Ugh... Rick Butler is the Larry Nassar of girls volleyball [PLOT TWIST: Michigan State]
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Grooming, schmooming. Everyone knew exactly what he was doing.
CALL. THE. POLICE.
CALL. THE. POLICE.
"The lawsuit states that after allegations against Butler first became public in 1995, his wife, Cheryl, allegedly called an unnamed victim and threatened her to keep quiet. Cheryl Butler is also accused of helping conceal the abuse and lashing out on one of the accusers on Facebook."Grooming, schmooming. Everyone knew exactly what he was doing.
CALL. THE. POLICE.
Gymnastics, volleyball, swimming, are these guys everywhere? Next you're going to tell me child beauty pageants are suspect. I mean nothing weird about a little girl dancing to Pretty Woman, right?
I know that it is making me think. I have kids in club sports. Sometimes I sit there at practice an my mind wonders if this coach is doing this for the money and because he loves the sport or because of these horrible other reasons. I really don't want to think like that as the coach is a really nice guy, but as a parent, you have to start thinking that way. And then I remember a 'rumor' about one of the assistant coaches at the gym who all of a sudden was gone and it was said that he was getting to 'close' to some of the girls and they were not feeling comfortable around him. This was like 8 years ago and that really got me to thinking.
Dude, thanks for ruining my day.Gymnastics, volleyball, swimming, are these guys everywhere? Next you're going to tell me child beauty pageants are suspect. I mean nothing weird about a little girl dancing to Pretty Woman, right?
izzo knew. One of the victims called MSU and spoke to a guy that sounded like Izzo.
Wait, I thought this kind of stuff was only a Penn State problem. Isn't that why the media and everyone else wanted to burn down Penn State? I mean nothing of this nature EVER happens ANYWHERE but University Park, right?
This type of stuff is my absolute biggest fear for when my daughter grows up. But, it will also allow me to be much more alert to these types of things as well.
My God do some people disgust me. My daughter is only 7 months old, and this type of shit is already on my mind.... This world has too many F***ed up people
Don't know, but no one learned the right lesson from Sandusky. This kind of thing is a societal problem, not a local one to be dumped on an octogenarian football coach and his program, while the rest of the nation whistles past the graveyard.
Stand by your man.
The Hillary Clinton defense!
Silly you, Butler doesn't have lockers to slam in his bathroom.
There are also a lot of very good people.
While I cannot agree more, it is not the very good people I have to protect my daughter from
The video says no reports of abuse in the last 20 years. Anyone want to bet an adult beverage that with these ladies speaking out, there will be (rightfully) others coming forward with their abuse stories?
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Mine daughters are 12 and 8. We volunteer to help or at least hang around practices and other activities as much as possible without being overbearing. Becoming friends with other parents helps as well.
In general, being involved limits possibilities of something bad happening.
I found this interesting :
The lawsuits lists dozens of charges against the various defendants related to violation of civil rights, negligence and fraud. On Wednesday, the second amended complaint brought by Katherine Payne, Maureen Baum, Katherine Rasmussen, Melissa Imrie, Jane G2 Doe, and Jane G3 Doe accuse USA Gymnastics, Twistars, Geddert and Nassar of violating the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly known as RICO (18 United States Code §1964). The lawsuit alleges that through their actions, the defendants essentially formed an enterprise for mutual financial benefit and "engaged in racketeering activity to wit sex trafficking of children by fraud."
According to the complaint, "The purpose of the Enterprise in part was to create a system by which Defendant Nassar was enabled to engage in commercial sex acts with young gymnasts through a fraudulent representation that he was engaged in legitimate medical treatment. The Enterprise engaged in fraud by either knowingly or with reckless disregard of the truth, affirmatively representing to gymnasts and the public at large that Defendant Nassar was a competent and ethical physician."
Now WHY didn't our esteemed state attorney general TOM CORBETT & his porn-addled gunslingers FRANK FINA, COSTANZA & SHEETZ nail Second Mile with this?
Seems to me that Jerry and his pals Jack, Robert, Bruce and swinging sister Katherine formed an enterprise for mutual financial benefit and sex trafficking of children by fraud.
My God...someone filed a complaint!
"The lawsuit states that after allegations against Butler first became public in 1995, his wife, Cheryl, allegedly called an unnamed victim and threatened her to keep quiet. Cheryl Butler is also accused of helping conceal the abuse and lashing out on one of the accusers on Facebook."
From ChiTownLion;
So Michigan State volleyball coach Cathy George, MSU AD Mark Hollis & University president Lou Anna Simon were all directly made aware of Rick Bulter's history of child sexual abuse and did nothing. http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/04/michigan_state_kept_ties_to_co.html … And a MSU coach "discouraged victims from speaking out."
As I have posted before. Most, if not all, of these allegations and stories were kept quiet by those at MSU. Then the dam broke and the stories began to flow. So much covered up that was only "suspected" at one time.
This brings me back to the football and basketball programs. Likely because the respective coaches are more powerful than gymnastics and volleyball coaches, incidents may (will) not fully come to light. Call my a conspiracy thinker, but if all the gymnastics and volleyball were said to be untrue, then everything comes to light, is it not plausible the football and basketball programs were/are just as dirty and their times are coming?
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So Michigan State volleyball coach Cathy George, MSU AD Mark Hollis & University president Lou Anna Simon were all directly made aware of Rick Bulter's history of child sexual abuse and did nothing. http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/04/michigan_state_kept_ties_to_co.html … And a MSU coach "discouraged victims from speaking out."
As I have posted before. Most, if not all, of these allegations and stories were kept quiet by those at MSU. Then the dam broke and the stories began to flow. So much covered up that was only "suspected" at one time.
This brings me back to the football and basketball programs. Likely because the respective coaches are more powerful than gymnastics and volleyball coaches, incidents may (will) not fully come to light. Call my a conspiracy thinker, but if all the gymnastics and volleyball were said to be untrue, then everything comes to light, is it not plausible the football and basketball programs were/are just as dirty and their times are coming?
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I'm reading the msu board. They don't seem to give a shit about this and see it as a smear campaign as msu is not the only school that has recruited players from this guy. But really, why smear msu? They don't have a "Paterno" and it seems the media took all of about 15 minutes to forget anything ever happened there..
What none of them seem to know is that Rick Butler had a "special relationship" with Michigan State University and MSU protected Butler just as they did for Larry Nassar by discouraging victims from reporting:
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