ESPN summed up in 1 tweet
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Love this not so confident reaction from Michigan in drawing Bama
Blake Corum and crew can put on a brave face, but this speaks volumes
Blake Corum and crew can put on a brave face, but this speaks volumes
That's because RECORD (i.e., # of losses) for a P5 team has ALWAYS been claimed as the 1st Criteria (i.e., 2nd Criteria only comes into play for "comparable teams" that tie on 1st Criteria - 2nd Criteria is having a Conf Championship between teams with the same # of losses)..... except for this year when they have again corruptly morphed the criteria to screw FSU and finagle the 1-loss SEC team that loses the criteria that has been used in all other years into this year's corrupt subjective Invitational.
The same logic applies. Undefeated and conference champs should be in the playoff.
And no undefeated P5 champion had ever been left out, until they were.
Now that we’re down to four conferences, the playoffs should be four teams…each conference winner. No reason to give certain teams an extra opportunity and not others.
Let's penalize Penn State and others for being in a more competitive conference. Sounds great.
Right. If there were five undefeated P5 teams then okay one would have to be screwed. But you don’t leave out an undefeated team in favor of one who lost.
If they played comparable schedules this would be a great argument
Yep, and it seems the SEC is making up the rules.
Yup, that was the year that they pointed and said "see they had one less loss, that is key, have less losses if you want in!" and pulled that with a few other teams too, for the longest time we were told that having the fewest number of losses was key, and the most key of all the key things.
FSU plays Florida every year. Not their fault the SEC sucks
Perhaps but four teams in a playoff is a joke. FSU, Georgia and even a teams like Penn State, Oregon, etc should be in. Penn State in 81 went 10-2 but was absolutely the best team in the country.
Because…
PSU beat OSU H2H
PSU WON the Conference championship
Ohio State sat at hame doing nothing but watching other teams play
PSU’s loss toUM was without any linebackers, and a crappy targeting call that was horrifically wrong
PSU was playing as well as anyone in the country at the end of the season. Funny how Alabama gets that benefit, but PSU does not.
Yep. Not LSU or Florida. Also Miami.
Imagine playing two of the top SEC teams, and a 5x national champion and being left out because your schedule wasn't strong.
The FSU schedule is tougher than Georgia's. Especially since Georgia lost to the only team they played with a pulse.
LdN
FSU also beat LSU by a larger margin than Bama and didn't have the benefit of playing them at home.
FSU also beat more bowl eligible teams than any other team in the country.
At least Michigan probably loses again.
I agree--it's like when we played Auburn under Harsin. That's not the fault of the school but it doesn't alter the quality of that game.
This is why we should have been in over Washington
I don't understand why anyone is still saying Ohio State. We were NOT compared to Ohio State. We've known that since day 1.
It's not over my head. I'm pointing out the flaw of your argument. Florida was 5-7 this year. LSU 9-3. Florida wasn't good or even decent. FSU gets zero credit for beating a 5-7 team just like no one is praising Georgia for beating them. They beat LSU week 1 with Travis. Would they beat them without Travis? If Travis is healthy this is a different discussion. He's not. Unlike with Ohio State when they destroyed Wisconsin with Cardale FSU wasn't able to prove they can overcome the injury. They had 211 yards yesterday with 76 coming for a wildcat run.
Florida was the middle team in the SEC east.
LSU was the #3 team out of seven in the west.
BOTH were above average in the SEC based upon their results.
So either the SEC sucks, or FSU is great... or both.
But if it is the former, that the SEC sucks, there's ZERO reason a one loss Alabama should jump ahead of FSU.
There's no alternative where the SEC schedule Alabama played is super difficult. IT isn't. The SEC sucked this year.
Florida finished 5th in the East after tiebreakers and only two SEC teams had a worse record this year
LSU is a solid team--that's arguably their best win. Compare that to beating Georgia and Ole Miss or Bama or Oregon twice or Penn State/Ohio State. They don't match up.
The SEC, like the Big Ten, is top heavy. The bottom of the SEC sucks. FSU is great not elite.
Bama beat GEORGIA who had won 29 straight. GEORGIA.
You just don't like the SEC--own it.
