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Anyone an ESPN+ Insider? It's premium content, but you can sort of get the gist from the beginning of the article...
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ats-jay-wright-tops-coaches-developing-talent
Donte DiVincenzo recorded just one start as a redshirt freshman before winning Most Outstanding Player honors at the 2018 Final Four as a sophomore. A few weeks after that, he was taken with the 17th pick in the NBA draft.
Let's agree to call that player development.
As you might expect, Villanova's Jay Wright tops my rankings of coaches who have shown the best results in terms of player development over the past eight years. Wright is joined at the top of this list by Utah's Larry Krystkowiak and Michigan State's Tom Izzo. Congratulations, men.
Using the "Box Plus/Minus" statistic that sports-reference.com has calculated for every college player since 2010-11, I looked at year-to-year variations for major conference regulars who averaged 20 or more minutes per game in at least two consecutive campaigns.
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No mention of that guy from Duke?
Even if a bogus poll, it’s a positive for PSUmbb. I’ll take it! I can’t think of anything ranked #7 in any national category related to PSU men’s BB since maybe Pete Lisicki.
It's a $$ article on ESPN. A guy developed a metric that ranks active coaches and the year-to-year player development of their players beyond the expected development of players with a similiar profile. Chambers came in 7th, Jay Wright came in 1st.
Here is a summary (details are in the $$ article):
"Speaking of inspiring tales of player development from the state of Pennsylvania …
Pat Chambers?
Yes, Pat Chambers. While you weren’t paying attention to Penn State last season, both Tony Carr and Josh Reaves were recording year-to-year BPM upswings that are rare when your name isn’t Victor Oladipo. Moreover, Carr and Reaves were following in improvement footsteps left behind in prior years by sophomore-version Brandon Taylor and (going way back) junior-year Tim Frazier.
None of which means Chambers is definitely some kind of extreme player-development wiz or even that he’s primarily responsible for those four player seasons. All I know is returning Nittany Lions have tended to be better than would’ve been expected based on their prior season profiles. Make of that what you will."
Here is a summary (details are in the $$ article):
"Speaking of inspiring tales of player development from the state of Pennsylvania …
Pat Chambers?
Yes, Pat Chambers. While you weren’t paying attention to Penn State last season, both Tony Carr and Josh Reaves were recording year-to-year BPM upswings that are rare when your name isn’t Victor Oladipo. Moreover, Carr and Reaves were following in improvement footsteps left behind in prior years by sophomore-version Brandon Taylor and (going way back) junior-year Tim Frazier.
None of which means Chambers is definitely some kind of extreme player-development wiz or even that he’s primarily responsible for those four player seasons. All I know is returning Nittany Lions have tended to be better than would’ve been expected based on their prior season profiles. Make of that what you will."
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And if people only knew how much effort Pat has put in against unbelievable odds, they'd actually support him and stop ripping him. Its arguably one of the most thankless jobs in the NCAA.
Micah Parsons says hello. You still think he’ll disrupt the team chemistry? Get suspended for behavior issues? You must be disappointed.
Your criticism of Chambers holds no water. You have proven yourself to be a poor judge of talent, performance and character. Chambers is succeeding. Recruiting and growing a winning basketball program at PS takes time.Has it ever even been done? Even a blockhead like you should understand that - but you don’t.
It all comes down to much higher perimeter shooting percentages for each of those 4 players, which isn't necessarily on PC. PLus they are only compared to similar profile players and their development. So we have slow starters who finally break through by their junior year. He has recruited better than anyone ever at PSU now he needs to figure out game management
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The fact that Chamber's had Mike's back SO MUCH in that press conference with Brennan and WOULD NOT throw Mike under the bus or lead on about Mike's emotional issues, without Mike first bringing it to the public eye speaks VOLUMES on the type of person Pat is. Don't think for a second that recruits and their families do not realize that. He has their BACK, and cares deeply about his players beyond the court.
As Delgreco Wilson says - Pat Chambers is simply a good human being who happens to coach B10 basketball. THAT is a HUGE endorsement, from a man who really has the pulse and influential capabilities of the Philly recruiting scene.
Pat Chambers is the coach who is going to take Penn State basketball to that next level - which his recruiting has already shown. Give me all the shit that you want about him not being to a tourney in X years - **** that. This guy is a basketball coach, this guy has what it takes, this is a coach that IS going to take us to that next level. **** anything about "not tourney in - who cares - number of years." What he's building here is going to last, and is MUCH better than a year 4 flash-in-the-pan tournament appearance. It may be taking him awhile to get us to the tourney, but once we are there we are going to stay.
THAT is the MAJOR difference between what he is building and what past coaches who have made the tourney in less years had built.
Are you starting to get it yet???
As Delgreco Wilson says - Pat Chambers is simply a good human being who happens to coach B10 basketball. THAT is a HUGE endorsement, from a man who really has the pulse and influential capabilities of the Philly recruiting scene.
Pat Chambers is the coach who is going to take Penn State basketball to that next level - which his recruiting has already shown. Give me all the shit that you want about him not being to a tourney in X years - **** that. This guy is a basketball coach, this guy has what it takes, this is a coach that IS going to take us to that next level. **** anything about "not tourney in - who cares - number of years." What he's building here is going to last, and is MUCH better than a year 4 flash-in-the-pan tournament appearance. It may be taking him awhile to get us to the tourney, but once we are there we are going to stay.
THAT is the MAJOR difference between what he is building and what past coaches who have made the tourney in less years had built.
Are you starting to get it yet???
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Artsandletters you don’t know what a basketball even looks like and your 5 star football player sure hasn’t done anything great on the field yet
The Chicago Tribune posted their pre-season Media Poll (28 voters) on 10/10/18.
PSU was #11.....ahead of Northwestern, Illinois and Rutgers.
PSU was #11.....ahead of Northwestern, Illinois and Rutgers.
Lol...And no one cares what you think. Tell that to chambers and see if he gives two .....
I'm pretty sure Chambers prioritizes my opinion. Everyone knows he reads this message board.
On a related note, what we post here influences Franklin and the football team.
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