How can you not understand it? They made it to the playoff last year, and bring back 15 starters. Maybe they will underachieve, but the hype is certainly warranted.
Cowherd just picked OSU to win Natl Championship
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How can you not understand it? They made it to the playoff last year, and bring back 15 starters. Maybe they will underachieve, but the hype is certainly warranted.
No! Either team may LOSE many other games. We had one good season... don't count your eggs before (insert extended egg metaphor here)
Ohio St had 7 drafted. 3 DBs in the 1st round. 2 in the 2nd (LB and WR). Their best OL went in the 3rd. They lost 2 WRs in the draft and 2 more signed free agent contracts. Their punter who was a weapon also signed a free agent contract.
They have 2 major question marks as a result, their secondary will be mostly new starters and Barrett may not have anyone to throw to if he has learned to throw this off season. I suspect teams that can throw the middle to deep ball will see success especially early in the year. I also suspect teams will be able to load the box on them defensively with some success.
Their OL was not the typically dominant OL you would expect last year and they lost their best player there (the center). They return all else so maybe they will improve a little, possibly.
Personally, I don't think this warrants a #1 preseason ranking but they do recruit well and I'm sure there are plenty of top players vying for those vacancies, they will just be green.
Of course, PENN STATE won the B1G and lost only Godwin (3rd round) in the draft, 4 defensive starters to free agency (Golden, Bell, Schwan, and Sickells), and it appears Reid to injury. So our biggest question mark is on defense. However, it does appear that we are loaded with options at DE and DB and are finally healthy at LB. I'm not sure that the defense isn't going to improve slightly in year 2 under Pry. Our offense is loaded, experienced, and deep.
Now I could be wrong and we'll see how it plays out on the field, but I think that the returning B1G champs with fewer and less highly regarded losses in their lineup would deserve a little more respect. It is basically assumed by the entire national media that Ohio St beats us this year, like we aren't even going to show up. I'm pretty sure our players are looking at this disrespect and plan on showing up.
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Exactly. Same defensive line as last year, and Penn State had 10 more sacks than OSU for the season.
Same defensive line as last year, listening to Herbie talk about how dominant they were in the first half of our game against Ohio State. How did that turn out? Penn State 6 sacks, Ohio State 1.
DUNNELLONFLBUCK said:Penn State had 14 total yards in the whole 4th quarter. Ohio State was up 14 to start the 4th quarter. Not bad after having to play a tough overtime night game at Whisky. Talk about and enjoy that game from last year all you want , you have 2 more months left and then its back to earth. See you in Columbus.
In reality, if OSU didn't get some of those fluke plays early in the game to keep them in it... the game would have been over much earlier.
OSU math... classes are pointless!
I'm not surprised. They will have a good DL, return a ton, get PSU/OU at home, and UM is replacing 17 starters. It's a logical pick, but it doesn't mean they get the trophy. Paper is way thicker than some of the skin around here. If the game was in HV this year again...I think plenty would give PSU the advantage. The games will still be played.
The way OSU recruited last 5 years it be a pretty sad if they didn't atleast win in next year or two.
I'm not sure why anyone is surprised or cares. PSU and OSU are both getting plenty of love this preseason and both deserve it.
USC is overrated. They beat us in the Rose Bowl with a great QB, great Oline and great receivers. Two thirds of that have graduated and will be playing in the NFL this year. I think Washington will win the Pac12 again this year.
The 2017 Buckeyes will go as Barrett goes. He, frankly, didn't look good at all the 2nd half of 2016 --- which gives me caution on being overly high on OSU.
Yep.
OSU left Gesicki wide open on the 1st play. Lucky for OSU that Gesicki fell down, otherwise he gains 40 instead of 16.
Then Barkley runs for 37. Ran right past Bosa, who was frozen by McSorley's well-executed read option. Barkley also ran right past Malik Hooker, left him tackling air.
Then Blacknall beats All-American CB Lattimore on the big pass play down to the 2.
The OSU defense --- including a TRIO of guys who have been/will be 1st-round NFL draft picks --- simply got outplayed on that drive.
