All I ever hear from OSU fans are "Urban gets who Urban wants." And if a recruit just happens to pick PSU, it's because Urban did not want him. I'd love to get all 3 just to shut them up.
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Urban not only usually gets whoever he wants, he usually doesn't even have much of a fight for them. The next step is for Franklin to actually pull some of these kids from Meyer,
Some people only can keep track of the misses.Come on. You're a good poster, but it's disappointing to see a Penn State fan supporting a lazy media narrative.
The following Penn State players already on the roster were landed by James Franklin who had offers (according to Rivals) from Ohio State and Meyer:
Ryan Bates
Saeed Blacknall
Fred Hansard
Sterling Jenkins
Juwan Johnson
Michal Menet
Shane Simmons
Garrett Taylor
Lamont Wade
Manny Bowen
Mike Gesicki
Steven Gonzalez
Zech McPhearson
I'm sure there are some more that I'm missing. That also doesn't include the recruits from the 2018 class with Ohio State offers.
Come on. You're a good poster, but it's disappointing to see a Penn State fan supporting a lazy media narrative.
The following Penn State players already on the roster were landed by James Franklin who had offers (according to Rivals) from Ohio State and Meyer:
Ryan Bates
Saeed Blacknall
Fred Hansard
Sterling Jenkins
Juwan Johnson
Michal Menet
Shane Simmons
Garrett Taylor
Lamont Wade
Manny Bowen
Mike Gesicki
Steven Gonzalez
Zech McPhearson
I'm sure there are some more that I'm missing. That also doesn't include the recruits from the 2018 class with Ohio State offers.
Meyer recruited the sh*t out of Gesicki and even after BOB bailed he couldn't reel him in.
Right?!?! Most just seemed like level-headed fans for the wrong team. I like fans like those posters--makes for great banter.Buckeye fans pretty evenhanded. If we only got one of three I'd be pretty happy.
Come on. You're a good poster, but it's disappointing to see a Penn State fan supporting a lazy media narrative.
The following Penn State players already on the roster were landed by James Franklin who had offers (according to Rivals) from Ohio State and Meyer:
Ryan Bates
Saeed Blacknall
Fred Hansard
Sterling Jenkins
Juwan Johnson
Michal Menet
Shane Simmons
Garrett Taylor
Lamont Wade
Manny Bowen
Mike Gesicki
Steven Gonzalez
Zech McPhearson
I'm sure there are some more that I'm missing. That also doesn't include the recruits from the 2018 class with Ohio State offers.
What I meant by "THEY have not signed yet", was, Parsons, Oweh, and Smith have not signed yet. Just clarifying that, not arguing your point. I did not mean that Franklin has not begun to take the next step. The above players illustrate your point that it has started. I am saying that if we can consistently win our share against Meyer, then that's the final step. I do agree with you, that we have started that process.
Urban not only usually gets whoever he wants, he usually doesn't even have much of a fight for them. This is why, what Franklin is doing, is so significant. For the past 2 years now, it has become an actual fight for Meyer, to get some of these elite kids, where he usually had them from "hello".
WPB_lion, not sure if you attended the PSU Alumni event back in early 2000's in Palm Beach Gardens that Joe spoke at? About 500 alumni were in attendance? Anyhow, I asked a question towards the end about recruiting more in FL as there are many good players that would be great additions and would fit the PSU culture..I stated to Joe I coach down here and never see PSU recruiting etc...the entire audience clapped-which I was a little embarrassed and felt bad for Joe a little...he said "Coach the NCAA is very strict on how many flights a kid can make and that we are hard to get too etc."The last 2 years represent the first time in a long that PSU has been able to compete in recruiting without having one hand tied behind its back. We began operating at a disadvantage when Paterno started slowing down on the recruiting trail due to age and we continued to operate at a disadvantage when the sanctions hit. What Franklin has done in the last couple of years used to be, and should continue to be, PSU's standard when operating at 100% with respect to recruiting. We should be recruiting head to head with the top programs in the country.
Things dont last forever that's all...no implication. Simple there are 4 stages of the life cycle for everything and anything-Birth-Growth-Maturation-Declination.What does that mean?
