Dumb football question to fire up my beloved brethren on the board
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B'OB's next job is back in the NFL. He doesn't have the patience for dealing with college administrative pinheads.
BOB is a wonderful offensive coordinator at the pro or college level. Nothing more. Can't recruit and can't make the kinds of decisions required of head coaches.
The Board of Trustees will no doubt direct Sandy to hire someone who regularly posts here.
There are no dumb questions....just dumb people that ask questions.
He's hit and miss as a recruiter. A little more than half of the guys that committed to PSU while he was HC became starters or saw a lot of PT. He was very good recruiting some positions such as WR, and S, and not at all good at others such as OT, DT, and CB. His roster construction left something to be desired.
Let's not forget he had significant restrictions in recruiting numbers.
He was dealt an extremely difficult recruiting hand, no question. That said, recruiting the same number of CBs as OL doesn't seem like a great use of the limited number of scholarships that he had to give. It wasn't like he inherited an exceptionally well stocked OL cupboard.
We damn near received the death penalty and we are going to comment on O'Brien's roster construction.......
Whether you like or hate Bill O'Brien you can't argue with his judge/assessment of assistant coaches (sans one).
The guy's coaching Roladex was deep and talented. It's been a long time since PSU had positional coaches (sans one) as good as BO'B hired.
The guy's coaching Roladex was deep and talented. It's been a long time since PSU had positional coaches (sans one) as good as BO'B hired.
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Yes, because even with brutal sanctions you need guys to play all the positions. Signing six guys to fill two slots (he recruited another three guys to play safety plus Nick Scott) and signing the same number to fill five positions isn't great management of limited resources IMHO.
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I was a bit surprised by the sru vs iup score. I'll probably check out the cal u. Vs iup this Saturday. The Rock can still win the conference however someone has to beat the crimson hawks. I sure hope coach stays at psu.
And PSU was sifting through the cream of the crop feasting on only the finest meats and cheeses. Get Real.
If recruiting numbers are restricted it makes perfect sense to some that play makers get scholarships and then try to fill out the roster with walk on types.
Couldn’t cover Irvin Charles or get any pressure on there QB. They have very good offensive and defensive lines.
Good news......Psuru's "expand signature" function works! And what were you asking about football coaches?
No, it doesn't make sense to try to build a team that way. If your OL is composed of "walk on types", how are your play makers going to do anything when there are no holes for the backs and no protection for the QB? If the center of your DL, composed of "walk-on types" is getting shoved off the ball and the DBs are defend a QB who isn't being pressured, how do you expect to get a stop?
That would be Irv Charles of the 2015 PSU recruiting class and an 80-yard TD reception against Minnesota?
What a winding road he has traveled.
You can make rationalizations like that both ways.....if you have ok lines and no talent outside you can lose that way too.
Your argument assumes there were 4 star linemen that wanted to come to PSU and O'Brien passed on them. It never appeared there were great choices that BOB passed over. It was more like circling the wagons and finding out who the hell would climb aboard the Titanic. Hack signed on for the voyage and was widely hailed for volunteering because everyone knew how PSU HAD to be depleted with only 15 slots.
I think they’d more likely be coached by a cardboard cutout of Joepa before they call up BOB again.
FWIW, I thought he did a better far job than anyone could have reasonably expected under the circumstances. When the sanctions hit, I fully expected that the program would take more than a decade to produce a team I could reasonably expect to have a winning record. That the program never sank that low and bounced back as quickly as it did is in no small part a product of his efforts.
My argument doesn't assume that there were 4 star lineman waiting to sign with PSU. My argument is that it makes little sense to sign several 3 star CBs to fully stock a three-deep and barely enough OL and DL to fill out a 2 deep. The talent was going to be down, no question, but it does little good to sign someone just to use a scholarship or because the player would commit and had x number of stars while not addressing roster needs.
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My favorite saying that says the same thing is "there are no dumb questions just a lot of inquisitive idiots".
So what would you do if no lineman wanted to commit.....that were of any value?? Which ....for all we know is exactly what happened.
Bill O'Brien won at Iowa and at Wisky, finished 8 - 4 at the end of an absolutely horrid situation of a season. BOB will always be a hero to me for keeping the ship afloat. If you want to find fault with him......that's your prerogative.
Would rather them give MY a shot and if anyone would circle back, JoMo maybe?
Take them both, neither one is interested in coaching a university's football team with "success with honor " expectations.
I do like O'Brien, he's a coach, not a mentor of young fellows.
Don’t worry… not happening, from either the PSU or the BOB side.
I appreciate that BOB came here and kept the program alive at that awful time, but it’s just not the right fit for him to come here again.
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