You need to take a deeper dive into those numbers. Joe caught OSU at their lowest from the start of PSU’s Big10 inclusion. How’d Joe fare against Michigan in the same span? I recall almost a full decade of L’s. Joe was really good until 1994-1995, average from 1999 until catching lightning in a bottle in the mid 2000’s. I still think we’d be among the truly elite programs had his ego allowed him to retire in 2005.
Towards the end of the game Franklin was more animated than we've seen in quite some time.
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When Franklin is 8 games deep at 3-5 you will move the goal posts to 6-6 just like the rest of his apologists.
Both the 1983 and 1999 Paterno teams finished with better won loss records than Franklin's 2021 team.
Scoreboard.
Also, anyone citing the 4 dark years of Paterno to somehow bring him down to Frauds level is a joke. Paterno is one of the 4 greatest college football coaches of all time and Franklin is 67-32...33 after this Saturday
Most people think he stayed too long but his teams were very good from 2005-2011. The scandal was a setback but that's not what currently keeps us from being elite. In fact what Joe built is what gives us a chance to be elite.
I think we have a chance to beat MSU. 8-4 with a decent bowl game would be a lot better than 7-5 and the Pinstripe Bowl.
Now before we start blowing each other I'm cognizant of the fact it was Rutgers and Veilleux isn't the second coming of Joe Montana but make no mistake, the play of the young kids invigorated Franklin and the players, in turn, fed off him. So much so it portends good things for the start of next season. Prior to today I was writing Franklin off sometime next year because I believed he'd lost the team. But not anymore. So regardless of the outcome in East Lansing just play like today, take that momentum into a bowl game and win it! Then 2022 sets up nicely and not the 2-4 start I envisioned. Complement the passing game with some run blocking and we might just start out 4-2. I know that last part is a big ask but what the hey. Get the salt peter off the training table of the offensive line.
Credit Rutgers for playing balls-out today. If you don't think they were committed then you missed Schiano chewing @ss on the sidelines.
Thank you.
Yes, that was refreshing to see!
Paterno was old for the '99 game. Should not gave been coaching and yes I understand he was able to right the ship in '05 then had a strong season in '08. Congratulations you found a game from '83 when Paterno was relatively young and the team played flat. Is that it? He also did not have nearly the talent on that team that Franklin has assembled (and yes we will give your beloved James a big atta boy for being the best recruiter in the history of college football for assemblying all that talent as I am sure you think that is the case).
The Illinois game was a joke and you know it. No excuses. MSU in '17 and '18? '17 loss blew a playoff shot. I guess Sparty was great so nothing to see there. Don't compare Paterno to Franklin, come on.
Would love to see how Joe would have fared in the B10 during his prime of the '70's and '80's. Somehow I don't think either scUM or O$U would have been gifted Rose Bowl visits every year.
so Michigan St is going to be the ONLY team to beat us by more than 9 points this year? really?
MSU struggles mightily in pass defense - PSU's offensive strength is the pass.
Getting a lead over MSU negates their ability to be one dimensional and pound the ball on the ground.
OSU put on a clinic in how to demoralize and destroy Sparty. Let's hope PSU has enough left in the tank to be OSU-light next weekend.
Lions by 10.
Getting a lead over MSU negates their ability to be one dimensional and pound the ball on the ground.
OSU put on a clinic in how to demoralize and destroy Sparty. Let's hope PSU has enough left in the tank to be OSU-light next weekend.
Lions by 10.
The MSU game will come down to the play of the offensive line if PSU is to win. A need to run the football with some success and to protect the QB so the passing game can click. As usual this year, the defense will hold up its end of the bargain but the offense needs to eat clock and put up points…..I would estimate at least 3 TDS to win the game.
Correct that was when they were going to the big ten and took a bowl bid before the season started to guarantee big bowl $
Was that the game Blair Thomas got hurt early in? IIRC it was the Block Buster Bowl.
Every team is facing this. Franklin explained that the NCAA, because of Covid, let them keep a larger roster.
i will say it again...Franklin will really get into players faces (u could saying coaching them up) late in blowout games but early in games or when the game is still on the line he doesn't show that emotion/reaction to his starters...again he won't hesitate ripping young backup players but seems much more quiet and understanding with his veteran players...i would just like him to be more consistent is all throughout the game
Lol. Exaggerate much? Come talk to us when he starts “ripping” players at a Brian Kelly level.
i watch ever game till the very end and i watch his reactions to his starters vs backups...i understand u think i'm exaggerating and that's fine but i've seen a consistent pattern for years of this and it just seemed odd to me...we can agree to disagree
I don't know the 2022 Covid rules for eligibility. Does that mean kids that want to come back for an extra year don't count towards the 85 limit?
But that's not my point anyway. The thing that puts us over the 85 limit before early departures is the 26 we already have committed to the 2022 class.
