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FB Recruiting Six Penn State commits land in the final Rivals250 rankings for 2024

How many of these are early enrollees? Seems Top 250 kids could have an immediate impact.

The only one that may not is the TE at 210 lbs. Pretty light for TE.
 
How many of these are early enrollees? Seems Top 250 kids could have an immediate impact.

The only one that may not is the TE at 210 lbs. Pretty light for TE.


Play him at WR. Problem solved.



PS. He is listed 220+ on other sites. He can be over 230 when the season starts.
 
6 seems pretty much like a second tier result.

Is there a compilation of how many top 250 players the top programs each signed?

From my quick count, oh-high-ya had 11, Oregon had14, and Georgia had 19. The talent gap between PSU and the top teams seems to be getting wider, not narrower......
 
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I thought we had a guy that is an awesome recruiter? What a joke and people wonder why we can’t ever beat a good team
 
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When you look at the top 100 players PSU name does not come up as often as a fan would like. It’s pretty apparent that we are not able to land that type of talent as regular as a few programs.
 
When you look at the top 100 players PSU name does not come up as often as a fan would like. It’s pretty apparent that we are not able to land that type of talent as regular as a few programs.
When had that ever been a regular event? Tell me what year JoePa had top five recruiting classes?
 
When had that ever been a regular event? Tell me what year JoePa had top five recruiting classes?

We had real mojo after the 2016 and 2017 seasons. The 2018 class was elite. The 2019 class was arguably elite (on paper -- lots of busts in reality). Then things fell off when recruits saw that Franklin couldn't sustain what he did with Barkley's team.

There's no reason why we can't recruit top-10 classes with regularity. Zero. There's no structural reason why we can't. We fail to do so because national recruits don't see us as a national title contending program. That's fine if you're in the south surrounded by elite local talent. But for a northern or Midwestern team, you need to give southern recruits something to look at. And we're not winning big games.

We have the #14 total class. We were also #14 the year before. Good classes. But a clear step back from where we were and probably should be.
 
We had real mojo after the 2016 and 2017 seasons. The 2018 class was elite. The 2019 class was arguably elite (on paper -- lots of busts in reality). Then things fell off when recruits saw that Franklin couldn't sustain what he did with Barkley's team.

There's no reason why we can't recruit top-10 classes with regularity. Zero. There's no structural reason why we can't. We fail to do so because national recruits don't see us as a national title contending program. That's fine if you're in the south surrounded by elite local talent. But for a northern or Midwestern team, you need to give southern recruits something to look at. And we're not winning big games.

We have the #14 total class. We were also #14 the year before. Good classes. But a clear step back from where we were and probably should be.
What were the recruiting class rankings?
 
When had that ever been a regular event? Tell me what year JoePa had top five recruiting classes?
Sports Illustrate doesn't seem to agree with you.


And a class ranked as the best in the country that didn't get similar results.

 
What were the recruiting class rankings?
Per 247, we were #7 in 2018 and #3 in 2019. Although much lower in the 2019 composite. #3 was probably too high, in retrospect. But that class was loaded on paper. Elite talents on both offense and defense. And in both of those years, we were legitimately beating out OSU for recruits. Not something we're doing now.
 
When you look at the top 100 players PSU name does not come up as often as a fan would like. It’s pretty apparent that we are not able to land that type of talent as regular as a few programs.
Will Rhule fix that?
 
Simply put. Franklin can’t coach and can’t recruit. If we don’t get rid of him soon, we will be competing with the mediocre teams to make the top 40, not the top 12.
 
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Sports Illustrate doesn't seem to agree with you.


And a class ranked as the best in the country that didn't get similar results.

So? Never said we never had a top five class. But they were not a regular occurrence,
 
Per 247, we were #7 in 2018 and #3 in 2019. Although much lower in the 2019 composite. #3 was probably too high, in retrospect. But that class was loaded on paper. Elite talents on both offense and defense. And in both of those years, we were legitimately beating out OSU for recruits. Not something we're doing now.
2018 Meyers last year. May have affected recruiting for both of those years.
 
6 seems pretty much like a second tier result.

Is there a compilation of how many top 250 players the top programs each signed?

From my quick count, oh-high-ya had 11, Oregon had14, and Georgia had 19. The talent gap between PSU and the top teams seems to be getting wider, not narrower......
Same number as Michigan. Probably more than washington.
 
