Kentucky vs Florida game was on SEC today
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I will say that overall, your fan base doesn’t have a great knowledge of football. In fact, I’m heading to church here in a couple of minutes to save seats for the 4:00 Christmas mass and will discuss this game with about 40 different people. Funny thing is, I have to convince most people I talk to down here that UK has a legit chance in the game because they see Penn State vs. UK and assume it is an uneven matchup. I do like this UK team. Tough, disciplined football.
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Just because we’ve sucked for years doesn’t mean our fanbase doesn’t know football. There’s a lot of UK fans that are football first and have been through the roughest seasons imaginable. We don’t have any history comparable to penn state and that’s why most people talk about us the way they do. That’s fine. I’m Not here to look for validation that we have a good football team. Just to talk football. Merry Christmas to you too.
I admitted I was wrong. It was just Michigan. However, you didn’t beat anyone either, and got beat by Sparty. Which is a bad loss. We got beat by Tennessee which is a bad loss as well.
Just because we’ve sucked for years doesn’t mean our fanbase doesn’t know football. There’s a lot of UK fans that are football first and have been through the roughest seasons imaginable. We don’t have any history comparable to penn state and that’s why most people talk about us the way they do. That’s fine. I’m Not here to look for validation that we have a good football team. Just to talk football. Merry Christmas to you too.[/QUOTE]
I’m not saying the fan base doesn’t know football because the football team has sucked for years. I’m saying it because I live here and people (not all, but many) just don’t really seem to get the intricacies of the game.
After the selection show I went back and watched some. I probably will watch more here in the next few days since I have time. How much UK football have you watched?
I already said, I have seen at least parts of every game. And I have also already said, this is a really strong UK team that is in pretty equal footing with Penn State. Most perceived difference is from looking at the names of the teams playing.
Again, you guys missed playing two of the best defenses in the SEC. The more you write, the more you come across as one of those programmed fans. "SEC is the best; everything else sucks."
And very doubtful on the if we had Snell comment. We had Barkley last year. Still threw the ball. Big question is, what will Wilson look like without Snell next year?
I like your here to talk football but don't go throwing around things, at least over here that dont stick. For instanceA We threw the ball 454 times in 2017 with Sauquon Barkley in the backfield. So I don't think Snell (who I think is good) would have changed anything. We also had some damn good WR's, 2 of which are playing in the pros right now.
We threw the ball 329 this year. So your point is moot
Soft defenses? We played OSU, MSU and Michigan not soft at all.
Please talk football but don't make up stuff.
Edit: actually I take some of that back. If Snell was as good as Barkley out of the backfield maybe would would have passed more.
Aside from the "boat raced by a few teams" the kyhunter guy hasn't really said anything bad/wrong.
I’m not an SEC fan at all. I don’t ride the coattails of the conference. They’ve done nothing buck kick our ass.
Honestly I think our team will be better without Snell. We had to concentrate our offense around him which put us behind the chains a lot. I’ll be happy to see the production spread around the field next year rather than just in Benny’s hands.
If Snell was in the PSU backfield, there's a good chance he'd be playing behind Miles Sanders.
His "theory" of us throwing less if Snell was in our backfield is wrong.
Us playing soft defense is wrong....
Our coaches play different styles of football. I probably was wrong about passing numbers if you had snell. Outside of the top 3 the defenses you played were not great.
Isn't the theory on this board the worse our RB is the more carries they get because the D won't key on them? So, he may be right depending on who you think is better Snell or Miles...
Depends what games he's watched. If he watched the first half of the season or the Michigan game then I understand why he made the "soft defense" comment.
I think the comment was intended to be that we played against soft defenses. Not rock solid SEC defenses.
Whatever happened to 78Sweetrevenge? That guy was great.
if so, then I agree that was a foolish comment. We're not in the Big XII or Pac XII
We've played the number 1, number 6, number 7 and number 14 NCAA teams in total defense.. and none of them were Ohio State. Anyway.. we'll play you next week and see how things go. A healthy Trace McSorley and a defense that has been improving all season will be ready to finish on a good note.
And 3.5 against South Carolina, 5.0 against Murray State, 3.5 against Missouri, 4.1 against Tennessee who everyone beat up on, and only 4.5 against Middle Tennessee, whoever they are.....
If he is pushing forward for 3-4 yards on every carry and he had multiple games against so so teams where he averaged 3.5 ypc, then either his OL didn't create any holes against those so so teams or he has trouble finding the holes....
Season:
2018 GAME LOG RUSHING RECEIVING
DATE OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD
9/1 Central Michigan W 35-20 20 125 6.3 52 2 1 7 7.0 7 0
9/8 @Florida W 27-16 27 175 6.5 44 0 2 8 4.0 4 0
9/15 Murray State W 48-10 15 75 5.0 17 1 0 0 0.0 0 0
9/22 Mississippi State W 28-7 25 165 6.6 36 4 0 0 0.0 0 0
9/29 South Carolina W 24-10 28 99 3.5 16 1 1 14 14.0 14 0
10/6 @Texas A&M L 20-14 (OT) 13 60 4.6 11 0 4 18 4.5 12 0
10/20 Vanderbilt W 14-7 32 169 5.3 22 1 0 0 0.0 0 0
10/27 @Missouri W 15-14 19 67 3.5 15 0 2 28 14.0 28 0
11/3 Georgia L 34-17 20 73 3.7 11 1 1 5 5.0 5 0
11/10 @Tennessee L 24-7 20 81 4.1 19 0 6 25 4.2 8 0
11/17 Middle Tennessee W 34-23 26 116 4.5 17 2 0 0 0.0 0 0
11/24 @Louisville W 56-10 18 100 5.6 24 2 0 0 0.0 0
Why are you posting in a thread discussing a meaningless game.?
