Or maybe some fans don’t know as much as they think they do.
I posted a video the other day explaining why it’s the right strategy, and giving an example where it worked as intended for Mike McCarthy.
Going for two in that situation is at best (least?) questionable. Going for two in the first half down 14-9 is not.
Always remember, according to AWS1022, PSU football coaches make a lot of money and are beyond question, but PSU basketball coaches make a lot of money and should be questioned at every decision 🙄🙄
As long as the people questioning them don’t actually think they know more than the coaches. But we have many posters on here who seem to think they are smarter than almost every coach in college and the NFL.
He was down 16 when they scored not 11 and it wasn't the first half. And it still was questionable
It looks great if you make the first two pt conversion because then you only need to recover an on sides kick then kick an EP to tie. So great.
I don’t believe coaches think that way…they think like they are going to make it (whether it’s going for two or going for it on fourth down), they believe their team can do it, so that’s how they make their decisions.
I’m old school and don’t like it but it’s what they do anymore. Like not taking points and going for it in fourth all the time. Nfl old coaches must cringe
This isn't true. Down 14-3 in the first half most coaches still kick the XP. Analytics isn't just reading a chart...it's understanding when to apply it.
Come on, man. That was with 5:02 left and their timeouts. Hugely different situation.
Most of these coaches just read the chart unfortunately. I said I don’t agree with it but it’s football we live with now
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There's a big difference. Detroit missed a kick earlier, making the odds of a kick succeeding lower than normal. PATs are normally automatic, but once you miss one in a game another is more likely IMO. Detroit had already succeeded on a 2-point try before the second TD, making the odds of making another one somewhat higher than normal. PSU was down 9 because they missed a 2-point try earlier, making the odds of a 2-point conversion even lower than normal.
You’re putting way too much stock into those misses/successes impacting the next try…the events are way more independent than that.
At that point, you need three things to tie the game: another touchdown, an extra point and a two point conversion. No matter what order you do it in, missing the two point conversion means you will need a second touchdown. So if you miss it now, then at least you know it sooner rather than later.
Not sure at what point you are referring to.
Hmmm…..I guess you couldn’t come to the conclusion on your own that it was a bad decision given the final outcome of the game??? I suppose now we are to take moral victories from other coaches making the same decisions as JF which ultimately lead to the same outcome….a loss? But that’s okay, because other people did it and the same outcome was achieved it must not be too bad of an idea….right?? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
The decision was just as stupid as when Franklin did it. The game was over if they didn't make it.
I'm referring to the point at which you just scored a TD, you're down by 9, and you need to decide between PAT or going for two. The risk you describe is there no matter what. If you kick the PAT, then after the next TD, you HAVE TO go for two. And if you miss it, you're dead in the water.
You can try to spin it however you want, but it was the same situation regardless of how they got there. One could say that PSU had a better shot of making it because they failed on the first attempt based on percentages. The main difference is Detroit made it, had we made it there wouldn’t be nearly the complaining about it…hindsight coaching is easy.
That’s what you got out of it? You made my point that making decisions after the fact is easy to do which is what all the bots coaching geniuses do. My post was pointing out that many coaches would make the same decision….after Franklin did it many on here stated it was the dumbest coaching decision ever and no other coach would do it. Yesterday shows that’s not true, just because you disagree with it doesnt mean it’s the dumbest decision ever.
So you’re saying if he would have kicked the extra point, they would have went on to win the game?
