That is not allowed anymore dummy. Read the rule. It’s been cited several times in this thread. Or better yet just shut up.
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That is not allowed anymore dummy. Read the rule. It’s been cited several times in this thread. Or better yet just shut up.
Gotta say, Red Sox fans have you beat by a mile on the obnoxious scale. By the way, you forgot to mention Billy Williams. He along with Ernie were two of my all time favorites.
It's even okay to veer out of you running path and take out a defenseless player?
Like I said to SweetRevenge78, you must also be in favor of chop blocks.
And, when Rizzo has a nasty bruise on his forehead by an "errant" throw, you will simply accept that as baseball players being baseball players. Gotcha.
Yep....regardless of whether the ruling was correct or not, Rizzo will be getting one in the earhole next at bat.
Ceasar is correct but no one else is willing to acknowledge just how wrong they are.
Yes, it is okay to take out a "defenseless" player in that situation. Good hard, clean baseball
Isn't comparable to a chop block at all--you want to compare it to Army/Navy/Air Force/Ga Tech/etc cutting players then fine and I'll tell you I'm fine with those blocks.
If Rizzo gets hit that would be fine--police the game within the game--the Bucs won't do that because they have no balls but if they did I would support it.
Yes, it is okay to take out a "defenseless" player in that situation. Good hard, clean baseball
Isn't comparable to a chop block at all--you want to compare it to Army/Navy/Air Force/Ga Tech/etc cutting players then fine and I'll tell you I'm fine with those blocks.
If Rizzo gets hit that would be fine--police the game within the game--the Bucs won't do that because they have no balls but if they did I would support it.
Clearly you haven't watched much Pirate baseball. He slept well last night with no concerns about the Bucs doing anything. A different team then I'd agree. I'll be pleasantly surprised if the Bucs do something. Even if they just throw behind him I'd be impressed. They won't but at least it would show some balls for once.
I give you the preverbal business SWEET but I like you sir!
You got gumption sir!
lol, well okay...you are correct in that I have not watched much Pirate baseball lately.
For all you Rizzo, Maddon, Cubs disciples, MLB has just ruled that his slide was indeed illegal. So quiet, please.
Glenn Beckert and Don Kessinger livid in my town and used to play tennis at my grade school, we saw them there all the time. Randy Hundley would also show up from time to time. Very nice guy's. I loved the 1969 Cubs even though they broke my heart as a kid growing up.
Guess what genius, MLB just said the slide was ILLEGAL and informed the Cubs and Pirates of the decision.
I thought we can't trust decisions made by anyone--why does someone in the MLB office now matter. Consistency please
I believe one or both of those guys grew up in Pittsburgh. Someone here will know. Yeah, the 1969 Cubs had it, but fell victim to the Amazin' Mets. Crazy race that year. Also forgot to mention another favorite of mine, Ron Santo. Anyway, I liked sports a lot in that era. Something missing now (probably just my youth!). Good talking with you.
MLB did not say that. A source said MLB thinks the call was wrong. Guess what? MLB does not officiate games, umpires do. So there is little import to what they think in a situation like that. It's a judgment call, the umps and then replay make the call, not MLB
Thought the catcher executed well and the runner was out by >10 ft. Definitely cheap. If MLB is trying to protect catchers, that should be interference.
Saying you were on the wrong side of an argument doesn't make you a bad person. Sure, umpires officiate the games but they are employed by MLB. MLB had informed both teams the slide should have been ruled as interference. The MLB office ultimately decides how rules are to be applied and the umpire crew and replay crew were wrong.
It's funny how a few people in this thread have been adamant about how the slide was perfectly legal but now their argument has shifted to, "Well, it was a judgement call so what are ya gonna do?"
Take your own advise...being in the majority on this or any board doesn't make you right. You're wrong here.
It is a judgment call, same as balls and strikes are. There is a rule and the ump uses his judgment to apply the situation to the rule. Your point is taken however. If MLB makes a statement that it was interference I will be happy to admit my interpretation is wrong.
Now it’s down to you and Joe Maddon thinking it was a legal slide. You’ve made yourself look like an ass once again. To fing funny. What a dope.
I was lucky enough to coach a kid who is now a prominent RP for a Cubs rival. I texted him today to ask his and his teams opinion on the Rizzo play. He and his team think Rizzo is a dirty player, its not the first time he's taken out a C and he routinely goes outside of the normal path to slide in to people.
Forget Bob Gibson. Bob WALK would have plunked him in the head. AJ Burnett would have done the same thing. Tonight....nothing, so far.
Bob Veal threw Harder than Gibson but he was as accurate as a scud-missile fired in the Gulf War.
Jim Bibby would have broken 2-3 of his ribs!!
We can continue to debate clean or dirty, legal or illegal, etc. What isn't debatable is the Pirates have no balls. If you disagree you aren't watching.
Which made him very effective, particularly when his glasses got steamed up on a hot night.
The manager has no balls. The call to handle it, comes from the manager, and he is nutless.
The manager doesn’t not stand on the mound. Any one of the pitchers facing Rizzo could have chosen to address the situation on their own.
99 percent of the managers in this league would have ordered it. That's all I have to say.
I was off line for while but want to issue my mea culpa to those who were correct in the rule and its interpretation. You were right, I was wrong.
That is refreshing. Baseball aside, there are some on this board who will not admit their errors under any circumstances. We all make mistakes and a certain amount of humility enhances credibility.
Tommy Lasorda and Sparky Anderson, back in the day, both publicly stated that they NEVER ordered any of their pitchers to hit any batter.
They didn't have to say it. They both spoke with their EYES!
Believe me, their pitchers clearly understood the message.
Debate pros and cons of the rule all you want, but ‘breaking up a DP’ hasn’t been part of the game for at least a generation. MLB is behind the times in catching up. Like it or not, protecting players is the focus.
There is not one American born major leaguer today (and probably all other nationalities) who hasn’t played Little League, high school or college baseball. They’ve grown up with the ‘direct slide’ rule. If there is a force play, the slide/feet must go directly to the base. Not wide of it to where you claim ability to touch with hand.
Like the NFL trying to figure out what a catch is, MLB should quit complicating it by interpreting changes of direction/intentions/etc and just copy a LL, HS or NCAA rule book.
There is not one American born major leaguer today (and probably all other nationalities) who hasn’t played Little League, high school or college baseball. They’ve grown up with the ‘direct slide’ rule. If there is a force play, the slide/feet must go directly to the base. Not wide of it to where you claim ability to touch with hand.
Like the NFL trying to figure out what a catch is, MLB should quit complicating it by interpreting changes of direction/intentions/etc and just copy a LL, HS or NCAA rule book.
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