Natural Immunity 27 Times Stronger than Vaccines

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Dr. Marty Makary, who supports vaccinations, and is a professor at John Hopkins, points out that natural immunity is 27 times stronger than vaccines. Then, why other than a Leftie desire to control and punish should people who can prove they had covid be forced to take the vaccine. See

"The new vaccine mandates inexplicably ignore the overwhelming science on natural immunity, resulting in damaged credibility by public health officials and possibly subjecting those already immune to the side effects the second vaccine dose that they may not need.

Employers and schools requiring vaccination should recognize natural immunity if they want to be science-based. Unfortunately our public health officials have been dismissive of natural immunity after digging into their position on this issue early. Recognizing natural immunity would go a long way in restoring the public trust in the public health officials." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...around-bidens-new-vaccine-mandates/ar-AAOiUSX

See also at about 2:05 https://rumble.com/vma99l-dr.-marty...s-of-an-israeli-study-on-natural-immunit.html
 

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After posting this, I realized that One very viable strategy to fight the virus is to give younger and healthier people the ability to catch the virus and have stronger immunity. With stronger immunity over time they would be less likely to give the virus to someone else.

Of course, any young person who wanted the virus would have the ability to get it. On the other hand, it should be in the discussion that one potentially viable long term strategy is to let people at very low risk get the virus and get stronger immunity for themselves and for the people around them.
 

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After posting this, I realized that One very viable strategy to fight the virus is to give younger and healthier people the ability to catch the virus and have stronger immunity. With stronger immunity over time they would be less likely to give the virus to someone else.

Of course, any young person who wanted the virus would have the ability to get it. On the other hand, it should be in the discussion that one potentially viable long term strategy is to let people at very low risk get the virus and get stronger immunity for themselves and for the people around them.

What a novel concept. Unfortunately, that doesn't deliver 10% to the Big Guy.
 
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Hold up....fauci said he's not to sure about natural immunity. What you need is boosters for life. And when you keep getting sick....get more boosters.

No, that's not what he said.

"I don't have an answer for that."
 
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After posting this, I realized that One very viable strategy to fight the virus is to give younger and healthier people the ability to catch the virus and have stronger immunity. With stronger immunity over time they would be less likely to give the virus to someone else.

Of course, any young person who wanted the virus would have the ability to get it. On the other hand, it should be in the discussion that one potentially viable long term strategy is to let people at very low risk get the virus and get stronger immunity for themselves and for the people around them.
Yeah that was discussed way back by one of the Stanford docs about protecting the vulnerable and basically speeding up the herd immunity.
 

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Last year, I advocated for all colleges to assemble their student bodies in an indoor setting and have a massive party with singing and dancing and sweating and anything else to get the virus out into all of them.

Now that we have the vaccine and the vast majority of susceptible people are vaccinated, I'm doubling down on this. Go have super spreaders. Let's get this thing over with.
 

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He definitely has that answer. And it definitely doesn't mesh well with "vaccines or bust"
 

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Yeah that was discussed way back by one of the Stanford docs about protecting the vulnerable and basically speeding up the herd immunity.

Well I'm confused. I got the shot. If I get the Delta variant it's highly likely that my symptoms will be very mild and then I will have both vaccine and natural immunity. I shouldn't need a damn booster they seem to keep pushing.
 

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Well I'm confused. I got the shot. If I get the Delta variant it's highly likely that my symptoms will be very mild and then I will have both vaccine and natural immunity. I shouldn't need a damn booster they seem to keep pushing.

Oh yes you will. You need the papers.
 
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After posting this, I realized that One very viable strategy to fight the virus is to give younger and healthier people the ability to catch the virus and have stronger immunity. With stronger immunity over time they would be less likely to give the virus to someone else.

Of course, any young person who wanted the virus would have the ability to get it. On the other hand, it should be in the discussion that one potentially viable long term strategy is to let people at very low risk get the virus and get stronger immunity for themselves and for the people around them.
Who remembers when parents had "measles parties"?

Same theory here. Not sure we should do it, but I've brought it up.

I've also suggested maybe a vaccine, then purposefully infect at the peak of vaccinated efficiency (say 2 months later).
 
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No, that's not what he said.

