Surprise Team?
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Not sure if they're a "surprise" team yet, but Pitt seems improved.
That's one that came to mind. The other ones mentioned in this thread are good too. Others?
Second that Moore is really doing a nice job, also feel Pitt is recovering, just need to lay off the hookers. Seems like Virginia is having some nice success. On the other hand OKLAHOMA is a wreck and perennially top 10 Rutgets is going in the wrong direction. Alot of talent is going to waste.
Not a huge surprise but Oklahoma State is actually doing quite well even with all the injuries.
Edit: and now I see Gfeller might be hurt
Edit: and now I see Gfeller might be hurt
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UM.
Knocking off the Bucknuts in Columbus caught my attention.
Btw, for anyone watching the tOSU v UM match, were you flabbergasted at the lack of effort on Moore's part to go for tech fall or fall. Was surprised at his lackluster effort, especially with the dual on the line.
Knocking off the Bucknuts in Columbus caught my attention.
Btw, for anyone watching the tOSU v UM match, were you flabbergasted at the lack of effort on Moore's part to go for tech fall or fall. Was surprised at his lackluster effort, especially with the dual on the line.
It was actually Boo Lewallen. First match back and hurt the shoulder again. He’s now out for the year and Gfeller will be the guy at 149
I thought he was on empty also. I think Moore cuts a lot of weight and has problem in the 3rd.
Rasheed has to take it to him and hopefully gets to put a good ride on him.
I thought he gassed against Cassar last year.
That will be Bo Taking it to him. I was impressed with the Smith kid that wrestled in Campbell's spot, he's tough.
Maybe they'll climb to 5th in the 6 team ACC this year.
Utah Valley Wolverines
They beat Purdue by 17 (we beat Purdue by 20). They also kept it close against Wisconsin. They beat Rutgers easily, although based on Rutgers season guess that's nothing to brag about.
They beat Purdue by 17 (we beat Purdue by 20). They also kept it close against Wisconsin. They beat Rutgers easily, although based on Rutgers season guess that's nothing to brag about.
Perennial Top 10
Rutgers 22
Lowly
Michigan State 20
Rutgers 22
Lowly
Michigan State 20
He doesn't seem to enjoy going the distance. Saw they last year with Cassar. Keep the match going and it gets better with age vs. Moore. And, he is a hometown boy from a neighboring school district near our home in NC Ahia. Big fish in a small pond now discovering the joys of equal competition.
Perennial Top 10
Rutgers 22
Lowly
Michigan State 20
I love MSU wrestling..... at least I hope I love them enough to get tix to nationals.
My bad , it should be Bo.
Bo should push the issue and wear Moore down looking for something big later in match. I think Bo learned a lot his first couple of years on going big early in a match against a quality kid.
We all know what he did last year in the finals but that was a unigue counter on Martin.
George Mason has taken a big step in the right direction this year and has been recruiting very well (really doing well in PA).
Lol it is not. I just enjoy following the rise programs. Loch Haven, Princeton and some others were already said so figured I’d give a shout out to GM.Beck diggity is that you?
Recap
Schools mentioned, with their 2018 NCAA finish, along with their current InterMat and WrestleStat tournament rankings (InterMat first). Added two schools, UNI and Northwestern, as their current ranking is a good bit higher that their 2018 NCAA finish. Whether that makes them a "surprise" or not, you can make up your own minds.
Lock Haven: 2018 NCAA Finish - 16, Current Rankings - 21, 34
Wyoming: 2018 NCAA Finish - T17, Current Rankings - NR, 28
Pittsburgh: 2018 NCAA Finish - T31, Current Rankings - 24, 18
Iowa State: 2018 NCAA Finish - T45, Current Rankings - 22, 21
Wisconsin: 2018 NCAA Finish - T17, Current Rankings - 17, 16
Oklahoma St: 2018 NCAA Finish - T13, Current Rankings - 4, 2
Michigan: 2018 NCAA Finish - T4, Current Rankings - 5, 5
Princeton: 2018 NCAA Finish - 26, Current Rankings - 10, 7
Utah Valley: 2018 NCAA Finish - T43, Current Rankings - NR, 41
Campbell: 2018 NCAA Finish - T56, Current Rankings - NR, 53
George Mason: 2018 NCAA Finish - T56, Current Rankings - NR, 48
Virginia Tech: 2018 NCAA Finish - 8, Current Rankings - 15, 10
Purdue: 2018 NCAA Finish - T28, Current Rankings - NR, 44
UNI: 2018 NCAA Finish - T24, Current Rankings - 16, 8
Northwestern: 2018 NCAA Finish - T24, Current Rankings - 11, 14
2019 NCAA finishes obviously not yet in, so time will tell if any current "surprises" will play out as great years by the teams noted. Solely based on current rankings vs 2018 NCAA finish, Iowa State, Princeton, UNI, and Northwestern look to be the most improved, and Pittsburgh too. Oklahoma State appears so too, though they significantly underperformed at the Championships, so it's not quite the surprise as the other schools.
For those that are actually performing worse than their 2018 finish, Lock Haven, Virginia Tech, and Purdue are worth noting. The rest are in the ballpark of how they performed last season.
Schools mentioned, with their 2018 NCAA finish, along with their current InterMat and WrestleStat tournament rankings (InterMat first). Added two schools, UNI and Northwestern, as their current ranking is a good bit higher that their 2018 NCAA finish. Whether that makes them a "surprise" or not, you can make up your own minds.
Lock Haven: 2018 NCAA Finish - 16, Current Rankings - 21, 34
Wyoming: 2018 NCAA Finish - T17, Current Rankings - NR, 28
Pittsburgh: 2018 NCAA Finish - T31, Current Rankings - 24, 18
Iowa State: 2018 NCAA Finish - T45, Current Rankings - 22, 21
Wisconsin: 2018 NCAA Finish - T17, Current Rankings - 17, 16
Oklahoma St: 2018 NCAA Finish - T13, Current Rankings - 4, 2
Michigan: 2018 NCAA Finish - T4, Current Rankings - 5, 5
Princeton: 2018 NCAA Finish - 26, Current Rankings - 10, 7
Utah Valley: 2018 NCAA Finish - T43, Current Rankings - NR, 41
Campbell: 2018 NCAA Finish - T56, Current Rankings - NR, 53
George Mason: 2018 NCAA Finish - T56, Current Rankings - NR, 48
Virginia Tech: 2018 NCAA Finish - 8, Current Rankings - 15, 10
Purdue: 2018 NCAA Finish - T28, Current Rankings - NR, 44
UNI: 2018 NCAA Finish - T24, Current Rankings - 16, 8
Northwestern: 2018 NCAA Finish - T24, Current Rankings - 11, 14
2019 NCAA finishes obviously not yet in, so time will tell if any current "surprises" will play out as great years by the teams noted. Solely based on current rankings vs 2018 NCAA finish, Iowa State, Princeton, UNI, and Northwestern look to be the most improved, and Pittsburgh too. Oklahoma State appears so too, though they significantly underperformed at the Championships, so it's not quite the surprise as the other schools.
For those that are actually performing worse than their 2018 finish, Lock Haven, Virginia Tech, and Purdue are worth noting. The rest are in the ballpark of how they performed last season.
Disagree. Those other 57 teams outside the top-20 have dreams too. Cheering for your couple of guys that qualify, hope they over-achieve, helping their team move up that ladder. Helps with recruiting, etc. It's not just about the top-20, imo.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that those finishes aren't important. I only meant that finishing 45th one year and 33rd the next was not necessarily a measure of year-to-year improvement as it relates to the "surprise" topic of the thread.