It’s all about money. Anyone that takes stock in ESPN or they’re talking heads is not very intelligent. Those people say what they’re paid to say. They are slaves to money.
OLE Miss plays the same crappy teams that FSU played.
No idea why you think they are any better of an opponent except for bias.
And Ole Miss isn't in the playoff, right?
Ole Miss is ranked higher than Louisville and LSU, correct?
This whole "SEC bias" is absurd
Who's your top 10...
The corrupt a-holes running the show are hypocrites to the extreme - supposedly being in a P5 Conference and record (i.e., # of losses) was criteria numero uno. More important than winning a Conference Chapionship or even making your own CCG.... or specifically head-to-head result - all of those were distant secondary criteria to # of losses. But now, out of utter corrupt convenience, the criteria have been ignored to the utter detriment of FSU and corrupt convenience of the SEC. It's really disgusting and has always been the problem with the corrupt, biased scumbags running the NCAA Football Postseason.... exposed yet again for the true scumbags they are, but they don't give a shit - what's that tell you???
No undefeated p5 team has ever been left out in favor of a team with a loss…
The committee just does what it wants there’s no precedent, there’s no guidelines or process. There’s a list of criteria they arbitrarily pick and choose.
Name a P5 team that was 13-0 lost their elite starting QB then struggled to move the ball at all once he was out. Cardale proved against Wisconsin they were fine. 59-0. That's the type of game Louisville needed
The committee and ESPN saw an opportunity to pounce on “conflict” to amplify the storyline for a “needed” expansion to the current playoff format. Neither of those organizations stood up for what was the right thing to do, which was to allow FSU the opportunity to prove themselves on the field in the playoff format. Now, the talking heads and fans will say “FSU has an opportunity to prove themselves against UGA” knowing full well this isn’t true. The wind in the sails of FSU will be deflated going into that bowl game and it will be viewed as an after thought. It’s 100% pure political nonsense by the CFB “experts” who are paid to support a given narrative and will not speak differently all because of money.
If the SEC bias was in effect, UGA gets in with Bama.
I don't think it matters when Jordan Travis broke his leg. If they struggled to move the ball without him 6, 8, 10 weeks ago, they still get snubbed.
Notice that OSU was NEVER mentioned in the playoff talk? They didn't have a great offense even though they have 3-1st round offensive players on the roster. 6 sounds like a good position, but they didn't backfill a spot.
The biggest problem I have with the committee is they didn't adjust teams properly the last few weeks. They adjusted based on what they perceived would occur. Examples:
Oregon. Eye test had them at 5, but they had a resume below OSU, Texas, and Bama. Should have been 8 going into ccg week if not earlier.
OSU. Should have been 7 with no ccg to boost them further.
Florida State. Why put them at 4 going into ccg if you done seen them struggle without Travis? If the ACC schedule is deemed weak? Put em lower to begin with. Erase the false hope. Then if they shellack Louisville by 40, bounce em up if you want.
I don't think it matters when Jordan Travis broke his leg. If they struggled to move the ball without him 6, 8, 10 weeks ago, they still get snubbed.
Notice that OSU was NEVER mentioned in the playoff talk? They didn't have a great offense even though they have 3-1st round offensive players on the roster. 6 sounds like a good position, but they didn't backfill a spot.
The biggest problem I have with the committee is they didn't adjust teams properly the last few weeks. They adjusted based on what they perceived would occur. Examples:
Oregon. Eye test had them at 5, but they had a resume below OSU, Texas, and Bama. Should have been 8 going into ccg week if not earlier.
OSU. Should have been 7 with no ccg to boost them further.
Florida State. Why put them at 4 going into ccg if you done seen them struggle without Travis? If the ACC schedule is deemed weak? Put em lower to begin with. Erase the false hope. Then if they shellack Louisville by 40, bounce em up if you want.
But that's the thing - the committee was actually extremely consistent over the years. Now, I'm not saying how they chose teams was "correct" but it had a logic and was followed. P5 teams with fewest losses get in. Then when there's a tie for fewest losses, teams who won conference championships get priority (and winning a CCG rates higher than winning a title without one). Then if there is still a tie you go to head to head if applicable or common opponents, etc.
Then they just ignored that and made up bullshit this season. That is the real problem. Because you shouldn't be arbitrary.
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