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Anyone getting concerned that he is looking very pedestrian? Of course OLine not doing him any favors. But goes down way too easy. Those who compared him to Saquon? Not even close.

Allen looks better. Can do more with less

Time for a change at the top.
 
Anyone getting concerned that he is looking very pedestrian? Of course OLine not doing him any favors. But goes down way too easy. Those who compared him to Saquon? Not even close.

Allen looks better. Can do more with less

Time for a change at the top.
No.
Refer to nonexistent OL. Keyvone Lee should start. He has the most experience running without an OL.
 
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Anyone getting concerned that he is looking very pedestrian? Of course OLine not doing him any favors. But goes down way too easy. Those who compared him to Saquon? Not even close.

Allen looks better. Can do more with less

Time for a change at the top.
Singleton needs time to develop. He is super talented but all flash, not unlike most highly rated true freshmen. Given him a year. He needs to add some good weight to his frame. He needs to learn how to block, something he has never done before. He needs to learn how to catch and run routes. So long as he puts the work in, he'll be fine in time. We are asking a heck of a lot out of a kid who likely got away with on talent alone in high school. In a previous era, he wouldn't have seen the field for two years. Remember that.
 
Singleton needs time to develop. He is super talented but all flash, not unlike most highly rated true freshmen. Given him a year. He needs to add some good weight to his frame. He needs to learn how to block, something he has never done before. He needs to learn how to catch and run routes. So long as he puts the work in, he'll be fine in time. We are asking a heck of a lot out of a kid who likely got away with on talent alone in high school. In a previous era, he wouldn't have seen the field for two years. Remember that.
Not to mention in a previous era, he would have had an OL in front of him.
 
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Anyone getting concerned that he is looking very pedestrian? Of course OLine not doing him any favors. But goes down way too easy. Those who compared him to Saquon? Not even close.

Allen looks better. Can do more with less

Time for a change at the top.

Singleton is not the problem. Think about it.

1) He is surrounded by a weak and soft offensive line.
2) He has a 6th year 24 year old QB who is not considered a passing threat by opponents thereby allowing opposing teams to stack the box.
3) He has an offense coordinator whose scheme is bland and predictable.
4) He has a head coach who continues to decide on bonehead 4th down attempts at the worst possible times which puts even more pressure on a tired defense.
 
Singleton is not the problem. Think about it.

1) He is surrounded by a weak and soft offensive line.
2) He has a 6th year 24 year old QB who is not considered a passing threat by opponents thereby allowing opposing teams to stack the box.
3) He has an offense coordinator whose scheme is bland and predictable.
4) He has a head coach who continues to decide on bonehead 4th down attempts at the worst possible times which puts even more pressure on a tired defense.
On #3 what is an OC supposed to do, with a horrendous QB and an avg. OL?
 
Anyone getting concerned that he is looking very pedestrian? Of course OLine not doing him any favors. But goes down way too easy. Those who compared him to Saquon? Not even close.

Allen looks better. Can do more with less

Time for a change at the top.
I have said for weeks that 13 is the better RB right now. Much of the reason is because of the competition he played with and against at IMG. He had to learn the nuances of the position

10 has the skills, but he is not yet a refined RB. He’s still playing HS football where he was the biggest and fastest on the field and could outrun everyone. His 3rd and 1 carry in the first series is an example. He has to put his head down and hit the play and move the pile, not allow his instincts to take him wide to try and run 30 yards to get 2.

10 is not unlike the story of Journey Brown at PSU. He had mad speed, but was not refined in his early years. He also had the time to learn while he sat behind a couple of very good RBs.
 
And getting trucked on that block will hopefully be like Jacobs getting brushed off by the Iowa fullback a few years ago and drive him to greatness.

Same thing happened to Brandon Short vs. Orlando Pace of OSU early in his career. Sometimes young players are going to look green- but it is the coaches job to not continually put them in deficit situations based on what they see in practice.

Football is more of a team spirt than the other stick and ball sports b/c of all the moving pieces engaged in a play at the same time. One screw up can make null and void all of the other positive execution.

I basketball a super star can carry a team on his back. Football doesn't work like that. I fear that Alken, Singleton and Allar could pick up more bad habits by playing right now, but given our performance yesterday I also think we might as well let them learn by experience.

In the end it is "the Jimmy's and Joe's" on the field. During our brief run from 2016-18 we came close to matching OSU but never had their level of talent. Solid coaching/ scheming should be able to make a difference in near equal situations.

