Whiniest Big 10 Coach
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He's so full of crap, his eyes are brown.
Does anyone believe Ryan has been a passive victim here?
Or would he, for example, have been all over Davison if Feldman were out for the year?
Wasn't Ryan one of the coaches screaming at the refs for a challenge during Mesenbrinks destruction of Caliendo at Bigs this year? Wasn't that bizarre? Mesenbrink was like 14 points ahead on his way to a tech fall and a bunch of coaches were arguing against a totally meaningless takedown in the third period, or what exactly was that all about? I don't think Brands even challenged it but a bunch of coaches not even involved in it were yelling at the ref? Just wow, talk about hatred envy and whining all rolled into one.
Coaches should never be this stupid.
So we add Ryan to the list of clowns who are reduced to whining for asterisks
Coaches should be on X for 2 reasons, happy birthdays and congratulations comments.
Here’s the thing:
If he’s also chasing transfers, he’s a hypocrite.
If he’s not, he’s a terrible coach.
At Iowa for 1991 and 1992 NCAAs only. I understand the joke, but he's from Long Island and spent his first two years at Syracuse. He trasferred to Iowa as a junior. He is reported to have said he was willing to walk on.
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To my recollection, PSU had no transfers that year. What was his excuse then?
Amazing to me that a coach who finished 8th and was 110 points behind the 1st place team even has the time to be posting on twitter. He should be concentrating on how to improve his team. The ultimate whining twitter post.
Exactly. You do everything legally possible to field the best team. I'm old school and believe in the recruiting process and cheering guys on for 5 years, but there is nothing wrong with adding guys through alternative methods.
Even CP is pointing out the hypocrisy publicly.
When Pyles gives you shade, you must really be a hypocrite. Love the❤️touch at the end. I only send that emoji to my wife, so Tom and CP must have something special going on.
I honestly can't believe Ryan is on X posting this bullsh&t, even last night. Walk Away Coach! Walk Away.
I’d have to look back to make sure, but off the top of my head I know we had Kuhn at 125 and what I’m not 100 percent on is if we had Keener that year too or not…but yes, we had transfers that year in the lineup for sure.
Our lineup vs OSU in the dual was this I’m pretty sure -
Kuhn (transfer)
Keener (transfer)
Lee
Zain
Pipher?
Cenzo
Marky
Bo
Cassar
Nevills
Ryan was a transfer -- and bailed on Syracuse 10 years before the school cut the program.
What was Ryan's quote the year of the match of the century, Penn State has a great team but we have a great program?
Something like that.
Something like that.
He’s just mad Kuhn threw NATO through the Blaise Alexander sign.
I never said they were impactful transfers, but yes, they were still transfers.
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It’s funny, I’ve seen very little if any chest pounding from PSU over the points record, yet Ryan is spending his time on Twitter 2 weeks later crying about it. It’s good to be the king!
An lost the nationals on a move Bo's been doing since grade school.
Yep, we win 2018 nationals with or without transfers.
Maybe Ryan wins the duals because our next guys give up more bonus ... then again, Jason Nolf. I'll take that trade.
And that's the other thing which makes this so funny: Ryan bitching about the points record.
Take away our transfers, we lose 58.5 pts. (Of course we recover some of that with Bearclaw, and Snacks doesn't transfer, etc. Whatever.) We still beat Cornell by 40+ pts.
So we're the champs regardless, and Ryan is wasting oxygen on how ridiculous the margin of victory was.
Kenny Courts is still right:
Who tweets too much on your team – Tom Ryan
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He’s one of Gable’s boys ( a transfer from Syracuse no less - wonder if he got that sweet, bogus in-state scholarship equivalence), so he’s defending Gable’s turf. Expect him to be getting real salty if Cael passes Gable with 16 titles.And that's the other thing which makes this so funny: Ryan bitching about the points record.
Take away our transfers, we lose 58.5 pts. (Of course we recover some of that with Bearclaw, and Snacks doesn't transfer, etc. Whatever.) We still beat Cornell by 40+ pts.
So we're the champs regardless, and Ryan is wasting oxygen on how ridiculous the margin of victory was.
Kenny Courts is still right:
Who tweets too much on your team – Tom Ryan
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I guess in my mind there I have a lot more respect for guys who recruit, stay loyal to, and develop the kids. That is the gist of what I was trying to say. I know Virginia Tech and ASU have gotten some kids from the portal and it diminishes the team's accomplishments in my mind.
I also know it is the way things are and I am just getting old and crabby. "NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!""
The other funny thing is that when his name is mentioned on the Iowa board, they don't want him back.
I am trying to give my views on the portal and NIL and how it is simply a case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. I am just saying that setting records or getting trophies for many schools is not an indication of how good the coach is.
Michigan is a perfect example. Let someone else do all the hard work and quality work and then I will swoop in and take the glory: Look at my team trophy. Okie state seems to be trying to follow that model also.
My opinion of Cael as a coach and athlete is still of the highest regard. While I think the portal and NIL is hurting and may eventually destroy wrestling, I think Cael is elevating the sport and may help save it. Sure he has a few portal kids, but they are a small fraction of his team points.
We like to live in a world where we thing some things are pure and noble. College wrestling used to be that way to an extent. Now with the portal, kids are leaving for money (greed). Loyalty seems to be non existent. The weak and poor schools are getting every shining light and bit of success taken away from them by the rich and powerful.
It is kind of sad to me.
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He chased transfers before it was a thing.
We were just talking about Tom Ryan leaving Syracuse for Iowa in the early 1990s, and **now** there's no loyalty and the weak schools are getting ruined by the rich and powerful?
Also all those guys who left VT for Iowa when Brands left.
The portal caused none of these things. It's just a convenient scapegoat.
Kids have learned loyalty from their coaches, who often jump ship for a more lucrative offer after just promising the recruit they'd be there for them throughout their career. I'm thinking football but that applies to all sports. The universities, alumni, and coaches created the blueprint for how collegiate sports will be destroyed now that athletes are doing the same things. You reap what you sow. It is also only a matter of time before an athlete somewhere point shaves as a "thank you" for all that money.
Re: point shaving. So easy to do if you don’t overdo it - on the player and bettor side (Pigs get fat; hogs get slaughtered). Same as insider trading
It's the Wild West now, but when the pendulum swings back, and it will, it will be the Feds regulating NIL and controlling enforcement. If you think the NCAA was bad, just wait for a govt arm with subpeona power looking over your shoulder.
I still hold the Alexander Family of Dealerships responsible for Kuhn's loss that day 😅😉. Cheap ass sign.😁
