Mat Scouts has Penn State at 170 Points
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Brooks with only 2 bonus while Star has 6? I'd think 4.5-6 for each. I think your placements are pretty reasonable, even conservative, as ridiculous as that seems with 3 Champs and 10 AAs. I don't really see Truax or Nagao getting more bonus than AB, but I also don't see us finishing much lower than your predictions.
Yeah, with the new bonus rules, I think bonus points will be flowing like water in the early rounds.
I believe the key to breaking the record is pins. You get 2x bonus points for a fall vs a TF so we need our guys to work more for the falls in the early rounds if the record is gonna be broken.
For clarification: bonus points are: MD = 1.0, TF = 1.5, F = 2.0
The biggest key to breaking the record is placement points. Obviously we want both, but placement is mathematically more valuable.
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that's false. you get 1 bonus point for a major, 1.5 for a tech fall, and 2 for a pin.
Something you never see or hear on gia lmfao we are
Watching the PIAA matches thread… arm bars aren’t what they used to be either
I apologize to all for underestimating just how good PSU wrestling is. We should break 180 with room to spare. New spreadsheets are still conservative IMHO.
| Weight | Name | Finish | Points | Bonus |
125 | Davis | 5 | 10 | 1 |
133 | Nagao | 4 | 12.5 | 3 |
141 | Bartlett | 3 | 13.5 | 2 |
149 | Kasak | 7 | 6.5 | 1 |
157 | Haines | 2 | 16 | 2 |
165 | Mesenbrink | 3 | 13.5 | 4 |
174 | Starocci | 1 | 20 | 6 |
184 | Truax | 4 | 12.5 | 3 |
197 | Brooks | 1 | 20 | 2 |
285 | Kerkvliet | 1 | 20 | 2 |
144.5 | 26 | |||
125 | Davis | 3 | 13.5 | 2 |
133 | Nagao | 4 | 12.5 | 3 |
141 | Bartlett | 2 | 16 | 2 |
149 | Kasak | 5 | 10 | 2 |
157 | Haines | 2 | 16 | 2.5 |
165 | Mesenbrink | 3 | 13.5 | 4 |
174 | Starocci | 1 | 20 | 6 |
184 | Truax | 4 | 12.5 | 3 |
197 | Brooks | 1 | 20 | 4 |
285 | Kerkvliet | 1 | 20 | 3 |
154 | 31.5 | |||
I will take any and all action on this.
Yeah, that’s a little aggro/IronBird fever dream
OP seems confident. He says it’s conservative. 😂😂
He has Levi finishing runner up in both and kasak could really add to the mix
Madden is correct. OP is NOT conservative.
- Nagao and Kasak are very aggressive placings, odds are they each are going to be in a dogfight in a blood-round match.
- Davis at 3 is a total crapshoot with the way 125 has been. He could be 1, he could be R16, he could be anywhere in between.
- Bernie will likely be in a blood-round match as well, although I think he is probably a solid favorite in that matchup.
- The others are pretty good, you may complain about Levi at 2, but Beau could be anywhere from 1 to 5. MM at 3 is fair. Carter, Brooks, and Kerk are about as locks as you can get but there is some doubt about Carter's injury (not that I have any).
We have two guys going for 4 titles this year and I would be willing to bet that most Penn State fans have no idea who Brooks' or Staroccis' parents are, John Brooks may be the exception, but they are definitely NOT in the spot light.
yep. Trying to think back... PSU parents seemed to be in the spotlight based on TV while their kids were wrestling in the finals... Damn, Casey in the spotlight
- sign of things to come
There is absolutely no self-promotion coming from our parents that I'm aware of, unless I'm misunderstanding your reply?yep. Trying to think back... PSU parents seemed to be in the spotlight based on TV while their kids were wrestling in the finals... Damn, Casey in the spotlight
This is where Don Rickles, the Pit Boss in Casino, steps in and has a little chat with you. “Sir, it might be time to cash out”. Casinos hate when bettors are a little too confident
Man, I love that movie
180 with room to spare is conservative? So what’s your radical take?
Given the two true frosh, Carter’s injury, and average expectations for Nagao and Bernie, I’m in the 150’s for another team title. Guessing Levi and Kerk are two first-timers.
yes sir, trying to say our wrestler's parents are never in the spotlight unless the tv chases them down (and only at the natty finals).
Phhhht. Okay, I'll bet you $100 that PSU scores less than 31.5 bonus points.
Who is the poster that developed a mathematical model for NCAAs? I love his posts every year--he may even rival JohnBrooks in the likes-to-posts ratio. If he predicts >170, I'll start believing it.
At the Big Tens my buddy asked these guys if we could use a chair from their table and they invited us to sit down. One guy was Beau Bartlett's dad and we talked for about two hours. He went into the recruiting stuff, goings on at PSU and the program and was really engaging. Him and his friend were in the Marines together and told us some old war stories.
I never would have known who he was if he didn't u=introduce himself. I was sitting right behind Nagao's family and two rows behind Messenbrink's folks. Beau's dad were in the same row as Mitch's parents. They were all nice people and pretty low key, of course they did cheer for the guys but otherwise they were just parents watching their kids.
I think 31.5 bonus points is still low. We scored 20.5 at BIGS, with 6 of our hammers missing the first round.
Beau, Levi., Mitch, Carter, Brooks, and Kerk wrestled a total of 15 matches; they will double that at the NCAAs. The opening round should be a blood bath for those unlucky enough to be on our side of the bracket.
Beau, Levi., Mitch, Carter, Brooks, and Kerk wrestled a total of 15 matches; they will double that at the NCAAs. The opening round should be a blood bath for those unlucky enough to be on our side of the bracket.
I know even less about wrestling than I thought . Is this a typo ? They had atleast 5 pins that I recall
For what it’s worth I read somewhere their highest ever was 32.5 or was it 31.5 .
I’m again in the minority . I would not be surprised at all if they break 30 .
I’d be curious if you had to put an over under on team points and bonus points for Penn state what’s the line. Asking for a friend 🙂
125: DNQ
133 RBY: 1 MD = 1.0
141 Bartlett: 1 MD = 1.0
149 Van Ness: 1 pin = 2.0
157 Haines: 1 pin = 2.0
165 Facundo: no bonus
174 Starocci: 2 pins = 4.0
184 Brooks: 1 MD + 1 pin = 3.0
197 Dean: no bonus
285 Kerkvliet: 1 MD + 1 pin = 3.0
Total = 16.0
