Four and a half years of Franklin and staff, and still 4th best team in B1G East?

[BrucePa]

I happen to like Franklin, but so far, his Penn State record is 3-11 against Ohio State, Michigan, and Michigan State. When and how does "elite" happen?

 

[CaryPSU]

I happen to like Franklin, but so far, his Penn State record is 3-11 against Ohio State, Michigan, and Michigan State. When and how does "elite" happen?

Elite NEVER happens under JF.
He’s all smoke and mirrors!

 

[AWS1022]

I happen to like Franklin, but so far, his Penn State record is 3-11 against Ohio State, Michigan, and Michigan State. When and how does "elite" happen?

Oh good lord. We finished first and second....have to win the other games which apparently Michigan and MSU aren’t.

 

[ivan brunetti]

I happen to like Franklin, but so far, his Penn State record is 3-11 against Ohio State, Michigan, and Michigan State. When and how does "elite" happen?

Won the Fiesta Bowl and also won a Big Ten title.

But as for this year, Sparty and Maryland are tied for third, which means Penn State is now in fifth place in the division.