PSU - Iowa dual thread ... post comments as responses ***
- Thread starter Tom McAndrew
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a few pre-match comments ...
it appears that Frey is going for PSU at 157
match will start at 125
it appears that Frey is going for PSU at 157
match will start at 125
125: Conaway vs. Gilman ...
Per 1:
Gilman gets a single leg spin behind off of a bad Conaway shot that Gilman blocked, 0-2. OOB with 1:31 left. Stalemate with 1:21. RT over 1 min. Conaway up but brought back to the mat. OOB with 25 left. RT at 1:40. End of period, with 2:05 of RT for Gilman.
Per 2:
Gilman down. He's out in 10 sec, 0-3. No real shots in 1st minute. Lots of ear-to-ear tie-ups. End of period. 1:53 of RT for Gilman
Per 3:
JC takes down. Gilman gets hit with a stall warning at 7 sec. JC out in 15 sec, 1-3. JC gets in on a leg, and gets the TD, 3-3. He cuts him (I think), 3-4. 1:15 left. JC in on a single, Gilman sprawls, but JC gets the TD, 5-4. JC cuts him again, 5-5. 30 sec left. HJC nearly gets a TD at the end, but they are OOB. 17 sec. left. JC needs a TD as Gilman has RT. And it ends, 5-6, due to RT.
JC did very well in the 3rd period, but wasted too much time in the 1st and 2nd period. You could argue that Gilman could have been hit with a stall warning in the 3rd -- tough to say.
0-3, Iowa
Per 1:
Gilman gets a single leg spin behind off of a bad Conaway shot that Gilman blocked, 0-2. OOB with 1:31 left. Stalemate with 1:21. RT over 1 min. Conaway up but brought back to the mat. OOB with 25 left. RT at 1:40. End of period, with 2:05 of RT for Gilman.
Per 2:
Gilman down. He's out in 10 sec, 0-3. No real shots in 1st minute. Lots of ear-to-ear tie-ups. End of period. 1:53 of RT for Gilman
Per 3:
JC takes down. Gilman gets hit with a stall warning at 7 sec. JC out in 15 sec, 1-3. JC gets in on a leg, and gets the TD, 3-3. He cuts him (I think), 3-4. 1:15 left. JC in on a single, Gilman sprawls, but JC gets the TD, 5-4. JC cuts him again, 5-5. 30 sec left. HJC nearly gets a TD at the end, but they are OOB. 17 sec. left. JC needs a TD as Gilman has RT. And it ends, 5-6, due to RT.
JC did very well in the 3rd period, but wasted too much time in the 1st and 2nd period. You could argue that Gilman could have been hit with a stall warning in the 3rd -- tough to say.
0-3, Iowa
133: Gulibon vs. Clark ...
Per 1:
Stalemate at 2:47. Stoppage at 2:22 for something -- not sure what. No real shots thru 1 min. Clark in on an ankle, and gets the TD, 0-2. JG up, and a stalemate at 1:25. Caution on JG on the restart. Jimmy out at 1:04, 1-2, but Clark back on an ankle right away. Jimmy sprawling and a stalemate at 32 sec. Clark iwth a shot but nothing. 15 sec left. End of period.
Per 2:
Clark chooses down. RT at 35 sec for Clark. Esc at 1:48. RT at 24 sec. 1-3. Gulibon with a quick shot but nothing. Clark tries a 2-on1, but nothing. Stalemate at 1:11. Clar with a HC shot, but nothing. Now JG in on a single, almost had it, but Clark sprawled and looks to be nothing. Hard to believe JG didn't get the TD he was so deep. Stalemate at 34 sec. JG in on a single, and gets the TD, 303 with about 14 sec left. He rides him out. RT for Clark down to 10 sec I believe.
