Yep, if you've looked at the recent PSU QBs that have succeeded here recently; M.Rob, Daryll Carter, McSorely, Mills and yes even Matt McGloin did not have big arms. They had moxie, leadership, toughness. The guys with "arm talent" haven't done well here as of late.
59.9%--not great but considering what he's working with probably should have been worse
None of those guys you listed would ever win a title as a QB
Hackenberg was inaccurate in HS. Even as a baseball pitcher in HS walked 40 batters in 25 2/3 innings, that has to be a record or something.
I am forever grateful that he chose us during that time of the Sandusky aftermath. At that time, he looked like the prototypical successful college/ NFL quarterback. Unfortunately, he never had consistency in his game.
Then was unlucky enough to be destroyed by the Jets, and then by Mike Singletary in that USFL wanna-be league. Just a real bad beat. With a better college coach he'd be an NFL Pro Bowler right now!
Agreed. QBs with minimal arm talent that aren't elite studs would never win a title. Take Stetson Bennett for example.
Jets couldn't salvage him at that point--see David Carr after his start with the Texans
Stetson Bennett has way more arm strength than the guys you mentioned. And way more accurate.
Top notch job of completely bending reality to try and fit your argument.
That is reality
So did Hack and others that you're bashing
Trace won a B10 title in 2016 and should’ve won it in 2017 which Trace broke every PSU passing record. The rocket arm stud is almost nonexistent these days. Pennix is probably closest to that and even he may not even be a first day pick. Look at the NFL and the top QBs are dual threat with Lamar, Mahomes, and Allen. Having the element of a QB that is a threat to run is huge. The super bowl last year was Hurts vs. Mahomes. Purdy is the exception and even he relies on quick throws and having a ridiculous running game with McCaffrey. Your living in the past with that thinking. I’m not saying Allar shouldn’t be the starter heading into next season. He does have a great arm and doesn’t turn the ball over, but there should always be a competition and I hope Franklin keeps an open mind.
Mahomes isn't a dual threat guy. Nor are most of the QBs in the playoffs. Goff Stafford Baker Dak Lawrence Flacco. Add Burrows and Cousins. JJ isn't a true dual threat. In fact only Milroe was of the 4 playoff teams. And Allar is capable of picking up yardage on the ground. If there's was going to be a competition we'd know. Allar would be gone. You don't think he got assurances?
Franklin is loyal to a fault especially with his QBs and I’m sure he assured Allar he’s the starter going into next year which he should. JJ had almost 400 yards rushing last year and was considered more of a dual threat until the OSU game when they forced him to throw and he responded with a monster game. He’s really developed into a complete QB and credit Harbaugh for that. Mahomes is absolutely a threat to run and only injuries have limited him running the past two years. Allar finally ran more against Ole Miss so hopefully he can keep defenses honest more next year, but that constant threat of the run is a big difference. Again not saying Allar shouldn’t be the guy going into next year, but I hope Franklin and AK keep an open mind.
those teams in 2014-15 were just not very good, and it was because of the scholarship limitations. that was the peak effect of the sanctions. I don't think it's likely that another coach would have done a lot more with those offenses. the real story is the recruiting services have never, ever been reliably able to identify the actual top QBs. they miss all the time. then we hear it was the coaches who ruined them. maybe it's just that they weren't actually one of the top QBs in the nation
Maybe but there's a theme being created with Franklin and pocket passers. Hack's biggest mistake was staying unfortunately.
there is, and i don't understand why he is recruiting pocket passers. he had a style that fits another type of qb and has already had real success with that. so i am not sure what he is doing in general. but also there is a big issue with the recruiting services, and always has been. they have forever tagged certain HS QBs as top tier and they are nowhere close. Just think of some of the ones psu was in the mix for or landed - Kendra, Powlus, Casey, Simms, Morelli, Hackenberg. all of these guys were supposedly going to be legendary qbs
It's clear what is happening. the issue is that PSU is contract-locked and all they can do is hire and fire coordinators until about 2027
Actually he isn't: Hackenberg possessed the ability to function on the big stage, beating Michigan at home, nearly beating Ohio State, and playing well in the bigger games. Allar does not have the mental make up to compete under bright lights. It is what it is and it doesn't change. The staff needs to allow him to move on and play in the MAC or Sun Belt...
No QB is going to stay after starting to compete for the job--see McCord
There's lots of people who probably shouldn't be. Beau should be on scholarship as he's a fine backup/gadget play QB that isn't a threat to portal.
Exactly why Beau may, not saying he is, but may be a better option. He can open up the offense as the opposing defenses need to account for Beau as he is a super dangerous runner. But lets be honest, Franklin would never start Beau over Allar.
And this is your problem. You're assuming he's Hack and Beau is Trace
I clearly said "may". My worry is, how much better could our QB/Wrs be, in key games, collectively next year? This year was a disaster, so they could be a little better than a disaster next year?
