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Another 57 victims testifying tomorrow (Weds, 1/31) against Larry Nassar

For the lurkers and visitors from BuckeyePlanet or Pittsburgh sites or U-M sites or whatever school ---- your argument that you've made from 2011 to the present (and sometimes still continue to make today) was totally wrong. Totally 100% wrong. It could happen at your school too, and there'd be a division in opinions amongst your fans when if/when it did happen. You're not any better than us. You never were better, and you never will be better (concurrently: we're not better than them either).

Frankly, it's already happened at tOSU. No, not the same crime, per se, but a "good guy" offender? Yep--Art Schlichter. Fooled everyone (me too, to be fair), especially his second time around whne he got a second chance after serving his sentences. Very similar type of personality, IMHO.
 
Wow. If that's seriously your concern given what we know about this, you need help.

This happened. Nassar admitted his crimes and apologized to his victims. I'll assume you were NOT serious and this was a bad joke.
I did not take his remark at meaning that there would be a lot of false claims (though that may be what the poster meant). But at the least, claims can be rightly made that some girls were put in danger even if they weren't harmed. That's gonna get expensive.
 
I take no "joy" in reading this, but damn it seems like a LOT of people who tried to tear down Penn State/Paterno had their hands in this scandal:

It's hard to say what role the Karolyi's had. They were known as tough coaches--which is one reason they are getting blowback here. But they could have been fooled as well.
 
"Karolyi is everything the United States needs. You may not like this man with the bristling mustache, the eyes like burning glass, and the fierce booming voice; it may bother you to see him hulking over tiny bodies and urging them to deadly feats, but he is the maker of modern gymnastics, transforming it from a sport of delicacy to power. Without him, the United States doesn't turn out Mary Lou Rettons, it turns out, well, Jamie Dantzscher."

Oh, snap.
 
Interesting defense strategy:

“I think Larry Nassar comes off as a really great person. There is no doubt he did a lot of good for a lot of his patients,” she said. “While people are criticizing the techniques he used, there is undeniably proof that those techniques would take a girl who came into his office unable to walk and fix her in a way that she was able to compete the next day. So, I see good in Larry Nassar.”

Shannon Smith said there is "a huge part of me that doesn't believe every one of those girls was victimized by him. There was no way there could have been so much," she said. "Larry would have to have been doing this all day, every day with no one catching on. This is a guy who put child pornography in a trash can. He's not a savvy guy."
 
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Interesting defense strategy:

“I think Larry Nassar comes off as a really great person. There is no doubt he did a lot of good for a lot of his patients,” she said. “While people are criticizing the techniques he used, there is undeniably proof that those techniques would take a girl who came into his office unable to walk and fix her in a way that she was able to compete the next day. So, I see good in Larry Nassar.”

Shannon Smith said there is "a huge part of me that doesn't believe every one of those girls was victimized by him. There was no way there could have been so much," she said. "Larry would have to have been doing this all day, every day with no one catching on. This is a guy who put child pornography in a trash can. He's not a savvy guy."

Haven't the victims been through enough already without being shamed?
 
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“I think Larry Nassar comes off as a really great person. There is no doubt he did a lot of good for a lot of his patients,” she said. “While people are criticizing the techniques he used, there is undeniably proof that those techniques would take a girl who came into his office unable to walk and fix her in a way that she was able to compete the next day. So, I see good in Larry Nassar.”

Shannon Smith said there is "a huge part of me that doesn't believe every one of those girls was victimized by him. There was no way there could have been so much," she said. "Larry would have to have been doing this all day, every day with no one catching on. This is a guy who put child pornography in a trash can. He's not a savvy guy."
That awkward moment when the perp says don't listen to my defense attorney, I'm guilty AF.
 
State suspends UM pediatrician for inappropriate relationships with patients
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Kim Russell

ANN ARBOR, Mich. (WXYZ) - A University of Michigan pediatrician is under investigation, accused of being a sexual predator.

Dr. Mark Franklin Hoeltzel’s medical license is suspended after a state investigation.

“We’re looking into the status of his medical license and what we are going to do with respect to the suspension. But right now again, it is important to remind everyone that he is presumed innocent,” said Raymond Cassar, Hoeltzel’s attorney.

The state investigation was done by the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs Bureau of Professional Licensing. It found multiple cases of inappropriate behavior.

It says in 2004, the doctor treated an 11 year old girl as he worked at the University of Michigan Arthritis Camp. Her mom reported that the doctor sent the little girl flirtatious and suggestive messages on Yahoo Messenger. The state report says the hospital sent him to a class on having boundaries.

Parents who have taken their children to the University of Michigan asked to speak anonymously. They say they don’t feel that punishment was severe enough. They wonder if the alleged behavior that followed could have been prevented.

“Why are you texting an 11-year-old? Why is that something you would contemplate as a grown man? It is predatory behavior,” said the mom. “He should have been fired right then.”

“Michigan Medicine has engaged an experienced outside reviewer to investigate this entire matter,” read a statement released by the medical center. “After the inappropriate messages were brought to the health system's attention in 2006, the health system cooperated fully with the police on an investigation. While the police did not find evidence constituting criminal conduct, the health system determined that Hoeltzel’s conduct was inappropriate and required him to attend training on appropriate professional conduct.”

The state report says inappropriate behavior continued. In 2015 Dr. Hoeltzel allegedly spotted a patient at the hospital under the care of another doctor. He started sending her text messages and convinced her to see him for care. The report says she was under 21 years old in 2016 when the doctor provided her with alcohol while she was on oxycontin and morphine. He allegedly had a sexual relationship with her at his office and at her apartment.

Concerned parents wonder if this could have been prevented.

“Think about it. If you leave a rabid puppy somewhere with a bunch of kids, don’t you think he will attack?” said Kenisha White, a mom to four. “If you are just going to send him to a class, then what have you done in the past? Are there other cases you have covered up? That puts the whole university in question.”

“These are very disturbing and serious allegations, and we have reached out to our patients to inform them of the situation, offer resources and provide them with a way to report any concerns,” said Marschall S. Runge, M.D., Ph.D., the CEO of Michigan Medicine, in a statement.

The statement said Dr. Hoeltzel is no longer a Michigan Medicine employee.

University of Michigan Police have an ongoing criminal investigation that could result in charges.
 
Yep pretty much every female that has seen Nassar since the 90's will be suing even if they weren't molested. 100s maybe even 1000s of women.
All they need is a little repressed memory therapy.
 
Maybe JZ can get some photos of these victims not behaving so he can shame them.
My comments aren't intended to proclaim JS's innocence. They're intended to say that it's become too easy in our society to make a weak claim against somebody for financial gain. I don't care if it's JS, Nassar, or a sexuasl abuse claim.
 
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