It's not a question of relative credibility. If Buskirk was approached years ago to help fabricate a story, why is he just coming out now about it?
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It's not a question of relative credibility. If Buskirk was approached years ago to help fabricate a story, why is he just coming out now about it?
Neff seems like someone who would share his wealth. He was willing to give Chadd Buskirk a piece of the action. His wife also seems like she feels she is entitled to a chunk what he received. Glenn doesn't seem like he would be the best at managing his portfolio.
I don't believe Matt received a very large settlement. My understanding is that his settlement was one of the lower amounts and was in the low 6 figure range and around the same amount as the 70's accusers received. I don't think the BOT believed Matt or the 70's accusers and settled for the convenience of not having to go to trial.
sure they do, just verify they have full coverage insurance. They dont hand over the title to the check clears. If the check bounces, they arrest the guy who wrote the bad check.
The interview was over 2 years ago. I don't know the circumstances of how Ziegler came to interview Buskirk, but I am guessing that Neff wasn't real happy with it. If a friend asked you to corroborate a false allegation, I am not sure that the first thing that you would do would be to go to authorities or the media.
Still pretty stupid. Who knows what can happen top the car by then. Every time we've purchased a car the dealer requires a cashier's or certified check.
And Neff was paid when? If someone asks me to corroborate a story that is obviously part of a fraud I go to the authorities pronto.
I am guessing that car dealers in Lock Haven know some of the claimants in the Penn State settlements. I believe that the Lock Haven 5 (the 5 claimants from Lock Haven who received settlements) received aggregate settlement awards of around $30 million. I seem to recall reading that the Lock Haven 5 enjoyed nice cars, so it would not surprise me that car dealers would be willing to extend courtesies to these individuals. However, they also probably would not appreciate being fleeced.
Ironic that you don’t have more important things to do than to chime in on EVERY Sandusky-related thread.
I actually think the real connection and corruption is at the Hershey Foundation. There's about $6 billion reasons and a history of OAG complicity to motivate people to throw JVP and JS under the bus.
And those "more important things" are so important, I make sure I take the time to log into this football message board to tell you how unimportant this is.
I do my best to rile up the few remaining tinfoil hat members of the Free Jerry Club.
I have bought a ton of new cars over the years, and I have never needed a "cashier's or certified check". I always pay the full price at settlement. Every dealer I've ever worked with has always just accepted a check out of one of my Money Market Accounts.
That being said, maybe the dealer's should have been listening to John, Ray, and the rest of us that have been telling them for years that this whole thing was a bunch of crap set up by CorButt to destroy Penn State. Maybe then they would have known most of these guys that took the money are nothing but a bunch of freeloading crooks.
I believe you are underestimating the number of people who understand that something isn't entirely right about the whole Penn State/Sandusky scandal.
I believe it will become more apparent when Spanier's appeal in federal court is decided resulting in his exoneration as well as when Sandusky's appeal results in the new evidentiary hearings.
LOL
The first paragraph might be the most ridiculous thing you've ever written on here--and that includes attempting to fundraise on behalf of a convicted pedo.
You may not think that something is amiss in this story, but alot of people do.
Yes, Sandusky was convicted of CSA; but there were huge problems in the way he was convicted. His trial was patently unfair with serial acts of prosecutorial misconduct including a false grand jury presentment, grand jury leaks, Brady violations, conspiracies between the OAG and the Freeh group, juror misconduct, violating attorney-client privilege, and improper questioning by investigators and then lying about it. I believe that Sandusky is a victim of a miscarriage of justice and that the results of a new fair trial would be completely different from the first trial.
When oh when will we listen to the voice of reason.......like you.
It doesn't. But that won't stop people like JZ from presenting outlandish conclusions as facts. Sometimes JZ is no better than the Freeh team in terms of supporting his conclusions.
Of course his victims are of questionable character, the kids under the care of Second Mile in general will meet that criteria. Preying on those that come from challenging backgrounds and as a result have a sordid past was likely part of the MO from the beginning, they'd have no credibility to challenge Sandusky's golden reputation. If I'm not mistaken that was reported as a common tactic by pillar of the community predators.
So we agree that the accusers are of questionable character. What then, is the evidence upon which conviction stands?$$$$$$
Aren't these called "breach of trust" crimes? A bad check, a recent retail theft and the kind that renders oneself from working in a banking environment. There's another one from Clinton Co. that was paid with a fraud charge in process. But, why would anyone vet these claims?
Back when the accusations started flying, questioning anything was considered Pedo enabling.
As much as I do think Sandusky belongs behind bars, I knew back then there would be a big problem with "bearers of false witness" using the whole thing to their own ends.
As much as I do think Sandusky belongs behind bars, I knew back then there would be a big problem with "bearers of false witness" using the whole thing to their own ends.
He only has one play left, he needs to go to the authorities and exchange his testimony against the other "victims" and Shubin for immunity. Then be the first to write a tell-all book about how the whole thing was a scam he never wanted to along with, and just couldn't do anymore. The window to do this is coming to a close. He needs to do it before one of the other "victims" runs out of money and does it first, or before Sandusky gets a new trial and he ends up back on the stand getting torn to shreds by a competent attorney.
That I would imagine is because the cars were still under a full insurance umbrella that provided for same. Also if you’re a qualified potential buyer what do they have to lose? I’ve never been in the car business, but I’m pretty certain that not every bozo that walks on the lot gets to take a car home for a weekend test drive.
One of the high profile trial claimants is already on a monthly payment plan to the commonwealth for his legal troubles.
Same here. I've written personal checks as big as $12,000 and drove away with a new truck.
There was surprisingly low amount of direct evidence of Sandusky's guilt presented at trial. There was testimony of 8 alleged victims, the second-hand testimony of a janitor, and the star witness testimony of Mike McQueary.
The alleged victim testimony was largely uncorroborated. There was no physical evidence presented at trial. There was no evidence that there were any contemporaneous reports made to family, friends, teachers, psychologists, clergy, police, etc. The janitor evidence was suspect and, as stated by NCIS Special Agent John Snedden, Mike McQueary's testimony was simply not credible.
If Sandusky is fortunate enough for his current appeal to gain traction resulting in a new trial, it will be very interesting to see what sort of victim evidence the OAG will present. I think the OAG would be hard pressed to present strong victim evidence because it doesn't seem to me that there would be many alleged victims who would be able to withstand a rigorous cross examination by a competent defense counsel.
Yeah, but you are ignoring the fact that he was convicted because he's guilty, and he's guilty because he was convicted.
I am very familar with this line of reasoning. This is why it is so important for Sandusky's appeal to gain traction and for Superior Court to order evidentiary hearing. If there are evidentiary hearings, then the odds of Sandusky's appeal being successful go up dramatically. If not, Sandusky should go straight to Federal Court.
Francofan, check out the post I made in the thread about Outcry this AM, and it will give you a little back ground on the Showtime Documentary.