Per 3:
JG takes down. Not much movement off the whistle. Stopped for potentially dangerous at 1:54. Caution on Clark on restart. Jimmy up but never cleared the hands, and is taken back to mat. RT getting close to 1 min. Potentially dangerous at 1:08. RT now at 1:04, so Jimmy has to get out. 2nd caution on Jimmy -- he did jump the whistle. 3rd caution on JG for jumping the whistle, so it's 3-4. Jimmy with a sitout and an esc with 50 some sec. 4-4. JG needs a TD due to the RT. 25 sec left. Jimmy gets the TD and gets swipes in the last 10 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!! Wins the match, 8-5. James Franklin goes wild and gives his daughters high fives.
3-3, the match is tied
This post was edited on 2/8 1:26 PM by Tom McAndrew
Per 1:
Stalemate at 2:47. Stoppage at 2:22 for something -- not sure what. No real shots thru 1 min. Clark in on an ankle, and gets the TD, 0-2. JG up, and a stalemate at 1:25. Caution on JG on the restart. Jimmy out at 1:04, 1-2, but Clark back on an ankle right away. Jimmy sprawling and a stalemate at 32 sec. Clark iwth a shot but nothing. 15 sec left. End of period.
Per 2:
Clark chooses down. RT at 35 sec for Clark. Esc at 1:48. RT at 24 sec. 1-3. Gulibon with a quick shot but nothing. Clark tries a 2-on1, but nothing. Stalemate at 1:11. Clar with a HC shot, but nothing. Now JG in on a single, almost had it, but Clark sprawled and looks to be nothing. Hard to believe JG didn't get the TD he was so deep. Stalemate at 34 sec. JG in on a single, and gets the TD, 303 with about 14 sec left. He rides him out. RT for Clark down to 10 sec I believe.
Per 3:
JG takes down. Not much movement off the whistle. Stopped for potentially dangerous at 1:54. Caution on Clark on restart. Jimmy up but never cleared the hands, and is taken back to mat. RT getting close to 1 min. Potentially dangerous at 1:08. RT now at 1:04, so Jimmy has to get out. 2nd caution on Jimmy -- he did jump the whistle. 3rd caution on JG for jumping the whistle, so it's 3-4. Jimmy with a sitout and an esc with 50 some sec. 4-4. JG needs a TD due to the RT. 25 sec left. Jimmy gets the TD and gets swipes in the last 10 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!! Wins the match, 8-5. James Franklin goes wild and gives his daughters high fives.
3-3, the match is tied
This post was edited on 2/8 1:26 PM by Tom McAndrew
141: Kade Moss vs. Josh Dziewa (Jeva) ...
hoping that Jeva's return to PA is an unhappy one.
Per 1:
Jeva with a duck under and gets the TD, 0-2. Jeva tries to take him down and Moss hits a reversal, 2-2. OOB with 2:16 left. Jeva is to his feet and out at 2:07, 2-3. Moss in on a single, Jeva sprawls, could go either way, but Jeva breaks Moss' hold on his legs and gets the TD, 2-5. 1 min left. Jeva works up to base but seems wary of Jeva. Taken back to mat at 21 sec. Ref telling both to work to improve. Jeva tries to throw in a cradle. Nothing.
Per 2:
Moss defers. Jeva takes bottom. RT at 1:02 for Jeva. Jeva out in 6 sec, 2-06. Jeva with another duck, nothing. Now he's in on a single. Moss with the whizzer and a sprawl. Jeva working up and gets the TD, 28. He cuts Moss, 3-8 with 1:10 left. RT at 0:59. Moss shoots from way out. Jeva counters with a duck, nothing. End of period.
Per 3:
Moss takes bottom. Caution on Jeva. Jeva throws in legs while Moss is rising up. Stalemate at 1:39. RT at 1:21 for Jeva. Moss up but taken back down at 1:30. He's out at 1:22, 4-8. Moss with a half-hearted shot, and Jeva not doing much . Jeva shoots at 25 sec, and Moss sprawls. Stalemate at 15 sec left. Moss tries a couple of shots. Stoppage at 4 sec . End of period. Jeva shoves Moss after the whistle and the crowd lets him know about it. 4-9 is the final, I believe.
