectually dishonest" is better.

What term would you use to describe what was done?
 
There are rules for honest debate. The Greeks knew them 3000 years ago. I'm simply saying that we shouldn't violate those rules when debating a topic.

Perhaps "dishonest" is too strong. Perhaps "intellectually dishonest" is better.

What term would you use to describe what was done?
There is no "honest debate" here- or pretty much anywhere else- people cherry pick what info they present to bolster their position and ignore that information that does not. You do it, I do it, everyone does it. To pretend otherwise- that's dishonest.
 
There is no "honest debate" here- or pretty much anywhere else- people cherry pick what info they present to bolster their position and ignore that information that does not. You do it, I do it, everyone does it. To pretend otherwise- that's dishonest.

Have you read my posts where I have REPEATEDLY pointed out that Covid killed hundreds of thousands, and have corrected posters on "my side" again and again that "no, these aren't simply flu deaths being recoded" and so forth?

Have you read my posts where I've stated time and again that masks MUST help SOME?

Am I perfect? Of course not.
 
Given this is a dead period how exactly does not having the traditional Blue White game hurt recruiting?
Ohio state had thousands of people in the stands, were on statewide radio, and on the B1G. Penn state had Cory Giger.
I exaggerate but clearly their is a reason Ohio state outperforms PSU and will continue to do so. BTW they featured several top notch PA kids and mentioned that on the radio broadcast whenever they could. St. Joe’s prep (philly) has at least two kids who they expect to play substantial roles
 
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Ohio state has thousands of people in the stands, were on statewide radio, and on the B1G. Penn state had Cory Giger.
I exaggerate but clearly their is a reason Ohio state outperforms PSU and will continue to do so. BTW they featured several top notch PA kids and mentioned that on the radio broadcast whenever they could. St. Joe’s prep (philly) has at least two kids who they expect to play substantial roles

I remember when we beat them 63-14. At that time, we were kings, and OSU was another "second tier" program.
 
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That's the sign of a dishonest debater - pretending that your opponent meant "absolutely", when its clear that he meant 'mostly, or many".

As if your argument depended upon Ball State holding a spring game.

Then, those arguing that there isn't a benefit in recruiting to the spring game.

Sheesh. Exhausting.
Nit picking is exhausting...does not change my overall point (as you know)...
 
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Ohio state had thousands of people in the stands, were on statewide radio, and on the B1G. Penn state had Cory Giger.
I exaggerate but clearly their is a reason Ohio state outperforms PSU and will continue to do so. BTW they featured several top notch PA kids and mentioned that on the radio broadcast whenever they could. St. Joe’s prep (philly) has at least two kids who they expect to play substantial roles
100% spot on.
 
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FWIW. Marshall ( lead by Coach Huff ) has a full game. Split 2 teams 12 min quarters. Great crowd maybe 8-10k $5 to get in. No tailgating on MU property but there is plenty on non MU property around the stadium to tailgate on The AD brought back many former players to meet Huff, they tailgated across the street on non MU property w the AD and Prez
Had cheerleaders and the Band in the stadium as well

A pretty good day n lots of fun
 
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