What is the reaction on the OSU boards to the Kelly news?
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As far as I know, never coached at OSU before, which is what I meant by a legacy hire. I realize he was an OSU player.
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35-34 isn't going to cut it at OSU. Ucla regressed with Kelly. Attendance was down, recruiting down and less wins.
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Manny Diaz was a very mediocre head coach -- 21-15 record with the talent he had at Miami was definitely not good enough. Turns out, success as a coordinator is very different than success as a head coach. The jobs are completely different.
UCLA regressing under Kelly is flat out false. His first three years they won 3, 4, and 3 games. Their last 3 years: 8, 9, and 8. Some of these takes are just terrible. If Chip Kelly had left UCLA to become our OC, this board would be awash in celebration -- you included.
And he's not the HC there and has far better talent
If we hired Kelly, people would have been thrilled.
Joe never had to contend with near death penalty level sanctions and the aftermath of those sanctions. We are currently no different than what we were averaging under Joe over his last 15 years. Joe was at his peak when Pennsylvania was still at a nationally elite level of high school football talent. He could recruit a roster filled with PA kids and plug in a few kids from NJ and OH and call it a day. Franklin has to recruit the entire East Coast and beyond at this point.
As a Head Coach, certainly. But OSU is looking for him to be just an OC. Not worrying about recruiting, NIL or any of the other things that Head Coaches have to worry about. Kelly is obviously burned out with all that and just wants to be an OC. All OSU wants is for him to work with Day to scheme the Offense and be the game day play caller. Day's passing game combined with Kelly's run concepts "could" create a potent offense. Or it could be a failure. Time will tell.
To answer the original question, Buckeye boards are very, very pleased with this.
The reaction to Bill O'Brien was mostly positive (myself included), but the optimism was a tad bit mixed (probably a 7/10) and there was a bit of skepticism on Buckeye boards. In contrast, the reaction to Kelly is much more positive. His relationship with Day and his strengths (run game concepts, for instance) will really help Day in areas where Day needs the help. O'Brien is perhaps a better QB coach, but Kelly the more innovative offensive mind.
It's no secret that Kelly hates recruiting particularly in the NIL era, which explained why he was trying to get to the NFL. He wasn't really even a viable candidate until recently, so O'Brien going to BC actually worked out well for us. Kelly won't have to recruit at all at OSU, just as Kevin Wilson didn't recruit much for us.
The reaction to Bill O'Brien was mostly positive (myself included), but the optimism was a tad bit mixed (probably a 7/10) and there was a bit of skepticism on Buckeye boards. In contrast, the reaction to Kelly is much more positive. His relationship with Day and his strengths (run game concepts, for instance) will really help Day in areas where Day needs the help. O'Brien is perhaps a better QB coach, but Kelly the more innovative offensive mind.
It's no secret that Kelly hates recruiting particularly in the NIL era, which explained why he was trying to get to the NFL. He wasn't really even a viable candidate until recently, so O'Brien going to BC actually worked out well for us. Kelly won't have to recruit at all at OSU, just as Kevin Wilson didn't recruit much for us.
I never get tired of these guys comparing Joe's final 10 years against JF in his prime.
Here's the funny part - against his peers, in his final 10 years, which included the dark years, Joe still had a higher ceiling than JF (#3 final ranking, 2 B1G championships.
The major question is whether you think JF's peers in the B1G are stronger than Joe's were. UM has been better the last 3 (not the first 7) than Carr/DickRod. Was Tressel worse than Meyer/Day?
Some of these people on this board are ridiculous. They want to completely minimize any accomplishment Joe had to prop up their boy Franklin. "He had much better talent in Pennsylvania back then, he played lousy competition, he got lucky"...on and on. My God just give the man his due credit. Are you a Penn State fan or what? Completely weird and distorted logic. Joe Paterno is a freakin' legend and icon. He built Penn State University into what it is today. Before him it was a nice regional university with an average football program. Guess what? Those 108,000 people who show up to home games on Saturdays well that is all because of Joe. Not partly due to Joe, ALL because of Joe. He belongs on the Mt. Rushmore of the sport. Franklin doesn't compare. Deal with it.
We could say the exact same thing about you and Franklin on virtually every point. You complain about 10-2. Did not play anyone. He got lucky. He had more talent. Will you give him his due credit?
Are you a PSU fan or a Joebot? If you are a Joebot then just move on go find the statue. Joe is not coming back.
Send the frags, but I think this is a great hire for OSU. I think BOB is a better OC coach, but think Kelly is a better fit going into this season for OSU.
OSU got the talent but have lacked an "identity" since Meyer left. Chip will give them an identity.
NO one is going to win at UCLA until the admin gets behind the program (look at the new HC hire). Chip was running up a cliff the day he got there. He got tired of grabbing falling boulders.
OSU got the talent but have lacked an "identity" since Meyer left. Chip will give them an identity.
NO one is going to win at UCLA until the admin gets behind the program (look at the new HC hire). Chip was running up a cliff the day he got there. He got tired of grabbing falling boulders.
Dude was speaking the truth. I have been watching almost every game since 1993.
Taking Paternos years of 2001 -2010 and Franklin's 2015- 2023 the facts are there. Franklin has built a great recruiting infrastructure and the roster throughout those years.show it compared to the same relative period. paternos last 9 years. It is also obvious that Paterno did more with less comparitely during the same time.
Paterno's 93-00 weren't really all that different outside of 94, where the best win was against a 4 loss team. He was 0-9 against teams that finished ranked in the top 10 from 93-00.
OSU has also finished in the top ten all ten of Franklins seasons. They had 11 top ten finishes from 93-2011.
Franklin has 3 wins against teams that finished in the top ten. #10 Utah (22), #6 OSU (16) #9 Wisconsin (16)
Joe had 2 from 93-2011. #5 OSU (05) and #9 OSU (08).
2016 is the only season Penn State has beaten multiple teams in the final top 10 since joining the conference.
2022 is the only season Penn State has beaten a team in the final top 10 in a bowl game since joining the conference.
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Too bad the stink of OSU's wrestling scandal hasn't stuck with them . Of course, very few news programs gave them much more than passing mention!
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