Judge Smails' Michigan post in the other thread warms my heart
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I don't care what anybody says. He is a weird dude. Absolutely nobody jumps off of a diving board in khakis. Nobody.
He did that last September. I bet some of his people are telling him to tone things down a bit now.
He did that last September. I bet some of his people are telling him to tone things down a bit now.
You’re @michnittlion aren’t you?
@Count_von_Count would never lie, would he?
P.S. I never previously recalled your CVC title including “underscores”. Is that perhaps the combination of crosses, garlic and “other influences” got your predecessor “banned”?
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They still have a below average Oline and no skilll players that scare anyone. Tariq Black and People’s-Jones have talent but will have to make huge improvements to be difference makers.
You’re @michnittlion aren’t you?
@Count_von_Count would never lie, would he?
P.S. I never previously recalled your CVC title including “underscores”. Is that perhaps the combination of crosses, garlic and “other influences” got your predecessor “banned”?
Don't know who that is. I post in the den mostly. This board has too many lunatics.
The offensive line is their biggest problem. We here can relate to that. Not an easy fix.
It cannot be overstated how important a good QB is to a team. A great QB with leadership skills can cover up a lot of shortcomings for coaches. There aren't too many coaches in today's game who can have championship teams with average to below average QB play. If Harbaugh gets great QB play from that transfer QB next year, they will be tough to beat and all of their problems will be forgotten.
Their recruiting process is a mess. Lack of hustle, lack of organization, mistake after mistake. A quarterback isn't going to fix that.
Yeah, they also have Wisconsin as one of their cross-over games (Oct. 13 in Ann Arbor), along with Sparty, Penn State, and tOSU.
Distinct possibility of 5 losses. At Northwestern could be difficult, too.
That ND game is Saturday, Sept. 1 at 7:30 in South Bend.
http://gridironnow.com/tim-drevno-major-problems-jim-harbaugh/
Jim Harbaugh’s continued faith in Tim Drevno causing major problems at Michigan
It has not gone bad yet at Michigan but it could soon, multiple sources close to the program say, and the trouble points back to offensive coordinator Tim Drevno.
Jim Harbaugh has a credibility problem. He has a credibility problem with his players, his assistants and his bosses.
The credibility issue stems from Harbaugh’s unwillingness to get rid of Tim Drevno, who doubles as the offensive line coach, or at the least keep him away from the offensive line and play-calling duties. Sources said nobody inside Schembechler Hall can understand how Drevno remains employed.
Harbaugh is a loyal person and Drevno has been with him since their days at FCS member San Diego, but Drevno’s performance at Michigan has been subpar and isn’t going unnoticed. Players and other assistants are said to be dismayed that a guy who has generated so few results can keep Harbaugh’s confidence.
RELATED: Is Jim Harbaugh burned out at Michigan?
One source told me to look no further than the Greg Frey debacle for evidence of Tim Drevno’s negative impact on the program.
Frey, a renowned offensive tackle guru, was hired last year to work his magic on Michigan’s tight ends and tackles. But when fall camp started, Drevno (who was working with the interior lineman) told Frey, in so many words, “I’ll handle the offensive line.”
Harbaugh didn’t step in to correct the situation.
Frey consequently left the program following the season to join Willie Taggart at Florida State. He will be the lone offensive line coach at FSU, which is his alma mater.
Another insider said Michigan’s decision to move Drevno onto the field late last season was because he and passing game coordinator Pep Hamilton didn’t see eye-to-eye, which is also the reason that former quarterbacks coach Jedd Fisch made a lateral move to join UCLA’s staff for the 2017 season.
“Drevno doesn’t get along with anybody, he’s paranoid, and doesn’t trust or earn trust,” my source said.
I’m also told by multiple sources that Harbaugh is suffering from a crisis of confidence because of his inability to make the correct moves to catapult Michigan into the national title race.
“If Harbaugh can get his offensive coaches in line, he can save this thing, but until he does, they will continue to struggle,” another insider said. “There are players in that locker room who don’t even know who their position coach is yet and that is a huge problem.
