And I don't think they should be taken to the bowl game if they opt out. If they are done - and I respect their decision to do so - their season is over. There is nothing they can contribute to the actual game.
Football Penn State defensive end Chop Robinson opts out of Peach Bowl
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I don't think DDS was more productive than CHOP and that is not minimizing DDS's play or potential.
How dare he skip a scrimmage to move on with his life and career?
Low character? lol
If you only want guys playing that are in you shouldn't watch any bowl game--no team is "all in"
You’re all wrong, here’s the correct answer.
All bowl games other than playoff bowl games are not meaningful for the selection of the National Championship. All non playoff bowl games are meaningful for the organizations that promote them, the players who play, and fans who attend or watch. Furthermore, the statistics complied and the won and lost records are officially recorded. Any opinion other than mine is irrelevant.
All bowl games other than playoff bowl games are not meaningful for the selection of the National Championship. All non playoff bowl games are meaningful for the organizations that promote them, the players who play, and fans who attend or watch. Furthermore, the statistics complied and the won and lost records are officially recorded. Any opinion other than mine is irrelevant.
DDS is a really good DE that plays with more strength than Chop. However, Chop's speed coming off the snap is one of the fastest I've ever seen.
Conference or non-Conference, for the players that are only showcasing theselves for the NFL there is no difference.
But fortunately for the fans some players actually enjoy playing the game to the extent that they will enjoy playing with their team mates in games up until their team has no additional games on the schedule.
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That’s going to go on your OFFICIAL permanent record young man.
They count sorta. It’s like missing the playoffs and the teams that miss have another game. It counts about that much.
Extra practice might actually be how they count the most with all the practice restrictions ncaa has.
Chop's a great player, but the D performed at a very high level without him for a couple games this year. Granted, the competition was not awesome.
I think the two other most likely opt-outs would be Olu and Kalen. Both would be tough to lose but not deal-breakers in terms of beating Ole Miss.
Hopefully we won't have another scenario like the Arkansas bowl game a couple years ago. Some of those opt-outs were honestly ridiculous...late-round draft picks who never played a game in the NFL.
Agreed. For guys who are purely "me first", they don't matter. For team guys, they do.
If it's not meaning for the National Championship it's not meaningful. Anything else is propaganda.
Love lanes ability to have fun with it
National championships are not going to get these players paid. They are dumb to play in those playoff games.
Or is it not possible to get hurt in playoff games? Hard to follow the insane logic...
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I'm not sure which is greater - the chances of suffering an injury in a bowl game so catastrophic as to materially affect a player's NFL career earnings, or the chances to win the lottery. But either way, I guess it is well worth it to bail on your team and not finish out your commitments.
After that concussion he had a few weeks ago, who seriously can argue this decision?
I miss the college football of old as much as anyone, but given what things are today…this is an easy call in his situation.
I miss the college football of old as much as anyone, but given what things are today…this is an easy call in his situation.
A playoff game is contending for a title which is why people play sports
A scrimmage is not
Bowl games are literally nothing but a reward a great, good, mediocre and sometimes awful (see Minnesota) season. If players want to skip it go that's great. Others get an opportunity!
Why do the Northwestern football players play sports? Or Florida International football players? Or Penn State basketball players? Should they all quit?
Who exactly is counting in an "official" capacity? And just because something is counted for one purpose, doesn't mean it "counts" for another. Conferences don't care about bowl outcomes. They only care about the participation check. It's an exhibition that results in a check mark in a statistical W/L column, but nothing else.
Each of those teams competes in a conference. NW has won their div and the B1G.
Just the nature of today's CF. The bowl games - outside of the Playoffs - are now 2nd rate and are on their way out - unfortunately.
Not surprising. As a fan I hate the opt outs but if I were in Chop's shoes I'd do the same thing. It's silly for him to risk injury in a game with almost team or individual upside when he's poised to make millions as a high draft pick.
I would feel differently had he not had a pretty serious concussion. Not For Long is what he should be focusing on right now. I don't blame him a bit for playing it safe. I hope he makes it into the 1st round.
I don't agree with opting out as it seems to let teammates, school and supporters down. When you're on a team, you're on the team for everything. Sorry, but that's how it should be. It seems that teammates and coaches and NFL teams don't seem to care, so that lessens my disdain a bit.
And out of the thousands of guys who played in bowl games, how many of them had career ending injuries?
Respectfully, nothing you said suggests they are not exhibitions. You literally called a bowl game a building block for the next season, which, and call me crazy, sounds a lot like blue/white.
They are exhibitions the same way a payday game is an exhibition. Sure, the W/L "counts" but it doesn't matter to anything.
But does the masters student or PhD candidate drop out to prepare for a career?I am old school and agree. Taking the counter position, you go to college to get a better career. I would never begrudge a kid in graduate school who quits before getting his masters or PhD because his dream job came a calling.
A good friend of mine always says "I am just a coin-operated monkey. You put in the coins and I'll bang the symbols".
Went out on a classy note. One of the good guys. Best of luck to him.
That is where the analogy ends. In this case, dropping out is preparing. Playing is risking.
Exactly. The risk is extremely low, so dance monkey. Dance for me! My being entertained is almost a guarantee (unless of course you suck) whereas an injury is hardly likely. So dance monkey, dance for me!
I get why he opts out. He does it because he can. In the current system it makes sense. We have reached a point in cfb that contracts are required which clearly spell out the requirements of the job.
The free agent aspect as well as
The rating system and the opt out ability of post season games is sad.Here old bowls are some. Scraps for you This system will take getting used to.Reminds me of young Frankenstein when he discovers the abnormal brain switch.
What could go wrong?
Just Kidding but maybe all the bowl game scores should come with asterisks.
Maybe you are using a different operational definition of "official" and "counts" than everyone else in the world but according to the NCAA they count.
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So if you think your opinion somehow carries more weight than the NCAA, I guess you can think that, but that's a pretty whacky assertion.
A more relevant question is ‘Out of the thousands of guys that played in bowl games, how many had injuries that affected their draft status?’
Dropping from 2nd round to 5th means a lot of money.
But that same injury could occur in game 12 against MSU. Or game 11 against Rutgers. Which, if you subscribe to some of the posters here, are games that do not matter because only games which affect the CFB championship game matter.
It just becomes a slippery slope of "either play or don't". I'm not making decisions for anyone, but I cannot imagine not playing if in their shoes.
totally agree. for us it in fun and games, entertainment. for them it is cold hard business.
the poster child is former Cowboys linebacker Jaylon Smith. He was projected as a top-five pick but got hurt in the Fiesta Bowl in 2016. He fell to 34 overall. UM's Jake Butt is another. That injury nagged him his entire NFL career. He fell from the second round to the 5th.
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