Keep talking to me about these super stud 5 stars.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ing-star-rankings-for-first-round-selections/
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The hit rate for 4 and 5 Stars is so much higher - rankings matter a lot. Here’s another look:fully half were 3 star or less
star gazing has it's limits
The hit rate for 4 and 5 Stars is so much higher - rankings matter a lot. Here’s another look:
I don't know how some of these people continue posting stats they think refute the rankings and act proud of it when it does the opposite.
or how the same people use it for a self fulfilling prophecy .." the star system works because we hand em out"The same people will probably tell us Somoans are crappy football players because they are such a minority in the NFL.
Well stated RoyboyI understand the stats
Still, my main takeaway is that a 5-star status guarantees nothing, not stardom in college nor a decent NFL career; there are plenty of guys who become outstanding pro football players despite a low evaluation when they were 17 or 18 years olds....it is an inexact process
I agree, although a higher percentage of 5 stars make it, they are also supposed to be the "can't miss" players, and nearly half of them didn't even make an NFL roster. Don't get me wrong, I'll take all the 5 stars we can get, but "stars" aren't everything.I understand the stats
Still, my main takeaway is that a 5-star status guarantees nothing, not stardom in college nor a decent NFL career; there are plenty of guys who become outstanding pro football players despite a low evaluation when they were 17 or 18 years olds....it is an inexact process
I agree, although a higher percentage of 5 stars make it, they are also supposed to be the "can't miss" players, and nearly half of them didn't even make an NFL roster. Don't get me wrong, I'll take all the 5 stars we can get, but "stars" aren't everything.
fully half were 3 star or less
star gazing has it's limits
I understand the stats
Still, my main takeaway is that a 5-star status guarantees nothing, not stardom in college nor a decent NFL career; there are plenty of guys who become outstanding pro football players despite a low evaluation when they were 17 or 18 years olds....it is an inexact process
I understand the stats
Still, my main takeaway is that a 5-star status guarantees nothing, not stardom in college nor a decent NFL career; there are plenty of guys who become outstanding pro football players despite a low evaluation when they were 17 or 18 years olds....it is an inexact process
Let me help you out. Rivals rates players based on the chances they will be an impact player at the college level. It is not a predictor of NFL success.
If that's what you think, then you don't understand the star rating system.
It is an inexact science but the correlation is clear and strong.I understand the stats
Still, my main takeaway is that a 5-star status guarantees nothing, not stardom in college nor a decent NFL career; there are plenty of guys who become outstanding pro football players despite a low evaluation when they were 17 or 18 years olds....it is an inexact process
Keep talking to me about these super stud 5 stars.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ing-star-rankings-for-first-round-selections/
Keep talking to me about these super stud 5 stars.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ing-star-rankings-for-first-round-selections/
SEVEN is an AMAZINGLY high percentage given there are so few five Stars, a ton of four stars and a HUGE number of three stars. That result is no doubt statistically significant and a big endorsement of the STAR system.
How can you think otherwise???
Take any stat courses in college??? Seemingly not, you made an incredibly compelling case for the star system.
I understand the stats
Still, my main takeaway is that a 5-star status guarantees nothing, not stardom in college nor a decent NFL career; there are plenty of guys who become outstanding pro football players despite a low evaluation when they were 17 or 18 years olds....it is an inexact process
Skip the scolding, heckmans. I understand the system fine. I've followed college football and recruiting for many years.
It's better to have a class of 5* than a class of 3*. There is no denying that..... Unless you're Pitt.
Not sure why you persist here.Just because you keep saying it, doesn't make it true. No offense, but do the math on the percentage of 5, 4, 3, 2 star recruits drafted in the first round and then defend the assertions you made in this thread about player ratings. It don't add up.
That is a strawman argument if there ever was one. Who ever said there were guarantees? A: Nobody, ever. Who ever said it was an exact process? A: Nobody.
It's all about the odds. Chickman's table tells all you need to know about the information contained in the ratings -- a strong and positive correlation. The last line -- 11% of unrated players make the NFL is interesting -- it means that unrated scholarship guys are more likely to make be drafted than most lower rated 2 and 3-star players. Coaches know something about the unrated players they give scholarships, imagine that, sleepers exist...
I think Franklin should only recruit 2-3 stars. We’d be a much better team apparently.I love when I thread is started to prove a point but it proves that person just how wrong they are.
Why does he need to spend any time scouting and judging talent?I think Franklin should only recruit 2-3 stars. We’d be a much better team apparently.
So Barkley, Sanders and Parsons are rated 2 stars higher than they should be?You failed to add that each of their recruits are on the cusp of being rated higher! And their 3-Star kids from Florida are the equivalent of a 5-Star from Pennsylvania!
Yep. There really isn’t any other way to spin the data here. That’s an amazing hit rate by Rivals.So of the ~250,000 kids playing football as seniors in HS, 33 are rated 5 stars. And you are saying that of those 33 seven were within the first 32 picks of the NFL draft?
That is an absolutely incredible hit ratio. Rivals really knows their stuff.
LdN
Look at guys such as Jordan Hicks and Bryce Brown. Both were 5-stars coming out of HS, but had middling college careers for different reasons. Both were drafted and played well (esp Hicks) for NFL teams. Brown was great (esp for a 6th round pick) in Philly before being traded and fizzling out in Buffalo.that is well said. it is the probabilities are much higher for 4* and 5* players.
you want to look at another piece of research I saw on NFL network before the draft - and that is the odds of a 5* player getting invited to the combine and being drafted even though their actual college career may have been pedestrian. it was shockingly high (around 30% of the odds of a 5* AA player).