3-6, Iowa
hoping that Jeva's return to PA is an unhappy one.
Per 1:
Jeva with a duck under and gets the TD, 0-2. Jeva tries to take him down and Moss hits a reversal, 2-2. OOB with 2:16 left. Jeva is to his feet and out at 2:07, 2-3. Moss in on a single, Jeva sprawls, could go either way, but Jeva breaks Moss' hold on his legs and gets the TD, 2-5. 1 min left. Jeva works up to base but seems wary of Jeva. Taken back to mat at 21 sec. Ref telling both to work to improve. Jeva tries to throw in a cradle. Nothing.
Per 2:
Moss defers. Jeva takes bottom. RT at 1:02 for Jeva. Jeva out in 6 sec, 2-06. Jeva with another duck, nothing. Now he's in on a single. Moss with the whizzer and a sprawl. Jeva working up and gets the TD, 28. He cuts Moss, 3-8 with 1:10 left. RT at 0:59. Moss shoots from way out. Jeva counters with a duck, nothing. End of period.
Per 3:
Moss takes bottom. Caution on Jeva. Jeva throws in legs while Moss is rising up. Stalemate at 1:39. RT at 1:21 for Jeva. Moss up but taken back down at 1:30. He's out at 1:22, 4-8. Moss with a half-hearted shot, and Jeva not doing much . Jeva shoots at 25 sec, and Moss sprawls. Stalemate at 15 sec left. Moss tries a couple of shots. Stoppage at 4 sec . End of period. Jeva shoves Moss after the whistle and the crowd lets him know about it. 4-9 is the final, I believe.
3-6, Iowa
149: Beitz vs. Sorensen ...
Per 1:
Beitz with an ankle pick and gets the TD at 2:20, 2-0. Esc, 2-1 with 2:11 left. OOB at 2:01. Sorensen with a single and gets the TD at 1:10, 2-3. OOB at 1:02. Beitz up and taken back to mat. Beitz is out at 40 sec, 3-3. Sorensen gets a single off of a collar tie with 10 sec left, 3-5. Damn
Per 2:
Sorensen defers, Beitz takes bottom. Caution on somebody - think Sorensen. Beitz out in 11 sec, 4-5. RT is 43 sec. Sorensen in on another leg. Beitz with a whizzer. OOB at 1:00. Good defense by Beitz. Beitz tries a pick but nothing. Beitz with another reach, but he keeps getting jammed on his shots. Another shot by Beitz, nothing. End of period.
Per 3:
Sorensen takes down. Sorensen out in 9 sec, 4-6. Sorensen in on another single, Beitz with a whizzer. They are on the edge, and OOB at 1:19. Beitz with another reach, nothing. 1 min left. OOB with 52 sec. Beitz shoots with 35 sec from way far away, ends up in a front headlock, stalemate at 23 sec. Stalling warning on Iowa, Beitz in on a single. OOB at 0:01. So close to going OT, but Sorensen gets the win.
3-9, Iowa
Per 1:
Beitz with an ankle pick and gets the TD at 2:20, 2-0. Esc, 2-1 with 2:11 left. OOB at 2:01. Sorensen with a single and gets the TD at 1:10, 2-3. OOB at 1:02. Beitz up and taken back to mat. Beitz is out at 40 sec, 3-3. Sorensen gets a single off of a collar tie with 10 sec left, 3-5. Damn
Per 2:
Sorensen defers, Beitz takes bottom. Caution on somebody - think Sorensen. Beitz out in 11 sec, 4-5. RT is 43 sec. Sorensen in on another leg. Beitz with a whizzer. OOB at 1:00. Good defense by Beitz. Beitz tries a pick but nothing. Beitz with another reach, but he keeps getting jammed on his shots. Another shot by Beitz, nothing. End of period.
