BOB also YELLED at Brady for not following directions.
BOB will be let go by years end this year.
LB recruiting and misses
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BOB also YELLED at Brady for not following directions.
BOB will be let go by years end this year.
You know what a lot of these guys have in common is there were running backs as well in high school so had the toughness and understanding how to go against the run.
The old guy from
Brooklyn used to recruit qb’s and make them linebackers, ends, defensive ends, wide receivers, etc.
Brooklyn used to recruit qb’s and make them linebackers, ends, defensive ends, wide receivers, etc.
That might be a little premature. I would say two years. The problem is THIS year.
THe staff did not put enough emphasis on the position until recently. PSU will have great LBs in the future but up until this year they were more interested in athletes than actual LBs with experience and LB skills. I think they learned their lesson but it will take a little time to get up to speed.
I think we have had 3 walk ons start at LB since JF arrived. I can't think of any at QB, DT, WR, CB, S, and RB combined.
I agree with you on this. They hit that one TD pass off a blitz with 2 guys coming from the secondary on a Blitz with the MLB covering the inside receiver. Either that was a blown D, or it was a D poorly drawn up (and we ran it twice in the game so I think it was the later)
We do seem to have alot of paralyze by analysis. cut down the thinking and let them play.
yea, but it also happens to guys that have played the position, some pick things up quickly others dont. Dont slow these guys down by making them think.
Best LBer coach at PSU not named Dan Radakovich.....https://athletics.westminster.edu/coaches.aspx?rc=179&path=football
Many of our LBs are learning a new position. Notice how many of the top LBs the last 6 years where guys who played the position when they signed? I think it is true for most of the positions. They players who play their original positions also get on the field sooner.
If you don't want to make them think then don't put them in a new position and make them play early. Instincts don't happen overnight.
I don't know if he was the best I've ever seen but he was very, very good and probably the best PSU has ever had.
In an interview, Pry said he likes ro move guys “ up “ a position. This is done in hopes of retaining speed.
Examples on the current roster would be Jarvis Miller at LB, and Nick Tarburton at DE.
JMO and I get what Pry and many others like about doing that but the problem is it takes time to develop that player, if it happens at all.
Sadly its been a fail as far as both Koa and Cam go. Cam is getting better but I've given up on Koa.
I would rather see us try and do that with a player or 2 but recruit DT to be DT's and LB'r to be Lbr's.
I think you see the last gasp of the sanctions affecting our DT's and LB'rs. After this recruiting class we will not be re-building any longer.
that aint the thinking I am talking about, I am talking about the thinking any LBer has on a particular play like, ...
Adjustments? What do I do vs 1 back? vs 2 back? vs no back? Vs 2 TE's vs 4 quicks? vs motion
pass? am I in Man or Zone, who is my man, where is my zone, are we in Man under? Do I bump vs motion or stay with my man?
Run? What is my fit on run to, run away, play action?
Option? who do I have? RB? QB? Pitch?
Blitz what are my responsibilities? do I go? or do I just play? do we check off in certain situations? Do we check to another blitz vs certain formations
Goal line? where do I line up/
Sub? 3 man line where do I line up? (Farmer lined up as a DT in our 3 man line vs Illinois)
just a few off the top of my head of what they think about, and this is all before the ball is snapped!
Right. Problem is Mauti, Hull, Carson, Bell, Wartman, Cabinda > Miller and Farmer.
Pry wants speed but we need someone who runs the right direction and makes tackle. Why do you think Brandon Smith was playing? I doubt it was his speed
In fairness they did have at least 5 DTs decommit since 2014 and also missed on wilkins who was a top target.
LB on the other hand they did not emphasize until recently. They learned and PSU will be much better at LB going forward
Agree. Speed does not substitute for instincts. Ideally, you want both, but not everybody is like Poz and Connor and Lee and Bowman and Mauti etc.
There are "athletes" then there are "football players"
Sure Art will find a way to RIP me on this.
I seem to recall Lavar overplaying and being out of position as a freshman too
It is a minor setback. We are still light years ahead of where we would be if we listened to the fans who wanted to hire Jay or Golden.
It's natural for frosh and first year starters to be out of place. Even if they know better they often let emotions get to them....it's part of growing up on the field. The fact that this many frosh and RS frosh are making contributions bodes well for the future of this program.
Pretty sure they did this out of necessity rather than strategy. Get as many athletic kids in as quickly as possible to fill out the decimated roster. I'd say it worked out very well as it made them competitive and opened the door for the elite talent with no downsides of the past couple classes.
A super big yes to this! Our memories are short. O'Brien, then Franklin, had to make critical decisions about building a team where outside of themselves, and the players and families they were recruiting, no one had any faith. Where Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, etc., were having top ranked recruiting classes and we were on the cusp of our SMU existential moment. Of course they had to take chances and experiment, and strategize, and it was not going to be perfect.
We act as though the trajectory of where we are today was based on a normal typical team building journey. We act as though our success and where we stand at this moment was a given and a right. We forget that based on the dreams of those inside and outside the University who tried to destroy it we're suppose to be dead, not in the B1G Championship and CFP conversation. This team and coaches have fought like dogs over the past 5 years to earn this gift, even as Franklin continues to say publically, we're not where he wants us or need to be. Yet, here we are. What do we do with that? Either we will win this Saturday or we won't, but let's enjoy the gift. Rant over.
Not to mention the coaching staff previously had to recruit at Vandy, not on many top recruits top 5. Previous recruiting experience there may have influenced their recruiting strategies at the beginning of their time at PSU.