Barkley ran for 37 yards on 1 play in that game-turning drive in the early 4th quarter. All-Americans Bosa and Hooker both got outplayed by PSU on that play. (then another All-American, Lattimore, got burned on the Blacknall pass on the next play)
But, yes, you are right. Include the kneel-downs, and it's 14 rushing yards for the quarter.
Sorry instead of just 14 yards you had 39
Getting beat up by Meatchickan at night then having to come back to play the Bucks is a tall task for the boys as you'll see
And lots of uncalled holding enabling that passing attack.....go watch the game, USC began throwing on a near every-down basis, PSU's Front 7 were getting blatantly mugged, not a single flag that I can remember....
How does 90 become 39?
PSU had 4 fourth quarter possessions. They scored on 3 of them, took a knee to end the game on the fourth. PSU outscored OSU 17-0 in the fourth quarter. Remove the points that resulted from special teams plays, we still outscored you 7-0. But we can talk about yards gained all day if that's what's important to you.
Possession 1. 90 yard driver for a TD
Possession 2. began on OSU 28 yard line after punt blocked. Went 12 yards for a Field Goal.
Possession 3. Blocked field goal for a TD
Possession 4. Took 3 kneel downs to end the game.
I returned from Columbus yesterday and had to listen this story about OSU's dline ad nauseum. To me it seems like something you would NOT want to say in public. First off you don't want to give other teams locker room material. Secondly you want to keep your team motivated and hungry. This is just feeding their smuggness.
BTW, is Columbus the king of chain restaurants? There's every imaginable chain and very few non-chains. Did like Condado's thought for tacos though ... cool college place.
Sorry, but wrong again Suckeye dipwad - go figure! Again, PSU only had 3 possessions in the 4th Quarter and here are the actual stats from those possessions directly from the play-by-play scorebook:
TOUCHDOWN, 5 PLAYS, 90 YARDS, 1:20
OSU21 PSU14
PUNT 3 PLAYS, 3 YARDS, 1:50
OSU21 PSU14- FIELD GOAL, 6 PLAYS, 12 YARDS, 2:09
OSU21 PSU17 - PSU blocked FG for TOUCHDOWN, 11 PLAYS, 59 YARDS, 5:06
OSU21 PSU24 - Turned over on DOWNS, 10 PLAYS, 12 YARDS, 3:25
OSU21 PSU24 - END OF GAME, 3 PLAYS, -13 YARDS, 1:02
OSU21 PSU24
Sorry . D
Sorry . Didn't mean to hurt your feelings snowflakeSorry, but wrong again Suckeye dipwad - go figure! Again, PSU only had 3 possessions in the 4th Quarter and here are the actual stats from those possessions directly from the play-by-play scorebook:
So that would be 89 yards for PSU in the 4th Quarter even including their last possession where they took over the ball on downs from a completely futile duhO$U offense that the PSU defense held scoreless for the final 25 minutes of the game which included duhO$U's last 6 possessions.....allowing PSU to completely dominate your beloved hapless Suckeyes 17-0 over the span and go into victory formation for their last possession and take knees accounting for the -13 yards of PSU's last possession which you think accrues to some fantastic defensive effort from your hapless and embarrassing Suckeyes that got pounded 31-0 by Clemson....LMFAO, you're a real treat Suckeye-boy, but sadly typical of your slack-jaw, poor-sport b1g $hithole bretheren..
OSU21 PSU14
OSU21 PSU14
OSU21 PSU17
OSU21 PSU24
OSU21 PSU24
OSU21 PSU24
Why only another half-hour?
Let's put another EIGHT HOURS on the clock! Another EIGHT DAYS!
Football forever!
Gnat --- this is not Nam, this is football. There are rules. 60 Minutes. That's the time limit, anything else is over the line.
Lol... I was torn between a half-hour and 2weeks ....but a half hour seemed a little more realistic to The bucknutt mantra after a loss.
Exactly. Same defensive line as last year, and Penn State had 10 more sacks than OSU for the season.
Same defensive line as last year, listening to Herbie talk about how dominant they were in the first half of our game against Ohio State. How did that turn out? Penn State 6 sacks, Ohio State 1.
Well done, love those pics!
And anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows that the very worst NFL team would positively annihilate the best college team.