Per 3:
Sorensen takes down. Sorensen out in 9 sec, 4-6. Sorensen in on another single, Beitz with a whizzer. They are on the edge, and OOB at 1:19. Beitz with another reach, nothing. 1 min left. OOB with 52 sec. Beitz shoots with 35 sec from way far away, ends up in a front headlock, stalemate at 23 sec. Stalling warning on Iowa, Beitz in on a single. OOB at 0:01. So close to going OT, but Sorensen gets the win.
3-9, Iowa
157: Luke Frey vs. Mike Kelly ...
Per. 1:
Frey in on a single but Kelly sprawls, nothing. Stalemate at 2:22. Frey shoots but gets jammed. Kelly trying to spin around, and Frey ends up with the TD, 2-0. He throws in the legs. Ref wants both to work. Potentially dangerous at 29 sec. RT now at 1:04 for Frey. Kelly almost got a reversal there. Frey with legs in again. and Kelly gets a rev with 18 sec left, 2-2. RT at 58 sec at end of period.
Per 2:
Frey defers, and Kelly takes bottom. Frey throws in legs and RT goes back over 1 min. Kelly gets a rev at 1:40, 2-4 -- that was bad. Kelly with a near wrist ride. Potentially dangerous at 50 sec. Caution on red. RT down to 30 sec for Frey. Frey flattened. Kelly now has RT -- it's at 20 sec at the end of the period.
Per 3:
Frey takes bottom. He's up quick, but taken back down. he uses an elevator and gets a reversal, 4-4. He got 1 swipe, but nothing more. Then Kelly gets the reversal, 4-6. 1 min left. Stall warning on Frey on bottom at 50 sec. Kelly has legs in. Stalemate at 26 sec. RT at 1:00 for Kelly. Frey up. Then tries a roll and nothing (not sure why he did that). With RT, it's a 4-7 loss for Frey.
3-12, Iowa, as they've won 4 of the 1st 5 matches.
Per. 1:
Frey in on a single but Kelly sprawls, nothing. Stalemate at 2:22. Frey shoots but gets jammed. Kelly trying to spin around, and Frey ends up with the TD, 2-0. He throws in the legs. Ref wants both to work. Potentially dangerous at 29 sec. RT now at 1:04 for Frey. Kelly almost got a reversal there. Frey with legs in again. and Kelly gets a rev with 18 sec left, 2-2. RT at 58 sec at end of period.
Per 2:
Frey defers, and Kelly takes bottom. Frey throws in legs and RT goes back over 1 min. Kelly gets a rev at 1:40, 2-4 -- that was bad. Kelly with a near wrist ride. Potentially dangerous at 50 sec. Caution on red. RT down to 30 sec for Frey. Frey flattened. Kelly now has RT -- it's at 20 sec at the end of the period.
Per 3:
Frey takes bottom. He's up quick, but taken back down. he uses an elevator and gets a reversal, 4-4. He got 1 swipe, but nothing more. Then Kelly gets the reversal, 4-6. 1 min left. Stall warning on Frey on bottom at 50 sec. Kelly has legs in. Stalemate at 26 sec. RT at 1:00 for Kelly. Frey up. Then tries a roll and nothing (not sure why he did that). With RT, it's a 4-7 loss for Frey.
3-12, Iowa, as they've won 4 of the 1st 5 matches.
Re: 141: Kade Moss vs. Josh Dziewa (Jeva) ...
Aaaaand Jeva with the bush league head slap after the whistle. You stay classy, San Diego.
Aaaaand Jeva with the bush league head slap after the whistle. You stay classy, San Diego.
I certainly did not expect them to win today. however to say they can't compete is to overstate it. Every single match in the first half was competitive.
...based on national rankings, Penn State is the underdog in 9 of the 10
bouts...
... they are all working hard for the entire 7 minutes but Iowa g
has 8 kids ranked in the top 10...
...hard to overcome...
...even so, Penn State has recorded 3 " upsets" this far...
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bouts...
... they are all working hard for the entire 7 minutes but Iowa g
has 8 kids ranked in the top 10...
