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Does Harbaugh finally beat Meyer? Does Harbaugh finally lead the Wolverines to Indianapolis? Do the Buckeyes win it for perhaps Urban's last game at the Horseshoe?
I hear a voice as I typed that and I feel like I should add: Tune in Saturday. Same BAT time. Same BAT channel.
I’m hoping for a scenario where both are left out of the playoffs. So OSU to somehow look bad and win.
PSU recruits against both so I don’t see how either making the playoffs helps PSU.
It's almost like OSU was looking past Maryland to something else.Michigan will be up for this game and in my opinion beat OSU by a couple of TD's. I don't see a tight game at all. Last week OSU was very lucky to leave he state of Maryland with a W.
If both teams play well, Michigan should win by around 7. They're just a better team this year, but it is a rivalry game and anything can happen. But if Michigan loses, I won't be crying tears of sorrow for them.Does Harbaugh finally beat Meyer? Does Harbaugh finally lead the Wolverines to Indianapolis? Do the Buckeyes win it for perhaps Urban's last game at the Horseshoe?
I hear a voice as I typed that and I feel like I should add: Tune in Saturday. Same BAT time. Same BAT channel.
True, but UM has covered 4 of the past 5 years.Well.... UMich has been the underdog for most of the last 14 of these matchups
Ohio State 37–21
Ohio State (#9) 25–21
Ohio State (#1) 42–39
Ohio State (#7) 14–3
Ohio State (#10) 42–7
Ohio State (#9) 21–10
Ohio State (#12) 37–7
Michigan (#15) 40–34
Ohio State (#4) 26–21
Ohio State (#3) 42–41
Ohio State (#6) 42–28
Ohio State (#8) 42–13
Ohio State (#2) 30–272OT
Ohio State (#9) 31–20
Other than gamblers, why do people care if a team covers or not? Makes no matter to me if we win.True, but UM has covered 4 of the past 5 years.
against the spreadWell.... UMich has been the underdog for most of the last 14 of these matchups
Ohio State 37–21
Ohio State (#9) 25–21
Ohio State (#1) 42–39
Ohio State (#7) 14–3
Ohio State (#10) 42–7
Ohio State (#9) 21–10
Ohio State (#12) 37–7
Michigan (#15) 40–34
Ohio State (#4) 26–21
Ohio State (#3) 42–41
Ohio State (#6) 42–28
Ohio State (#8) 42–13
Ohio State (#2) 30–272OT
Ohio State (#9) 31–20
Because the topic of the thread includes the spread. You can start your own thread about who wins the game.Other than gamblers, why do people care if a team covers or not? Makes no matter to me if we win.
My question was in line with the topic of the thread. I asked about its significance, which I will say again is zero, nada, zilch unless you are betting on the game.Because the topic of the thread includes the spread. You can start your own thread about who wins the game.
K Howie. Have a super day.My question was in line with the topic of the thread. I asked about its significance, which I will say again is zero, nada, zilch unless you are betting on the game.
If I understand the contracts and rules correctly, the Rose is committed to take the B1G and P12 champions when they are not part of the CFP rotation. When the B1G or P12 champion is selected into the CFP, they take the next highest ranked member of the respective conference.It's not impossible.... but how do you see "PSU to the Rose Bowl"? as "just about a guarantee"
I've always thought the head to head argument gets a little over weighted. Purdue beat OSU by 29 head to head. Do they deserve a better bowl than OSU? No they don't. The rest of the season matters too. I see people making this mistake over and over on this board (not you slykens).If I understand the contracts and rules correctly, the Rose is committed to take the B1G and P12 champions when they are not part of the CFP rotation. When the B1G or P12 champion is selected into the CFP, they take the next highest ranked member of the respective conference.
The problem comes in if the committee choses to keep OSU above PSU after OSU loses to MICH. There is a reasonable argument to be made for it, 10-2 vs 9-3, head to head victory.
I think it's "just about a guarantee" because OSU is 10 and PSU is 12. If PSU wins and a couple of teams above PSU lose (certainly possible this weekend), they'd have to move OSU up after a loss to keep them above PSU.
I could be all wrong too but that's how I understand it right now.
I wouldn't say Michigan has more talent than OSU, it's hard to say, but as a team they are certainly playing better. Sometimes you can have a little less talent, but the pieces fit together well and your team is extraordinary.It would be a big time choke for Michigan to lose this year. They have more talent this year. But they were a superior team two years ago and blew it at the Shoe.
Thank you for the clarity. What I had read this morning was that it was automatically the next highest ranked member of the respective conference.Not how it works for the Rose Bowl (I pointed this out in an earlier thread on the topic - - - - and posted the link to the B10 / Rose Bowl "rules" on the topic. FWIW, I think the same applies for the other NY6 Bowls with "tie-ins"... but I haven't checked to make sure).
Does OSU's 29 point head to head loss to Purdue guarantee Purdue a better bowl? If you want to argue that OSU would have 2 losses versus PSU's 3, that would be the best argument.You know what they say about assuming?
Seriously though, if I were a betting man - and there were odds available on how that one would play out..... I'd probably put the mortgage money on OSU getting the nod - - - - and I really don't think PSU would have a strong argument to make.
9-3 vs 10-2... with a head-to-head loss.... just doesn't seem to cut it (especially when PSU's "eye test" has been just as crappy as OSU's over the last several weeks.)… no matter what some "committee" might say (and I also wouldn't rule out the "committee" being "persuaded" to keep OSU one spot ahead of PSU - - - - - just to insure things "look kosher" … seriously).
If I understand the contracts and rules correctly, the Rose is committed to take the B1G and P12 champions when they are not part of the CFP rotation. When the B1G or P12 champion is selected into the CFP, they take the next highest ranked member of the respective conference.
The problem comes in if the committee choses to keep OSU above PSU after OSU loses to MICH. There is a reasonable argument to be made for it, 10-2 vs 9-3, head to head victory.
I think it's "just about a guarantee" because OSU is 10 and PSU is 12. If PSU wins and a couple of teams above PSU lose (certainly possible this weekend), they'd have to move OSU up after a loss to keep them above PSU.
I could be all wrong too but that's how I understand it right now.
This is really my concern. The quote in the article you had posted says to me they intend to take the highest ranked team unless they really think they'll do a lot better money wise with the other. I would suggest PSU and OSU are on par for those purposes in this comparison. One positive is that Penn State is getting more love from the committee than from the AP or Coaches.(and I also wouldn't rule out the "committee" being "persuaded" to keep OSU one spot ahead of PSU - - - - - just to insure things "look kosher" … seriously).
Well, the committee supposedly watches the games. I don't think the other pollsters do.This is really my concern. The quote in the article you had posted says to me they intend to take the highest ranked team unless they really think they'll do a lot better money wise with the other. I would suggest PSU and OSU are on par for those purposes in this comparison. One positive is that Penn State is getting more love from the committee than from the AP or Coaches.
Osu wins again!Does Harbaugh finally beat Meyer? Does Harbaugh finally lead the Wolverines to Indianapolis? Do the Buckeyes win it for perhaps Urban's last game at the Horseshoe?
I hear a voice as I typed that and I feel like I should add: Tune in Saturday. Same BAT time. Same BAT channel.