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Were Franklin's offenses good at Kansas State/Maryland?

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I don't really get the sense that they were all that great. If not, he needs to hire a really top-notch OC and delegate all decisions/control over the offense to that person.
 
I don't really get the sense that they were all that great. If not, he needs to hire a really top-notch OC and delegate all decisions/control over the offense to that person.
He was terrible. That why he got hired as a head coach in the SEC. That is why he was the coach in waiting at Maryland. Stop and think about it for a second. When was the last time a bad coordinator got hired for a P5 head coaching job?
 
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I don't really get the sense that they were all that great. If not, he needs to hire a really top-notch OC and delegate all decisions/control over the offense to that person.

Doesn't matter - all we need to know is that his offenses were bad at PSU and it appears he is trying to do something about that - good for him.
 
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He was terrible. That why he got hired as a head coach in the SEC. That is why he was the coach in waiting at Maryland. Stop and think about it for a second. When was the last time a bad coordinator got hired for a P5 head coaching job?
When's the last time a PSU head coach was hired by the likes of Erickson and Joiner?
 
Josh Freeman was a very successful QB at Kansas State during Franklin's tenure, and IIRC both he and Jordy Nelson set records under Franklin's tenure. Not as sure about Maryland.
 
Josh Freeman was a very successful QB at Kansas State during Franklin's tenure, and IIRC both he and Jordy Nelson set records under Franklin's tenure. Not as sure about Maryland.
Don't think Franklin was ever the OC at MD. Freidgen probably handled those duties himself.

Ralph Friedgen...now there's an OC.
 
He was terrible. That why he got hired as a head coach in the SEC. That is why he was the coach in waiting at Maryland. Stop and think about it for a second. When was the last time a bad coordinator got hired for a P5 head coaching job?


The "coach in waiting" agreement got pulled and he was hired at Vanderbilt. That doesn't answer the questions and neither do your points.
 
The "coach in waiting" agreement got pulled and he was hired at Vanderbilt. That doesn't answer the questions and neither do your points.
It was not pulled. He left before Friedgen was fired. He was a pretty good coordinator.

From his Vandy Bio:

Prior to accepting the Vanderbilt position, Franklin spent five seasons coordinating highly productive offensive units at the University of Maryland and Kansas State University. In his second stint at Maryland from 2008-10, Franklin served as offensive coordinator, and later added the title of assistant head coach at Maryland. In 2010, he helped the Terrapins to an impressive 9-4 turnaround. That season, Franklin's explosive offense averaged 32.2 points and topped 50 points in three games. Maryland redshirt freshman quarterback Danny O'Brien finished the 2010 season as one of the nation's most efficient signal callers, throwing for 2,438 yards, 22 touchdowns, and only eight interceptions while earning ACC Rookie of the Year honors. First team All-ACC receiver Torrey Smith, an eventual second round NFL pick, flourished under Franklin's system, finishing 2010 with 67 receptions, 1,055 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns.
Franklin also was offensive coordinator at Kansas State in 2006 and 2007 with the Wildcats ranking 20th in passing offense and 21st in scoring offense in his second season. He helped the Wildcats earn their first winning season in four years and a berth in the inaugural Texas Bowl. In 2006, Franklin focused on mentoring talented true freshman quarterback Josh Freeman. In 2007, Franklin's offense produced a 3,000-yard passer (Freeman), 1,500-yard receiver (All-America wide receiver Jordy Nelson), and 1,000-yard rusher for the first time in school history.
Today, Freeman and Nelson have found great success in the NFL. Freeman, a first round pick by Tampa Bay in 2009, was the starting quarterback for the Bucs from midway through the 2009 season until after the third game of the 2013 season when he was traded to Minnesota. Nelson grabbed a touchdown pass in the Green Bay Packers' 2011 victory in Super Bowl XLV, and has consistently been one of the NFL's top wide receivers the last three seasons.
 
Maybe he brought Donovan along knowing the OLine was going to be crap and he would have difficulty getting a top notch OC to come at first. Now that he has more of his recruits it's probably an easier sell. Donovan may have been a spot filler.
 
It was not pulled. He left before Friedgen was fired. He was a pretty good coordinator.

From his Vandy Bio:

Prior to accepting the Vanderbilt position, Franklin spent five seasons coordinating highly productive offensive units at the University of Maryland and Kansas State University. In his second stint at Maryland from 2008-10, Franklin served as offensive coordinator, and later added the title of assistant head coach at Maryland. In 2010, he helped the Terrapins to an impressive 9-4 turnaround. That season, Franklin's explosive offense averaged 32.2 points and topped 50 points in three games. Maryland redshirt freshman quarterback Danny O'Brien finished the 2010 season as one of the nation's most efficient signal callers, throwing for 2,438 yards, 22 touchdowns, and only eight interceptions while earning ACC Rookie of the Year honors. First team All-ACC receiver Torrey Smith, an eventual second round NFL pick, flourished under Franklin's system, finishing 2010 with 67 receptions, 1,055 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns.
Franklin also was offensive coordinator at Kansas State in 2006 and 2007 with the Wildcats ranking 20th in passing offense and 21st in scoring offense in his second season. He helped the Wildcats earn their first winning season in four years and a berth in the inaugural Texas Bowl. In 2006, Franklin focused on mentoring talented true freshman quarterback Josh Freeman. In 2007, Franklin's offense produced a 3,000-yard passer (Freeman), 1,500-yard receiver (All-America wide receiver Jordy Nelson), and 1,000-yard rusher for the first time in school history.
Today, Freeman and Nelson have found great success in the NFL. Freeman, a first round pick by Tampa Bay in 2009, was the starting quarterback for the Bucs from midway through the 2009 season until after the third game of the 2013 season when he was traded to Minnesota. Nelson grabbed a touchdown pass in the Green Bay Packers' 2011 victory in Super Bowl XLV, and has consistently been one of the NFL's top wide receivers the last three seasons.


It was pulled. Kevin Anderson told him that there was no way in hell that he was honoring the agreement that Debbie Yow made with him.
 
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