Some of these people on this board are ridiculous. They want to completely minimize any accomplishment Joe had to prop up their boy Franklin. "He had much better talent in Pennsylvania back then, he played lousy competition, he got lucky"...on and on. My God just give the man his due credit. Are you a Penn State fan or what? Completely weird and distorted logic. Joe Paterno is a freakin' legend and icon. He built Penn State University into what it is today. Before him it was a nice regional university with an average football program. Guess what? Those 108,000 people who show up to home games on Saturdays well that is all because of Joe. Not partly due to Joe, ALL because of Joe. He belongs on the Mt. Rushmore of the sport. Franklin doesn't compare. Deal with it.