“Players, coaches, administrators and donors are losing confidence in Jim because he hasn’t made the right choice on ‘Drev.’ He’s losing confidence and control because of one guy.”
One former player said Harbaugh “could fix this problem by moving Drevno as far away from the offensive line as possible and naming Ed Warinner the offensive coordinator.”
Warinner was hired as a “senior offensive analyst” in January — and he received a two-year contract that pays $250,000 a year.
RELATED: 2018 will be the make-or-break year for Jim Harbaugh at Michigan
Warinner was Minnesota’s offensive line coach in 2017. Before that, he spent five seasons at Ohio State. He was Ohio State’s co-offensive coordinator/offensive line coach from 2012-2014, the offensive coordinator/o-line coach in 2015 and the OC/tight ends coach in 2016.
“Look, there are three reasons last season went bad – the offensive coordinator, the defensive coordinator and the strength coach,” one insider said. “I can tell you the defensive coordinator and the strength coach weren’t the problem. All you have to do it watch the games to know where the breakdown is happening.”
Harbaugh chose to fire strength coach Kevin Tolbert, but sources say the players are upset about the move because they see Tolbert as the scapegoat for Tim Drevno’s bad offense.
“Pep Hamilton is another issue altogether,” the same source told me. “Pep is well-liked, but he isn’t like Jedd, who was a much better relationship-builder than Pep. Hamilton came in with all this NFL shit and didn’t take the time to talk to his players and learn about them, which explains the QB disconnect.
“Wilton Speight got along so well with Jedd Fisch that he wanted to follow him (as a grad transfer) if he got a college job, but since Jedd landed with the Rams, Wilton has no place to go. It’s no coincidence that Speight’s best season was under Jedd Fisch.”
While not all is lost – yet – it certainly appears that there have to be changes to this coaching staff and its handling of the talent on the roster. Keep an eye on any staff shuffling, as there are certain to be some interesting reassignments in the coming days.
No, the Harbuagh Era hasn’t gone bad just yet. But you will have a good idea where it is headed soon.
Jim Harbaugh’s continued faith in Tim Drevno causing major problems at Michigan
It has not gone bad yet at Michigan but it could soon, multiple sources close to the program say, and the trouble points back to offensive coordinator Tim Drevno.
Jim Harbaugh has a credibility problem. He has a credibility problem with his players, his assistants and his bosses.
The credibility issue stems from Harbaugh’s unwillingness to get rid of Tim Drevno, who doubles as the offensive line coach, or at the least keep him away from the offensive line and play-calling duties. Sources said nobody inside Schembechler Hall can understand how Drevno remains employed.
Harbaugh is a loyal person and Drevno has been with him since their days at FCS member San Diego, but Drevno’s performance at Michigan has been subpar and isn’t going unnoticed. Players and other assistants are said to be dismayed that a guy who has generated so few results can keep Harbaugh’s confidence.
RELATED: Is Jim Harbaugh burned out at Michigan?
One source told me to look no further than the Greg Frey debacle for evidence of Tim Drevno’s negative impact on the program.
Frey, a renowned offensive tackle guru, was hired last year to work his magic on Michigan’s tight ends and tackles. But when fall camp started, Drevno (who was working with the interior lineman) told Frey, in so many words, “I’ll handle the offensive line.”
Harbaugh didn’t step in to correct the situation.
Frey consequently left the program following the season to join Willie Taggart at Florida State. He will be the lone offensive line coach at FSU, which is his alma mater.
Another insider said Michigan’s decision to move Drevno onto the field late last season was because he and passing game coordinator Pep Hamilton didn’t see eye-to-eye, which is also the reason that former quarterbacks coach Jedd Fisch made a lateral move to join UCLA’s staff for the 2017 season.
“Drevno doesn’t get along with anybody, he’s paranoid, and doesn’t trust or earn trust,” my source said.