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6 seems pretty much like a second tier result.

Is there a compilation of how many top 250 players the top programs each signed?

From my quick count, oh-high-ya had 11, Oregon had14, and Georgia had 19. The talent gap between PSU and the top teams seems to be getting wider, not narrower......


Osu, Georgia and Oregon. Who are three teams who did not make the playoffs????
 
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Osu, Georgia and Oregon. Who are three teams who did not make the playoffs????
Those 3 will be much more likely to make future playoffs and actually win playoff games as compared to PSU. I'm not interested in who didn't make the playoffs in the past, I'm interested in how PSU can make future playoffs and win playoff games. But none of those three made this year's playoff either.
 
Those 3 will be much more likely to make future playoffs and actually win playoff games as compared to PSU. I'm not interested in who didn't make the playoffs in the past, I'm interested in how PSU can make future playoffs and win playoff games. But none of those three made this year's playoff either.
How do those three compare with Michigan and Washington?

Who do you have winning next year?
 
When you look at the top 100 players PSU name does not come up as often as a fan would like. It’s pretty apparent that we are not able to land that type of talent as regular as a few programs.
Do you mean the programs that generate more money with less alumni? Psu fans are willing to be mediocre.
 
Aren't you guys always crying about rivals rankings. Maybe you should use the 247 rankings that you claim are more accurate.

Rivals has Kari Jackson in the top 250. 247 has 23 psu recruits even or ahead of Jackson.
 
We had real mojo after the 2016 and 2017 seasons. The 2018 class was elite. The 2019 class was arguably elite (on paper -- lots of busts in reality). Then things fell off when recruits saw that Franklin couldn't sustain what he did with Barkley's team.

There's no reason why we can't recruit top-10 classes with regularity. Zero. There's no structural reason why we can't. We fail to do so because national recruits don't see us as a national title contending program. That's fine if you're in the south surrounded by elite local talent. But for a northern or Midwestern team, you need to give southern recruits something to look at. And we're not winning big games.

We have the #14 total class. We were also #14 the year before. Good classes. But a clear step back from where we were and probably should be.


There are multiple structural reason pSU does not consistently recruit top ten. Pennsylvania does not have that many recruits compared to states like Georgia, Texas, Florida and California. Psu also has less money.

Why is Michigan and Washington behind psu? Did they not win enough big games?
 
Same number as Michigan. Probably more than washington.
True but his point is the 14th ranked class last year and three 4* and four 3* so far this year might not be enough to get PSU to the next level.
 
True but his point is the 14th ranked class last year and three 4* and four 3* so far this year might not be enough to get PSU to the next level.
Or it might be enough.

Scouts are stiill changing the rankings of individual players. The actual experts who evaluate the players don't even know. Do you think we should even play next year or just give a trophy to the highest ranked team? Should Michigan send the trophy to Georgia?

WHo do you have winning next year?
 
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Rankings of an incoming recruiting class no longer tell the full story on talent levels.

The portal has become very important. Highly rated talent can leave a program at nearly all levels of experience. Example: Texas AM with a top rated class and then a big exodus.

On a more positive note, a good talent level can be greatly enhanced by specific gains at key positions with incoming transfers. This essentially is PSU's road to success -- good if not great high school recruiting supplemented by select additions and being able to retain the best current players.
 
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There's no reason why we can't recruit top-10 classes with regularity. Zero. There's no structural reason why we can't. We fail to do so because national recruits don't see us as a national title contending program. That's fine if you're in the south surrounded by elite local talent. But for a northern or Midwestern team, you need to give southern recruits something to look at. And we're not winning big games.
Says there's "no reason" we don't always have top 10 classes then proceeds to give several very valid reasons.
 
There is enough talent in this '24 class to beat OSU. The problem is for next year OSU has gone crazy with the portal and paid exorbitantly to keep their biggest stars so that widens the gap. I think our high school recruiting is close enough to them to beat them. Just look at the past few games vs them. We need better in-game coaching and a better passing game.
 
Sports Illustrate doesn't seem to agree with you.


And a class ranked as the best in the country that didn't get similar results.

Was it a regular event? Two years later in 1999 psu signed 10 commits and no QB. The ten had a few busts.
 
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