can only get our Quarterback killed. Didn't someone from Penn State go to Ohio State to coach the offensive line?
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As well as a better coaching staff.Because they are all 5 and high-4 star recruits. We have one Menet coming, but they have 10.
Very simply:
1) They had more than 2-3 basic plays.
2) They threw the ball downfield.....often.
3) They had two QBs that were mobile and not interested in swallowing the football when they were in trouble.
can only get our Quarterback killed. Didn't someone from Penn State go to Ohio State to coach the offensive line?
This. Yes coaching seems to be a issue but the talent gap is wide between OSU and PSU. All good teams including PSU in our best years have more OL busts than not, just more to pick from.When you have 24 guys and pick 5 whether young or old you have the best of a group.
We have 8 guys and picked 5. Unless those 8 were special, we are most likely with a couple of guys who wouldn't start anywhere.
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I think the other replies have said as much but I will reiterate ...can only get our Quarterback killed.
So, you are saying OSU has 25 OL on scholarship? Seriously..... hmmmmm .....I think it is get a grip time.When you have 24 guys and pick 5 whether young or old you have the best of a group.
We have 8 guys and picked 5. Unless those 8 were special, we are most likely with a couple of guys who wouldn't start anywhere.
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can only get our Quarterback killed. Didn't someone from Penn State go to Ohio State to coach the offensive line?
So, you are saying OSU has 25 OL on scholarship? Seriously..... hmmmmm .....I think it is get a grip time.
I'd say that CH not being a real threat to run has some to do with it.can only get our Quarterback killed. Didn't someone from Penn State go to Ohio State to coach the offensive line?
Is OSU's OL young?? That's not my understanding...can only get our Quarterback killed. Didn't someone from Penn State go to Ohio State to coach the offensive line?
And what is the attrition rate for OL leaving PSU's program over the same time span?Well, actually - they DID sign 24 that "would be" eligible (see my post above)
About a half dozen have already flamed out and are no longer on the roster. (which isn't unusual for offensive line attrition).
The OP's post is legit in that OSU had 24 to "select from"....even though some have fallen by the side due to injury/talent/off-field etc.
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I've used the analogy before - because it is the best one out there:
Michigan's three years under DickRod.....SIX TOTAL offensive linemen recruited (09-11). Hoke came in and signed 10 total from 2012-13.....which left them with 16, but most of them 1st and 2nd year guys. That was their situation going into the 2013 season.
That is - essentially where PSU is RIGHT NOW!
Michigan is just now getting close to "normal". That same track puts PSU close to "normal" in 2017.
Again.....it is what it is.
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In the meantime, PSU (much like Michigan has done from 2012-2014) will have to try to employ some smoke-and-mirrors on offense. From what we saw on Saturday.....all the mirrors are cracked, and the smoke looks like it emanates from a "stink-bomb".
Its not. The OP was way off track.Is OSU's OL young?? That's not my understanding...
Well.....I listed all the relevant numbers. Its basically the same percentage as OSU's rate.....and basically the norm for PSU (or any other program) over the years.And what is the attrition rate for OL leaving PSU's program over the same time span?
Perhaps we need a Mike Munchak or Dick Anderson or protege of theirs to work with the OL?
Because they are all 5 and high-4 star recruits. We have one Menet coming, but they have 10.
Ohio State QB's are mobile, if you watched the game last night, they have to run to escape sacs. No OL can stop a blitz 100%, QB has to manage it. Do not forget Ohio State QB's have suffered serious injuries in the past.
Penn State has to beat the blitzes with better game planning and quick releases.
So, you are saying OSU has 25 OL on scholarship? Seriously..... hmmmmm .....I think it is get a grip time.
They are not YOUNG guys most have been in the program for 3 years !!! They are men AND 4-5 star guys. The team is 2-3 deep across the board. We were once like that back in the 90's.