I’m also told by multiple sources that Harbaugh is suffering from a crisis of confidence because of his inability to make the correct moves to catapult Michigan into the national title race.
“If Harbaugh can get his offensive coaches in line, he can save this thing, but until he does, they will continue to struggle,” another insider said. “There are players in that locker room who don’t even know who their position coach is yet and that is a huge problem.
“Players, coaches, administrators and donors are losing confidence in Jim because he hasn’t made the right choice on ‘Drev.’ He’s losing confidence and control because of one guy.”
One former player said Harbaugh “could fix this problem by moving Drevno as far away from the offensive line as possible and naming Ed Warinner the offensive coordinator.”
Warinner was hired as a “senior offensive analyst” in January — and he received a two-year contract that pays $250,000 a year.
RELATED: 2018 will be the make-or-break year for Jim Harbaugh at Michigan
Warinner was Minnesota’s offensive line coach in 2017. Before that, he spent five seasons at Ohio State. He was Ohio State’s co-offensive coordinator/offensive line coach from 2012-2014, the offensive coordinator/o-line coach in 2015 and the OC/tight ends coach in 2016.
“Look, there are three reasons last season went bad – the offensive coordinator, the defensive coordinator and the strength coach,” one insider said. “I can tell you the defensive coordinator and the strength coach weren’t the problem. All you have to do it watch the games to know where the breakdown is happening.”
Harbaugh chose to fire strength coach Kevin Tolbert, but sources say the players are upset about the move because they see Tolbert as the scapegoat for Tim Drevno’s bad offense.
“Pep Hamilton is another issue altogether,” the same source told me. “Pep is well-liked, but he isn’t like Jedd, who was a much better relationship-builder than Pep. Hamilton came in with all this NFL shit and didn’t take the time to talk to his players and learn about them, which explains the QB disconnect.
“Wilton Speight got along so well with Jedd Fisch that he wanted to follow him (as a grad transfer) if he got a college job, but since Jedd landed with the Rams, Wilton has no place to go. It’s no coincidence that Speight’s best season was under Jedd Fisch.”
While not all is lost – yet – it certainly appears that there have to be changes to this coaching staff and its handling of the talent on the roster. Keep an eye on any staff shuffling, as there are certain to be some interesting reassignments in the coming days.
No, the Harbuagh Era hasn’t gone bad just yet. But you will have a good idea where it is headed soon.
So what record will be good for Harbaugh? Because realistically he's looking at three to five losses between ND, OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, and MSU. I guess if he makes it through that with only two losses the base will be satisfied, but I'm guessing a lot of the good guys on that defense are gone after this year (hill, gary, at least one of the linebackers).
Being a great college football head coach is much more than calling your own plays on the sideline. If you can't create a strong organization, the fact that you carry around on the sideline and reference the chinese food menu doesn't mean much.
ReegsShannon
Joined: 02/01/2014
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The insider info that is out there is basically:
- Harbaugh was tired of hiring recruiting support guys who were looking to leave ASAP for assistant coaching jobs. We had a lot of guys over the past couple years who were great at recruiting but wanted to move up in the coaching ranks and jumped at the first opportunity (Tony Tuioti for example). So Harbaugh wanted a more stable recruiting framework.
- Harbaugh hired Sean Magee and Matt Dudek and gave them free reign to build their staff, and they wanted to create a "NFL-like" recruiting/scouting department. As a part of these changes, Magee and Dudek decided to move on from Gwen Bush during last summer.
It seems like that was a clear and obvious mistake, IMO.
Coldwater
Joined: 12/14/2008
MGoPoints: 6646
Matt Dudek hasn't brought anything to the table. I'm sure he's trying his best, but the results speak for themselves. Plus he's caught up in the rich rod sexual harassment situation too.
JFW
Joined: 10/20/2010
MGoPoints: 7925
I'm not saying its a bad thing, but I get worried sometimes when I hear about NFL principles being applied to CFB applications. They are two different worlds. I hope this works out.
brad
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 2510
Creating an NFL-like recruiting department is the obvious mistake.
maize-blue
Joined: 01/10/2013
MGoPoints: 28516
My wild ass theory is that they got wrapped up in evaluations and analyses of players that it was lost who was supposed to be point men for the recruits.