...hard to overcome...
...even so, Penn State has recorded 3 " upsets" this far...
This post was edited on 2/8 2:37 PM by androcles
165: Hammond vs. Nick Moore ...
Per 1:
Hammond shoots, Moore sprawls, nothing. Moore reaches, nothing. Moore in on a single but Hammond drops hips down and Moore seemed to stop driving, so nothing. 1:30 left. Hammond shoots but Moore really sprawls and nothing. Moore reaches for HC but nothing. 30 sec left. Hammond shoots, close but Moore with another good sprawl. End of period.
Per 2:
Moore is on bottom. Hammond with a crab ride but now swipes. Moore almost out but Hammond drops to leg and then works up within 5 sec. OOB with 1:32. Another crab ride, but Moore gets a reversal, 0-2 at 1:20. Hammond up and then cut at 1:06, 1-2. Hammond with 19 sec of RT. Moore in deep but nothing. End of period.
Per 3:
Hammond is on bottom. RT is now in Moore's favor. OOB with 1:35. Hammond up and cut at 1:28, 2-2. Moore in deep, Hammond fights. Moore gets a TD, but the assistant ref says no so it's waved off (they were on the edge; debate as to whether Moore got it before they were OOB). Hammond in deep, and gets the TD with 8 sec left, 4-2. And that's a final!!!!!!!! Way to go Garett!!!!
Per 1:
Hammond shoots, Moore sprawls, nothing. Moore reaches, nothing. Moore in on a single but Hammond drops hips down and Moore seemed to stop driving, so nothing. 1:30 left. Hammond shoots but Moore really sprawls and nothing. Moore reaches for HC but nothing. 30 sec left. Hammond shoots, close but Moore with another good sprawl. End of period.
Per 2:
Moore is on bottom. Hammond with a crab ride but now swipes. Moore almost out but Hammond drops to leg and then works up within 5 sec. OOB with 1:32. Another crab ride, but Moore gets a reversal, 0-2 at 1:20. Hammond up and then cut at 1:06, 1-2. Hammond with 19 sec of RT. Moore in deep but nothing. End of period.
Per 3:
Hammond is on bottom. RT is now in Moore's favor. OOB with 1:35. Hammond up and cut at 1:28, 2-2. Moore in deep, Hammond fights. Moore gets a TD, but the assistant ref says no so it's waved off (they were on the edge; debate as to whether Moore got it before they were OOB). Hammond in deep, and gets the TD with 8 sec left, 4-2. And that's a final!!!!!!!! Way to go Garett!!!!
174: Brown vs. Mike Evans ...
here goes another war.
Per 1:
OOB at 2:39. OOB at at 1:58. Stoppage at 1:41 just as Brown is shooting. OOB with 1:98 left. End of period, during which Evans never took a shot.
Per 2:
Brown chooses bottom. Brown out in 8 sec, 1-0. Brown tries a HC, nothing. 40 sec left, and Evans has still yet to shoot. Brown in on a leg, but OOB with 3 sec left.
Per 3:
Evans takes bottom. Evans working up, but taken back down. Period started with 12 sec of RT for Evans, but now moving in Brown's direction. OOB with 57 sec. RT at 56 sec. I think ref blew the call there -- did not appear to be that Brown was OOB. RT now over 1 min. Ref tells Evans to star moving. Evans has an ankle but Brown gets back out. We have a rideout. With RT, it's a 2-0 victory for Brown.
9-12, Iowa leads
here goes another war.
Per 1:
OOB at 2:39. OOB at at 1:58. Stoppage at 1:41 just as Brown is shooting. OOB with 1:98 left. End of period, during which Evans never took a shot.
Per 2:
Brown chooses bottom. Brown out in 8 sec, 1-0. Brown tries a HC, nothing. 40 sec left, and Evans has still yet to shoot. Brown in on a leg, but OOB with 3 sec left.
