Trump was talking about ultraviolet light as a disinfectant. It's no surprise LaJolla is repeating another liberal hoax.
OT: USA COVID-19 Vaccination Updates
- Thread starter Tom McAndrew
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Who are taking up the majority of beds right now even though more are vaccinated?
The medical community is offering a different opinion than your own. They aren't waffling but then you want to blame them when people don’t follow their advice and fill up the beds or tell people not to come in because they have no where to put them. They aren't echoing what you stated about a 40 year old cutoff, but somehow someway you feel like you know better. I'm curious as to how or why you feel this magic cutoff of 40 or young adults exist, but the vast majority of MD's aren't echoing what you are saying? What is it that makes you feel this way? There has to be some real information out there you are getting that these Doctors are not.
Monoclonal antibodies were recommended when they were available and appropriate. You don't think big pharma would have manufactured millions of doses had they had capability, after all, aren't they a huge money-making opportunity.
I hate having to use other countries data but look at Ontario. I hope they can fix the technical issue and update the vaccination status cases by age group.
The quick story unvaxxed hospitalizations 24% unvaxxed population 12% ages 12+
covid-19.ontario.ca
The quick story unvaxxed hospitalizations 24% unvaxxed population 12% ages 12+
Dataset - Ontario Data Catalogue
I love how they bitch and moan about the limited supplies and insufficient use of MAB's, used via EUA and with potential side effects while bitching and moaning about vaccines used via EUA and with potential side effects.
Who would trust accomplished and respected PhD scientists who have had long and decorated scientific careers? I would.
And you had to either pretty sick to get them or have some serious comorbidities to get any such treatment.
Please explain the medical reasoning for what you state above.
Yes, mRNA and traditional flu vaccines work differently. But they both accomplish the same thing (enhanced immune response).
There is no medical reason (that I am aware of) to suspect that mRNA boosters wouldn't be perfectly fine.
But even if you have some weird fear of science and need decades of field data before accepting a treatment, you can get J&J. Exactly the same tech as traditional vaccines.
This is not a mandate. No one is forcing these people to get vaccines. They are free to quit their jobs.
I learned along time ago you cannot argue with a brainwashed left or right narcissist. He’s narrow minded and incapable of seeing past his own nose. Much like you I hit the block button.
The J$J is not a traditional vaccine. Most vaccines are made of destroyed or inactivated viruses or bacteria that cause the disease. The J$J is the same as the Pfizer and Moderna expect that it uses es DNA instead of RNA.
Do you really think people here are talking to their own Doctor’s and they are being told it doesn’t help? I think this is people online saying one thing and doing the other. When they get sick, non Covid you watch how quickly that tune will change. We won’t hear those conversations of them telling their Neurologist or Cardiologist what they saw on YouTube or what Rogan said last night.
Thank you for sharing the paper. This is an interesting read.
Couple of things:
1) This appears to be a pre-print which means it was not peer reviewed. Did you share this version because it was shareable or is this the only version? If the former, can you please share the journal and publication date? If the latter, then we have to take this with a grain of salt (not peer reviewed).
2) This paper is looking specifically at the delta variant so we have no idea how applicable this is to omnicron.
3) This is also key: "Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant" (so everyone, even if previously infected, should get the vaccine).
4) Getting the virus to ensure protection against the virus is not a valid public health policy.
I honestly don't know. I hope not.
But people saying "I don't trust the CDC" are a little too far afield for me to have a rational conversation with.
Yes, the criteria were so broad they could give to almost anybody, except there wasn't the supply for almost anybody.
J&J is an adenovirus vaccine; same as tuberculosis. So this method has been used before. It is not new technology like mRNA.
This is not at all how I would describe this in that mRNA and DNA are very, very different things.
you need to check the emails between Fauci and the NIH
Emails reveal how Fauci, head of NIH colluded to try to smear experts
The emailsshow Fauci and Francis Collins attempting to coordinate a 'devastating takedown' of the Great Barrington Declaration, an alternate theory of prevention that abandoned lockdowns.
I would be fine if they offered real studies or information based on some real studies. Distrust of the government and its agencies has merit. You have whittle that all the way down to your own physicians whom you choose. Then you have the international medical community who appear to be on the same page. The fake confusion is self generated IMO.
Yes, mRNA and DNA are very different. But neither one uses the remnants of an entire virus so neither one have the broadband immune response of others. And that’s the reason why these later mutations are exempt from the vaccines. The shots are just too protein specific.
So, here in Centre county unless I am wrong, there is no physician on site to proscribe anything. Same goes for our house in Pittsburgh, I can get tested at the Spartan Pharmacy but they can’t proscribe anything. I have to go see my physician unless they set up some sort of triage type arrangement with a doctor on site I imagine. I don’t think it’s as easy as you make it out to be. I have been tested at the big testing sites and I am not aware that dispensing medical advice happens until test results are verified.