WPB_lion, not sure if you attended the PSU Alumni event back in early 2000's in Palm Beach Gardens that Joe spoke at? About 500 alumni were in attendance? Anyhow, I asked a question towards the end about recruiting more in FL as there are many good players that would be great additions and would fit the PSU culture..I stated to Joe I coach down here and never see PSU recruiting etc...the entire audience clapped-which I was a little embarrassed and felt bad for Joe a little...he said "Coach the NCAA is very strict on how many flights a kid can make and that we are hard to get too etc."
Anyhow...like most things change is good. I wasn't a big proponent of Franklin and especially the first two seasons when basic clock management was an issue
Franklin has figured it out and is comfortable now, hired great Coordinators and position coaches and is genuine and sincere in his recruiting...he is a breath of fresh air-we are lucky and its going to be unbelievable these next few years...enjoy it while we can.
Yes thanks for refreshing my memory, he did elaborate on all those points.I was there and it was March 9, 2002 (I know because I have a picture of myself with Paterno hanging in my office and it has the date in the corner of the picture). It was an awesome event.
As a side note, McQueary's initial testimony was that the Sandusky incident occurred just a few days prior to March 9, 2002 and I remember when the news of the scandal first hit in 2011, I saw the date of the picture hanging in my office and thought to myself that the incident must have been fresh on Paterno's mind when the picture was taken. However, it later turned out that the Sandusky incident actually occurred one year prior.
Back to your question to Paterno, I remember the question because that question is on the mind of every Floridian PSU fan. My recollection of his answer was something along the line of that it is very difficult for PSU to beat FSU, Florida and Miami for Florida recruits if the Florida recruit has to take more than 2 flights to get to PSU. PSU (like every school) has finite resources for recruiting and PSU made the choice to spend these resources elsewhere unless the recruit expresses interest first.
I agree with this sentiment! I've done a lot of reflecting on some stuff like this recently, maybe it was turning 30 that made me think about this, idk, but so many talented people in all walks have such short windows of being at the top of their game. It makes you respect it so much more when someone does it over time and is not just a flash in the pan. 20 year dynasties are great and I hope this is the start of one, but they are hard to come by. Loving every second off this right now.Things dont last forever that's all...no implication. Simple there are 4 stages of the life cycle for everything and anything-Birth-Growth-Maturation-Declination.
Think about it-What stage are we in with Franklin now? I think early phase of Growth stage. Alabama for example is in Maturation stage.
Just appreciate and enjoy everything we got all the time...
Things dont last forever that's all...no implication. Simple there are 4 stages of the life cycle for everything and anything-Birth-Growth-Maturation-Declination.
Think about it-What stage are we in with Franklin now? I think early phase of Growth stage. Alabama for example is in Maturation stage.
Just appreciate and enjoy everything we got all the time...
There's 4 stages to that too...I wont outlay that lol..but the Declination phase well that's clean up and a cigarette.For a moment there I thought you said masturbation!
Which is probably the only four-syllable word in your vocabulary, so no wonder there.For a moment there I thought you said masturbation!
Looks like Micah Parsons could be the Prodigal Son who has strayed, but will be welcomed back.
Which is probably the only four-syllable word in your vocabulary, so no wonder there.
Just this morning I heard from a 247 VIP member that he's heard Fields may be visiting for the Nebraska game. I'm not sure if he got that from Sean Fitz but I'll find out his source on Thursday (same physical therapist).So what's the latest with FIELDS? Not very clear what the trend is...
So what's the latest with FIELDS? Not very clear what the trend is...
He was in town - no crystal ball movement as a result of his visit, but he tweeted that he had a good time.So any reports or interviews with Oweh following his visit? Have not heard a peep, did he make it up to Happy Valley?
So what's the latest with FIELDS? Not very clear what the trend is...
He was at LSU last weekend and it sounds like it went well, except for the Tigers getting pounded. The Tigers would be his best chance for an early starting role. The other suitor, and who appears to be the leader at this point, is UGA. With that being said, they have a deep depth chart at QB. FSU, with their QB depth chart being what it is, appears to have fallen behind UGA.
It would be great, albeit a huge long shot, if the Lions somehow got back in the mix.
Is this the same dumbass that stole Walker's thunder? Are we sure that this basic blues clown isn't with O$U?
Yep. Same dude.Is this the same dumbass that stole Walker's thunder? Are we sure that this basic blues clown isn't with O$U?
Homina homina.
Yep. Same dude.
Ralph Kramden quotes are usually effective.Well said.....very well said.
Fonzie and I were both drooling over that pic!