First of all, PSU was down 17 going into the 4th not 14. Another stupid ass Buckeye fan that can't accept that there's a new sheriff in town. Yeah, we'll see you in Columbus. Barkley torched your vaunted D for 194 yards last time he was there. Just think what will happen this year with a real o-line in front of him. You guys better be ready or you'll be going down again. Doesn't matter if it's in Columbus or Schenectady.Penn State had 14 total yards in the whole 4th quarter. Ohio State was up 14 to start the 4th quarter. Not bad after having to play a tough overtime night game at Whisky. Talk about and enjoy that game from last year all you want , you have 2 more months left and then its back to earth. See you in Columbus.
Bucknut math. Maybe this guys should go back to 4th grade and learn how to count.
What minds? First we had to hear about lack of "signature" wins, whatever that means. I still haven't seen a consistent definition of it. Okay, so the media says he got his signature win finally against #2 Ohio State. So now the mantra is going to be, "Oh Yeah? Let's see you do it again." Idiots, the lot of them.
Which part of Michigan's team is going to "beat us up"? Would that be the defense that loses 9 of 11 starters? Or would that be the offense that loses 7 of 11 starters? I'm trying to figure that part out right now, please inform me of how that is going to happen with 4 new starters on an offensive line that is ranked no higher than 7th in the Big Ten in preseason media services? Let's add in the question of just how "beat up" Ohio State was last year heading into Beaver Stadium. A 14 point lead after three quarters, starters playing the whole game, and no injuries.
I find it interesting that the biggest argument Ohio State has this year as to why they'll win this game, has to do with Penn State playing Michigan the week before and Ohio State having a week off, rather than an outright talent advantage. If I were Ohio State, I'd worry about Indiana before anyone else. Richard Lagow might be the best passer in the nation and he has two of the best receivers in the Big Ten and nearly everything in that secondary for Ohio State played on Friday last year, not Saturday.
If I were a Buckeye fan (God forbid) --- I WOULD think that way. I WOULD have that "mantra."
We've never beaten OSU in back-to-back years in 24 years of B1G football. OSU fans understandably believe "well, we lose to Penn State every once in awhile. But it doesn't happen that often, and every loss is just a one-off loss. They cannot beat us consistently. The last 24 years of history shows that."
Want to keep OSU fans from having that attitude? Win on October 28th. They'll have to grudgingly come to terms with their multiple-game losing streak to their conference-mate to the east, a conference-mate that isn't going to be going away either.
It's another bucknutt that probably didn't even watch the game.. likes to talk smack about something she knows nothing about. Probably just a casual fan that knows OSU has been good for awhile... kinda like 80% of Steeler fans.
well, sorry Howie, but Penn State did trail 21-7 in 4th quarter. The 90-yard drive cut it to 21-14 ... blocked punt set up FG for 21-17 ... then the blocked FG and return for 24-21. Other than that, you are on target with everything you have said to these arrogant buckeyes.
I agree. Our offense is actually designed to that the DL out of the play as much as possible. So you get a lot of ways to attack the perimeter, flat, flare and intermediate zones. Lots of them are quick hitters like Houston did to us in the bowl game in 2011. It makes the game more finesse and less brawn. tOSU would argue that they can control the LOS with only five guys, giving them more coverage with the other six.
An interesting matchup challenge for tOSU.
We might not beat them Oct. 28th. Or maybe we will. But the handwriting's on the wall that we're going to beat them a fair amount going forward. I posted earlier today, that if people want to look at the last 15 years or so of history to measure this Penn State program, they're making a big mistake. This isn't the same program right now. First Bill O'Brien and now James Franklin have revived the program and brought it into the modern age of football. It's clear to anyone with even a modicum of discernment.
Agree...but you've then also got to give deference to the snapped ball over the punter's head and some turnovers by PSU early that spotted tOSU a 10-0 lead.
I read too fast. My mind was thinking he said we scored 14, but you are right on every count.
I agree --- PSU football will, on the whole, be considerably better over the next 15 years than it was in the last 15 years of the previous era (1997-2011).
I still want the 2nd straight win vs. OSU. It would be monumentally huge. Among other things, those folk out yonder on I-70 will become less smug.