Per 3:
Evans takes bottom. Evans working up, but taken back down. Period started with 12 sec of RT for Evans, but now moving in Brown's direction. OOB with 57 sec. RT at 56 sec. I think ref blew the call there -- did not appear to be that Brown was OOB. RT now over 1 min. Ref tells Evans to star moving. Evans has an ankle but Brown gets back out. We have a rideout. With RT, it's a 2-0 victory for Brown.
9-12, Iowa leads
This official is awful and clearly biased. Evans nowhere even close to out-of-bounds....no stalling on Evans despite not making a shot in entire 1st period or most of 2nd after Brown immediately escaped. No Stalling calls JD despite beyond clear stalling by JD in 3rd,.... No stalling on Gillman in 3rd despite intentionally going OB to avoid TD, etc... Just awful officiating including his BS commentary to clearly BS one-sided officiating
184: Cutch vs. Sammy Brooks ...
Per 1:
Stalemate at 2:38. Cutch almost had something but didn't pull the trigger. Brooks tries a slide-by, nothing. 1 min in. Stalemate with 1:39 left. Cutch with a counter shot gets a single, Brooks sprawls, and they end in a stalemate at 46 sec. Scoreless at the end of the period.
Per 2:
Brooks is on bottom. Brooks up but OOB at 1:53. Brooks up again and is out at 1:45, 0-1. Cutch with a shot, but after a sprawl Brooks works around behind and gets the TD, 0-3. OOB at 1:05. Cutch out at 53 sec, 1-3. Stoppage at 38 sec for both guys slapping heads. OOB at 8 sec.
Per 3:
Cutch is on bottom. He's up but taken back down to mat. RT goes over 1 min for Brooks. Cutch gets up but taken down to mat again. Double wrist hold and a turn, and Brooks is getting swipes. He gets 3 NF, 1-6, and they're OOB at 33 sec. A rideout. With RT, I believe it was a 1-8 loss.
9-15, Iowa
Per 1:
Stalemate at 2:38. Cutch almost had something but didn't pull the trigger. Brooks tries a slide-by, nothing. 1 min in. Stalemate with 1:39 left. Cutch with a counter shot gets a single, Brooks sprawls, and they end in a stalemate at 46 sec. Scoreless at the end of the period.
Per 2:
Brooks is on bottom. Brooks up but OOB at 1:53. Brooks up again and is out at 1:45, 0-1. Cutch with a shot, but after a sprawl Brooks works around behind and gets the TD, 0-3. OOB at 1:05. Cutch out at 53 sec, 1-3. Stoppage at 38 sec for both guys slapping heads. OOB at 8 sec.
Per 3:
Cutch is on bottom. He's up but taken back down to mat. RT goes over 1 min for Brooks. Cutch gets up but taken down to mat again. Double wrist hold and a turn, and Brooks is getting swipes. He gets 3 NF, 1-6, and they're OOB at 33 sec. A rideout. With RT, I believe it was a 1-8 loss.
9-15, Iowa
197: McIntosh vs. Burak ...
Per 1:
Burak shoots but Scratch spins out. 1 minute in. McIntosh has a single, has Burak dancing on 1 leg, and after a long scramble Mac gets the TD, 2-0. OOB with 30 sec. End of period. 33 sec of RT for McIntosh. Blood time for McIntosh
Per 2:
McIntosh is on bottom. McInrtosh has an ankle, working on it, and gets a reversal, 4-0. Takes him to the back, and gets 2 NF, 6-0. Came off of a 2-on-1 wrist tilt. OOB with 48 sec. RT at 52 sec. RT over 1 min. Burak up but taken back to mat at 29 sec. Almost locked a cradle but nothing. After the reversal, he got a rideout, and has 1:39 sec of RT.
Per 3:
Burak is on bottom. Burak up, but taken back down. OOB at 1:31 sec. Mac cuts him on a restart, 6-1. with 1:22 sec. Burak in on a leg, Mac sprawls, 35 sec left. Stalemate at 26 sec. Mac shoots, nothing. He shoots again, Burak tries a headlock, nothing more. With RT, 7-1.