I still believe Franklin can get us there once again, he does NOT have the pieces, players and "some" coaches.
All this excuse about how long it takes to play on the offensive line is BS. TJ Clemmings in Pittsburgh was playing DE and only started as DE in his RS SOph year but in his junior year was asked to play OT. Clemmings started his junior and senior year, as well, as being drafted 4 th round. He converted to the OL over 1 summer.I covered this last year and will repeat this again. Last year OSU had "two converted DL" and two 3 star starting on their OL. Sound familiar??? It should since it is Almost the exact talent we had. The first game against VT they were less then stellar which is the only reason VT won the game. After that, they were "lights out" for the rest of the year. They even had that Bama DL sucking wind as Elliott pounded the ball time and again.
No more excuses this year for this freaking horrible OL play. For Christ sake, even VT looked descent with their 3 star 5.5 OL against one of the best overall defenses in the country. Did anyone watch NC/SC the other night??? Look at that OL blocking! Both would destroy this team.
This OL gets "no more excuses" since it only lets them continue to fail which should not be the case with the talent we have. It doesn't take that long for an DL to convert to the OL. Look at the Eagles All Pro LT; he never played the position in college. How about Miami??? Always recruiting DL to play on their OL. How about Levi Brown? Did it take him 3/4 years to learn how to play LT???
No more excuses, none......
I covered this last year and will repeat this again. Last year OSU had "two converted DL" and two 3 star starting on their OL. Sound familiar??? It should since it is Almost the exact talent we had. The first game against VT they were less then stellar which is the only reason VT won the game. After that, they were "lights out" for the rest of the year. They even had that Bama DL sucking wind as Elliott pounded the ball time and again.
No more excuses this year for this freaking horrible OL play. For Christ sake, even VT looked descent with their 3 star 5.5 OL against one of the best overall defenses in the country. Did anyone watch NC/SC the other night??? Look at that OL blocking! Both would destroy this team.
This OL gets "no more excuses" since it only lets them continue to fail which should not be the case with the talent we have. It doesn't take that long for an DL to convert to the OL. Look at the Eagles All Pro LT; he never played the position in college. How about Miami??? Always recruiting DL to play on their OL. How about Levi Brown? Did it take him 3/4 years to learn how to play LT???
No more excuses, none......
Their coaches are a proven commodity and better in every measurable way right now. Hoping that will even out over time.can only get our Quarterback killed. Didn't someone from Penn State go to Ohio State to coach the offensive line?
I covered this last year and will repeat this again. Last year OSU had "two converted DL" and two 3 star starting on their OL. Sound familiar??? It should since it is Almost the exact talent we had. The first game against VT they were less then stellar which is the only reason VT won the game. After that, they were "lights out" for the rest of the year. They even had that Bama DL sucking wind as Elliott pounded the ball time and again.
No more excuses this year for this freaking horrible OL play. For Christ sake, even VT looked descent with their 3 star 5.5 OL against one of the best overall defenses in the country. Did anyone watch NC/SC the other night??? Look at that OL blocking! Both would destroy this team.
This OL gets "no more excuses" since it only lets them continue to fail which should not be the case with the talent we have. It doesn't take that long for an DL to convert to the OL. Look at the Eagles All Pro LT; he never played the position in college. How about Miami??? Always recruiting DL to play on their OL. How about Levi Brown? Did it take him 3/4 years to learn how to play LT???
No more excuses, none......
They are not YOUNG guys most have been in the program for 3 years !!! They are men AND 4-5 star guys. The team is 2-3 deep across the board. We were once like that back in the 90's.
I still believe Franklin can get us there once again, he does NOT have the pieces, players and "some" coaches.
Despite what some are saying OSUs OL last year was not "young". Seven of the ten on their 2 deep were in the program for 3 years. NOT young. What was said was that they lacked "starting' experience. Very different than what PSU faced.
They are not YOUNG guys most have been in the program for 3 years !!! .