True, his numbers ebbed and flowed from game to game....like Saquan's did throughout his career. The point being (if it wasn't already obvious) he's had a very good season and he's a good back. If people have difficulty coming to grips with this, so be it.
For the twentieth time, just because the game has no meaning (which it doesn't) I'm still going to watch it because I enjoy football. I don't care if we win or lose as it will have impact on the way I view this season. 2 games matter. Alabama-Oklahoma & Clemson-Notre Dame. Hopefully one day in the near future we can play in one of those games.
It's not a matter of coming to grips. UK rode him and won games. But his numbers are not outstanding. A 5.0 ypc is not outstanding. Sanders beat that by a considerable margin, and most PSU fans were not totally enamored by PSU's running game this season, although it was better statistically than some recent years when PSU had the current once in a decade NFL rookie RB.
The point is that UK's running game is not outstanding even with a future NFL draft choice at RB, and it was pretty much shut down by a couple defenses that may or may not be even as good as PSU's.
And of the top 30 NCAA rushing leaders he is only tied for 26th in YPC. 82 yards more than Miles Sanders on 56 additional carries. Only 3 of the top 30 had a worse YPC. Some here are making Snell out to be a clone of Jonathan Taylor who averaged 7.1 YPC for the season..... oh wait, PSU beat Wisconsin pretty convincingly.....
RANK PLAYER TEAM ATT YDS YDS/ATT YDS/GAME TDS
1 Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin 280 1989 7.1 165.8 15
2 Darrell Henderson Memphis 214 1909 8.9 146.8 22
3 Eno Benjamin Arizona State 300 1642 5.5 126.3 16
4 Trayveon Williams Texas A&M 252 1524 6.0 127.0 15
5 Travis Etienne Clemson 176 1463 8.3 112.5 21
6 J.J. Taylor Arizona 255 1434 5.6 119.5 6
7 Alexander Mattison Boise State 302 1415 4.7 108.8 17
8 Jermar Jefferson Oregon State 239 1380 5.8 115.0 12
9 Alex Barnes Kansas State 256 1355 5.3 112.9 12
10 Devin Singletary Florida Atlantic 261 1348 5.2 112.3 22
11 Nico Evans Wyoming 204 1325 6.5 132.5 8
12 A.J. Ouellette Ohio 213 1306 6.1 100.5 12
13 Benny Snell Kentucky 263 1305 5.0 108.8 14
14 Joshua Kelley UCLA 225 1243 5.5 113.0 12
15 Benny LeMay Charlotte 232 1243 5.4 103.6 11
16 Spencer Brown UAB 273 1230 4.5 87.9 16
17 LeVante Bellamy Western Michigan 205 1228 6.0 94.5 6
18 Miles Sanders Penn State 207 1223 5.9 101.9 9
19 Qadree Ollison Pittsburgh 189 1190 6.3 91.5 11
20 Darrynton Evans Appalachian State 179 1187 6.6 91.3 7
21 B.J. Smith Troy 219 1186 5.4 91.2 13
22 Trey Ragas Louisiana 207 1181 5.7 84.4 8
23 Karan Higdon Michigan 224 1178 5.3 107.1 10
24 Michael Warren II Cincinnati 224 1163 5.2 105.7 17
25 Myles Gaskin Washington 235 1147 4.9 104.3 10
26 David Pindell Connecticut 212 1139 5.4 94.9 10
27 Stevie Scott Indiana 228 1137 5.0 94.8 10
28 Darius Bradwell Tulane 201 1134 5.6 87.2 11
29 Jake Yurachek Colorado 161 1125 7.0 102.3 7
30 Patrick Taylor Jr. Memphis 208 1122 5.4 80.1 16
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Yes, he had a good year. But it wasn't impressive.
He had 100+ 3 times in his last 8 games after going 100+ 3 out of his first 4. And those last 3 came vs. Vandy, Middle Tennessee and Louisville.
He was an AP 3rd team All-American selection. To say he wasn't impressive isn't fair to the kid. He was consistent all year. He's not a guy that rips off 20+ yard runs so his YPC aren't going to be out of this world but he's a very good college back that was definitely impressive and has been during his career.
Honestly, saying he's not impressive is like people saying Trace didn't have a great year in 2018. Look past the numbers and factor in everything.
Your opinion of what is meaningless is meaningless.
kyhunter110, don't let these heathens scare you off. I think you've been nothing but respectful in this thread (the only one i've seen with you in it). you've just said things that a select portion of this forum disagree with. Don't take it personally, most of them get super defensive when someone says something they disagree with.
- Snell is a very good RB and can cause fits, but so can Miles Sanders
- Dual threat QBs are scary whoever they are
- Kentucky has a higher ranked D in average stats (Rushing D, Scoring D, total D) Penn State has a higher ranked D in "flashy" stats (sacks, 3rd down D, INTs, Passing D)
should be a good game. I think it's gonna come down to leadership. Gotta go with TS9 on this one.
- Snell is a very good RB and can cause fits, but so can Miles Sanders
- Dual threat QBs are scary whoever they are
- Kentucky has a higher ranked D in average stats (Rushing D, Scoring D, total D) Penn State has a higher ranked D in "flashy" stats (sacks, 3rd down D, INTs, Passing D)
should be a good game. I think it's gonna come down to leadership. Gotta go with TS9 on this one.
I don’t take anything too seriously. Just like to hear opinions from other sides. Especially non conference fans that we don’t play but once in a blue moon. I’m pretty excited for our team to play a tradition rich football program. Here’s to a good, injury free game. Good luck!