I doubt Tylenol or ibuprofen will do much for covid. Just a hunch.
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Well here is the video where he CLEARLY talks about the ultra violet light FIRST and then switches to the disinfectant.
"So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it's ultraviolet or just a very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn't been checked because of the testing," Trump said, speaking to Bryan during the briefing. "And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that, too."
He added: "I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."
The White House Spins Trump's Disinfectant Remarks - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump says he was being "sarcastic" when he mused about the possibility of injecting disinfectant into the body to kill COVID-19. You be the judge.
www.factcheck.org
I know Tucker doesn't tell you these things, but this one was on tape. You could have stuck with the it's sarcasm which they tried to run with. But just blame MSM for him saying that or failing to articulate a coherent thought. You see Doctor Birx look like a deer in headlights, but yeah...that is just MSM again.
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They bitch about that because after they have moved the goal posts as far as possible and they only have themselves to blame for the situation they are in they can‘t bring themselves to do it as they are brilliant after all. LOL.
Well......i had sore throat and cough and runny nose on Friday, got worse saturday, Sunday came the aches and started spiking a fever to 101 (never got tested for Covid as nowhere to test, but had all the symptoms). Decided to take a couple of Tylenol at about 2PM (for the fever and headache), by 3PM fever was gone, aches were gone, and felt much, much better.
Here's something I hadn't heard until a DR visit last week. Prednisone has a negative impact on Covid. She said the two had deadly consequences. I'm surprised that hasn't got more play.
Yes, I get that. I am more referencing folks that have not been vaccinated Or have a bad case of it though they were vaccinated. ( I know three that received MCA treatment ).
You are vaxxed, caught Omicron, had already read up in what to expect and took care of it. I am not referencing you.
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Up until the point that they showed themselves to be deceitful or incompetent, which we reached long ago.
I am for that as long as you have to show your BMI before buying Coke or ice cream or potato chips.
Every person I've known ( I know it doesn't count) were treated with Mucinex and cough medicine. Most were unvaxxed. This includes 19 year olds to 70 plus. Obese and perfectly healthy. Hell the one who got it from his vaxxed wife had 3 comorbidities and he was tired one day and had a bad cough. She had the exact same symptoms.
How many of 2021's deaths were from Omicron? Answer less than 10. If we are awash in MCA why did the administration start rationing them in the fall? You can't blame the year 2 failure on Omicron. Why wasn't something like Omicron anticipated? Why are we so short of N95's and test kits. It's not like EVERY freaking virus known to man doesn't mutate. While you are defending our one trick pony approach what is your explanation for ignoring natural immunity? It seemed to be the way out of every virus for the first 2900 of the last 3000 years?
I know. i was just shocked how well the Tylenol worked.
Symptoms started on Friday of New Years on December 31. Now on January 11, so 12 days in and still have a runny nose and general dry cough. Nothing of a big deal, just more annoying now for the past week. I think it is starting to break up and by end of the week that it is mostly gone. but assuming it was Covid, going to be 48 hours of not feeling very good followed by a week of minor symptoms.
Why is Diabetes contagious now? Is that a new side effect of Covid? Can you carry it and pass it on to anyone in the store with or without a mask or vaccine? You can do better.
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I thought we decided vaccines do very little to keep you from getting or spreading the virus and that it's main role albeit the most important role is to keep from serious infection and death. Correct? Only you and Dementia Joe would still say vaccines keep you from getting or spreading. You can do better.
I read hundreds of his posts before ignoring him. He can't do better.
Fauci and the CDC are not the same thing.you need to check the emails between Fauci and the NIH
Emails reveal how Fauci, head of NIH colluded to try to smear experts
The emailsshow Fauci and Francis Collins attempting to coordinate a 'devastating takedown' of the Great Barrington Declaration, an alternate theory of prevention that abandoned lockdowns.www.dailymail.co.uk
Really show me where I said you cannot get it or spread it if you are vaccinated? Oh wait, you cannot because you made that up because I made you look pretty dumb. Don't get mad, do better. You're just another person who got the vaccine because you wanted to play the correct odds (smart move), sits there each night with Foxnews listening to Tucker undermine it and then tows that line. Psssst, they are all vaccinated at Fox and if you want to go to their events....you will be too. Not everyone working there is over 40 either....so why would they force those people to give up their freedoms....they must hate America.
In fact you were the one that asked why they won't treat people until they are too sick not thinking that the medical community has stated to take the shot, that is all you. We are talking about hospitals getting full due to unvaccinated people,,,,,,you ran to diabetes. I get it. Where is your over under 40 data too to back your opinion over the Doctors....I'll bet that is coming up anytime now.
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I don't disagree with this.
My point was that J&J "tech" has been used before and isn't new. So if you are "scared" of mRNA (you shouldn't be) there is an alternative.