12-15, Iowa ... it will come down the heavyweight match
Per 1:
Burak shoots but Scratch spins out. 1 minute in. McIntosh has a single, has Burak dancing on 1 leg, and after a long scramble Mac gets the TD, 2-0. OOB with 30 sec. End of period. 33 sec of RT for McIntosh. Blood time for McIntosh
Per 2:
McIntosh is on bottom. McInrtosh has an ankle, working on it, and gets a reversal, 4-0. Takes him to the back, and gets 2 NF, 6-0. Came off of a 2-on-1 wrist tilt. OOB with 48 sec. RT at 52 sec. RT over 1 min. Burak up but taken back to mat at 29 sec. Almost locked a cradle but nothing. After the reversal, he got a rideout, and has 1:39 sec of RT.
Per 3:
Burak is on bottom. Burak up, but taken back down. OOB at 1:31 sec. Mac cuts him on a restart, 6-1. with 1:22 sec. Burak in on a leg, Mac sprawls, 35 sec left. Stalemate at 26 sec. Mac shoots, nothing. He shoots again, Burak tries a headlock, nothing more. With RT, 7-1.
12-15, Iowa ... it will come down the heavyweight match
285: Lawson vs. Telford
both Gingrich and Lawson were introduced before the match, but LawDog gets the nod.
BTN says Lawson needs to win by 4 or more for PSU to win on criteria.
Per 1:
1:30 in, not much of anything. OOB at 51 sec. Not much action, until Telford gets behind on a slide-by, but LawDog hits a standing granby to get out of it. LawDog's shoe comes off at 4 sec. so stop the clock and an automatic stall warning on LawDog.
Per 2:
Telford defers, so LawDog takes down. Telford to an ankle and putting on a good ride. OOB at 1:22. RT up to 38 sec. Lawson having a tough time working to base as Telford often has an ankle. RT over a minute. Staling warning on LawDog (2nd) so Telford gets a point, 0-1. We have a rideout, and RT is 2 min for Telford.
Per 3:
Telford takes bottom. LawDog cuts him after 2 sec, 0-2. 1 min left. LawDog trying a bit, but isn't really pushing things. 44 sec. Now 30 sec left. LawDog reaches but nothing. 20 sec left. LawDog tries for a double, but OOB. 15 left. And that's it, with RT it's 0-3.
12-18, Iowa
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both Gingrich and Lawson were introduced before the match, but LawDog gets the nod.
BTN says Lawson needs to win by 4 or more for PSU to win on criteria.
Per 1:
1:30 in, not much of anything. OOB at 51 sec. Not much action, until Telford gets behind on a slide-by, but LawDog hits a standing granby to get out of it. LawDog's shoe comes off at 4 sec. so stop the clock and an automatic stall warning on LawDog.
Per 2:
Telford defers, so LawDog takes down. Telford to an ankle and putting on a good ride. OOB at 1:22. RT up to 38 sec. Lawson having a tough time working to base as Telford often has an ankle. RT over a minute. Staling warning on LawDog (2nd) so Telford gets a point, 0-1. We have a rideout, and RT is 2 min for Telford.
Per 3:
Telford takes bottom. LawDog cuts him after 2 sec, 0-2. 1 min left. LawDog trying a bit, but isn't really pushing things. 44 sec. Now 30 sec left. LawDog reaches but nothing. 20 sec left. LawDog tries for a double, but OOB. 15 left. And that's it, with RT it's 0-3.
12-18, Iowa
This post was edited on 2/8 5:29 PM by Tom McAndrew
well ...
first criteria is matches won. it was 4-5 in favor of Iowa before the 285 match.
next is pins, TF, etc. and there were none of those heading into the 285 match.
next is total points, and I think it was 39-42 heading into the 285 match.
next is 1st TD in the match, and Gilman had that.
So if LawDog had won, he would have needed to do so by 4 or more points for PSU to win on the 3rd criteria.