Mulitple players said UM simply went MIA in their recruitments.
maize-blue
Joined: 01/10/2013
MGoPoints: 28516
Some speculation said the people who left were really good relationship people while the new people were more analytical.
Who knows why there were multiple accounts by recruits of UM stopping communication.
Partidge was given the Recruiting Coordinator tag probably to oversee some of these recruiting procedures and to ensure that they don't fall off a cliff again.
A lot of things internally went screwy this season.
tspoon
Joined: 07/30/2008
MGoPoints: 662
No question that a lot of things did go screwy this season.
ak47
Joined: 05/05/2011
MGoPoints: 13231
Its almost like hiring all nfl people is a bad strategy in college. Hopefully Harbaugh learned his lesson.
ReegsShannon
Joined: 02/01/2014
MGoPoints: 2498
The insider info that is out there is basically:
- Harbaugh was tired of hiring recruiting support guys who were looking to leave ASAP for assistant coaching jobs. We had a lot of guys over the past couple years who were great at recruiting but wanted to move up in the coaching ranks and jumped at the first opportunity (Tony Tuioti for example). So Harbaugh wanted a more stable recruiting framework.
- Harbaugh hired Sean Magee and Matt Dudek and gave them free reign to build their staff, and they wanted to create a "NFL-like" recruiting/scouting department. As a part of these changes, Magee and Dudek decided to move on from Gwen Bush during last summer.
It seems like that was a clear and obvious mistake, IMO.
Coldwater
Joined: 12/14/2008
MGoPoints: 6646
Matt Dudek hasn't brought anything to the table. I'm sure he's trying his best, but the results speak for themselves. Plus he's caught up in the rich rod sexual harassment situation too.
JFW
Joined: 10/20/2010
MGoPoints: 7925
I'm not saying its a bad thing, but I get worried sometimes when I hear about NFL principles being applied to CFB applications. They are two different worlds. I hope this works out.
brad
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 2510
Creating an NFL-like recruiting department is the obvious mistake.
maize-blue
Joined: 01/10/2013
MGoPoints: 28516
My wild ass theory is that they got wrapped up in evaluations and analyses of players that it was lost who was supposed to be point men for the recruits.
Mulitple players said UM simply went MIA in their recruitments.
maize-blue
Joined: 01/10/2013
MGoPoints: 28516
Some speculation said the people who left were really good relationship people while the new people were more analytical.
Who knows why there were multiple accounts by recruits of UM stopping communication.
Partidge was given the Recruiting Coordinator tag probably to oversee some of these recruiting procedures and to ensure that they don't fall off a cliff again.
A lot of things internally went screwy this season.
tspoon
Joined: 07/30/2008
MGoPoints: 662
No question that a lot of things did go screwy this season.
ak47
Joined: 05/05/2011
MGoPoints: 13231
Its almost like hiring all nfl people is a bad strategy in college. Hopefully Harbaugh learned his lesson.
Did anyone read David Jones article yesterday on Wally Richardson? I rarely read his articles, but since it was on Richardson, I gave it a read. Was actually pretty good. One takeaway. WR went into detail on playing with Jim Harbaugh. Pretty much said Harbaugh was a big d*ck and not well liked.
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Yawn.
As a Penn State fan, I love it when UM or tOSU stumbles. As much as I love that Franklin’s done more with greater adversity in less time, I don’t think something is very wrong in Michigan land.
Harbaugh’s UM came up short in 2016. And yes he seems like a major personality liability. Otherwise, I see it more as greater on-field parity in the top 5-6 of the B1G. Let’s not Be too opinionated too early about the weakness of Harbaugh’s program or the problems in Ann’s Arboretum when we just lost Saquon and our starting secondary and TE and JoMo and Gattis and Huff. Reload? Sounds great. Count on them doing the same!
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