Last year we played UM tough. Not so yesterday. What happened to each team in 1 year? Give credit to Michigan. Time for us to look into the mirror and man up vs. Minny.
 
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On #3 what is an OC supposed to do, with a horrendous QB and an avg. OL?
Incorporate a run into the playbook that isn’t a delayed handoff out of shotgun. Scheme up some runs to take advantage of the RBs’ strengths and the opponent’s weaknesses. Situationally rotate backs so that Allen or Lee can be in for short yardage scenarios.
 
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Incorporate a run into the playbook that isn’t a delayed handoff out of shotgun. Scheme up some runs to take advantage of the RBs’ strengths and the opponent’s weaknesses. Situationally rotate backs so that Allen or Lee can be in for short yardage scenarios.
Not gonna work when the entire D is pressing with 0 respect for the deep ball.
 
Anyone getting concerned that he is looking very pedestrian? Of course OLine not doing him any favors. But goes down way too easy. Those who compared him to Saquon? Not even close.

Allen looks better. Can do more with less

Time for a change at the top.
You hit on your main problem
 
On #3 what is an OC supposed to do, with a horrendous QB and an avg. OL?
Well since the OL blocked reasonably well on pass plays perhaps he might want to consider passing on early downs rather than running a predictable off tackle run on first down for little or no gain right after the defense held Michigan to FGs twice and was on the field the whole first quarter. He also might want to consider designed roll out pass plays like Michigan did yesterday. This ain’t rocket science.
 
Well since the OL blocked reasonably well on pass plays perhaps he might want to consider passing on early downs rather than running a predictable off tackle run on first down for little or no gain right after the defense held Michigan to FGs twice and was on the field the whole first quarter. He also might want to consider designed roll out pass plays like Michigan did yesterday. This ain’t rocket science.
Clifford cant throw on the run. Do you guys watch the games?
 
Incorporate a run into the playbook that isn’t a delayed handoff out of shotgun. Scheme up some runs to take advantage of the RBs’ strengths and the opponent’s weaknesses. Situationally rotate backs so that Allen or Lee can be in for short yardage scenarios.
We do go under center and do what you suggest.

I guess we like to pound on the OC, but KC and MY were considered good hires….and the results are the same. Lousy on 3rd down, OL isn’t nasty and game controlling.
This isn’t the OC.
 
You hit on your main problem
Can't blame the freshmen rbs,they need to be placed in a position to succeed. Northwestern wrote the playback on how to defend our running game; stack the box and force Clifford to pass. Our passion g game takes too long to develop. Need shorter quicker routes. Slants to the tight ends would help. Players play the game but the coaches had two weeks to fix our weakness and didn't. What adjustments did you see from the first half to the second half? This is on the coordinators and coaches.
 
Can't blame the freshmen rbs,they need to be placed in a position to succeed. Northwestern wrote the playback on how to defend our running game; stack the box and force Clifford to pass. Our passion g game takes too long to develop. Need shorter quicker routes. Slants to the tight ends would help. Players play the game but the coaches had two weeks to fix our weakness and didn't. What adjustments did you see from the first half to the second half? This is on the coordinators and coaches.
Why do we always blame the coaches when the team performs poorly? Heck they just recruited the players, instruct them in developmental techniques, are responsible for motivation, game preparedness and call the plays and formations. So surely we must continue to search elsewhere for the original culprits whomever they may be.
 
Anyone getting concerned that he is looking very pedestrian? Of course OLine not doing him any favors. But goes down way too easy. Those who compared him to Saquon? Not even close.

Allen looks better. Can do more with less

Time for a change at the top.
Yep...he does go down too easily...was apparent early in the season when he was getting all the kudos for his breakaway TD's. Good example is one of his KO returns Sat...UM kid just reached out with what looked like a feeble arm tackle and down he went. Shouldn't be that way...he's 6-0 and 220.
 
Singleton is not the problem. Think about it.

1) He is surrounded by a weak and soft offensive line.
2) He has a 6th year 24 year old QB who is not considered a passing threat by opponents thereby allowing opposing teams to stack the box.
3) He has an offense coordinator whose scheme is bland and predictable.
4) He has a head coach who continues to decide on bonehead 4th down attempts at the worst possible times which puts even more pressure on a tired defense.
None of which has much to do with the fact that when he's one-on-one with a defender, an arm tackle will bring him down every time.
 
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