Tom
first criteria is matches won. it was 4-5 in favor of Iowa before the 285 match.
next is pins, TF, etc. and there were none of those heading into the 285 match.
next is total points, and I think it was 39-42 heading into the 285 match.
next is 1st TD in the match, and Gilman had that.
So if LawDog had won, he would have needed to do so by 4 or more points for PSU to win on the 3rd criteria.
Tom
Horse$hit non-call in every one of the situations I referenced - Cael was incensed at the calls - non-calls at the end of the 125 lb match. Calling an out-of-bounds re-start at the edge of the mat in the Brown-Evans match when Brown had 55 seconds of RT advantage and riding Evans strong AND the wrestlers were still in-bounds particularly egregious (and even the one-sided homer BTN announcers called it that way - said the call was ridiculous and the crowd booing was called for). Complete horse$hit call designed to give Evans a chance to escape at the restart to tie the match up and negate Brown from getting RT advantage. BEYOND OBVIOUS HOMER CALL and everybody, including the homer announcers, recognized it for precisely what it was.
Would've been a big win. Would've been a win just with Zain. But so what? Team had enough chances to win today ...
- Opening takedowns: PSU 3, Iowa 4 (none at 165, 174, 285; Frey gave up a 1st-period reversal).
- Winning after 1st: PSU 1 (197), Iowa 4 (tied at 157, 165, 174, 184, 285).
PSU lost the first period today. Fix that, and PSU wins the dual.
Add to that: a lot of guys got stuck on bottom too long.
Iowa is deservedly the #1 team in the country, and yet PSU had a real opportunity to win.
Actually, probably would have been a win if they would have let Dylan Alton go at 157....forget about Zain or Nico.
You're seeing things in the heat of the moment through extremely tinted glasses. I did the same thing over on our board. Some interesting calls both ways, but nothing terribly bad.
Re: 165: Hammond vs. Nick Moore ...
Come on, 1stplacehawk...Stache was on the defensive the entire match. Anyone could see that. He wins the Jesse Delgado award for today. Except Delgado usually wins.
It was a hard fought match and your team is still the fave this season, IMO. Next year, however, we will be back after our one year hiatus.
Come on, 1stplacehawk...Stache was on the defensive the entire match. Anyone could see that. He wins the Jesse Delgado award for today. Except Delgado usually wins.
It was a hard fought match and your team is still the fave this season, IMO. Next year, however, we will be back after our one year hiatus.
Re: 165: Hammond vs. Nick Moore ...
Brown absolutely deserved to win the match. He controlled the pace throughout and Evans couldn't get out. I was just pointing out that it is hard to score against good competition.
If there is no action on the edge of the mat, the official has the prerogative to restart the match in the center. The official did this consistently today and it was applied correctly in the match you referenced.
The 125 match COULD have had another stall there at the end, but after the restart it would have had to be egregious. Could have gone either way there and have seen it done both ways.
The official was fine and in control of the match today. Very consistent with his calls. You can argue that he should have called stalling more quickly in some matches, but he was very consistent in his application of the rules.
Not seeing anything through tinted glasses my friend - if you think Brown and Evans were even remotely close to being out-of-bounds (or that it's timing at 55 seconds of RT advantage for Brown was "coincidental"), you are the party "SEEING THINGS WITH TINTED GLASSES" Mr. Pedantic. The call was CLEARLY a horse$hit call and the intention of the BS call was equally clear - give Evans one last shot in the match at a quick escape on the restart while it was still a 0-1 match and Brown didn't have RT advantage. Again, if you think Brown & Evans were even remotely out-of-bounds, it is you who is "seeing things" through "tinted glasses".
BS, he called out-of-bounds in the Brown-Evans match - he did not call stalemate. BTW, he did not call earlier or later matches similar where Iowa wrestlers were riding PSU wrestlers at the edge of the mat (Cutch being a classic example).
This post was edited on 2/8 4:38 PM by Bushwood CC
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