"I don't have an answer for that."
Your choice - is that because he's a liar or is it because he's an incompetent idiot.

It's like HCQ and Ivermectin - there's zero excuse for the government assholes to NOT know. We spend billions and billions paying for the salaries and pensions for these idiots to NOT have conducted trials that are OPEN AND TRANSPARENT.

Yet the sheeple give them a pass and defend them.

Baaaa. Baaaa.
 

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I do find it strange the Israel seems more invested into finding and publishing the science of Covid and Covid vaccines than the US. It's not even close. Sad thing is even our Administration seems to be relying on their publications, well except for the natural immunity studies.
 

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It's one hell of a circular argument the left has isn't it?
There is no circular argument. There is evolving knowledge and understanding of the virus , natural immunity and the vaccine. The vaccine is safe and effective. Not 100% effective, but effective. Why would ANYONE not do everything in their power to stay healthy?
 
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Ask the CDC why they aren't urging people to eat healthy and exercise then as a means to avoid serious covid if they do get it
Are you serious? Really? All medical and health organizations recommend a healthy diet and regular exercise.
 
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Dr. Marty Makary, who supports vaccinations, and is a professor at John Hopkins, points out that natural immunity is 27 times stronger than vaccines. Then, why other than a Leftie desire to control and punish should people who can prove they had covid be forced to take the vaccine. See

"The new vaccine mandates inexplicably ignore the overwhelming science on natural immunity, resulting in damaged credibility by public health officials and possibly subjecting those already immune to the side effects the second vaccine dose that they may not need.

Employers and schools requiring vaccination should recognize natural immunity if they want to be science-based. Unfortunately our public health officials have been dismissive of natural immunity after digging into their position on this issue early. Recognizing natural immunity would go a long way in restoring the public trust in the public health officials." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...around-bidens-new-vaccine-mandates/ar-AAOiUSX

See also at about 2:05 https://rumble.com/vma99l-dr.-marty...s-of-an-israeli-study-on-natural-immunit.html

LOL, WTF
 

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Stop spreading misinformation you shitbag
Here is Dr. Makary, a professor at John Hopkins talking about a massive gap in information notwithstanding $50 Billion federal budget and still no research on immunity. So, because of the Biden incompetence (I would call it fraud), he has to do his own research. See 2:53 in video

I will be awaiting your federal studies on natural immunity.
 

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Here is Dr. Makary, a professor at John Hopkins talking about a massive gap in information notwithstanding $50 Billion federal budget and still no research on immunity. So, because of the Biden incompetence (I would call it fraud), he has to do his own research. See 2:53 in video

I will be awaiting your federal studies on natural immunity.

Like I said, STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION

And btw, he’s a GI doctor dumbass.
 

dailybuck777

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Like I said, STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION

And btw, he’s a GI doctor dumbass.
He is doing a simple study dumbass, which the feds are too corrupt to do. He also teaches public health policy at John Hopkins. Still waiting for your CDC study on natural immunity.
 
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He is doing a simple study dumbass, which the feds are too corrupt to do. He also teaches public health policy at John Hopkins. Still waiting for your CDC study on natural immunity.

The CDC has published tons of research on natural immunity. Do some god damn due diligence
 
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I guess Makary is totally ignorant then. If CDC has done tons, it should be easy for you to find.
The cdc actually admitted a few weeks ago that they haven’t even been collecting data on naturally immune getting reinfected etc….(probably because they want plausible deniability). This should be a major red flag for people to start questioning whether or not some of these ABC agencies are captured by big pharma.

They do nothing but push these shots and dont care about anything else. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
 

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There is no circular argument. There is evolving knowledge and understanding of the virus , natural immunity and the vaccine. The vaccine is safe and effective. Not 100% effective, but effective. Why would ANYONE not do everything in their power to stay healthy?
My body my choice ring a bell? This is even worse banning a medical procedure is not the same as forcing one. BTW until you can guarantee their will be no adverse effects you can not guarantee safety. So what does our government do? They change the rules by not forcing rlemployers to report work related illness...what does that tell you?
 

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The unvaxxed should have to pay at least an extra $200 per month on their health insurance premiums. Giving the unvaxxed a free ride is just another example of socialism in the US. They need to pay for their stupidity.
 
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