Urban Meyer on Fox
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He's good at the job. He's an analyst--who cares if he's a good guy or not.
You may not like him personally, nor do I, but he is insightful and knows football. A few weeks ago he was on a pregame show explaining offensive line play, it was fascinating, no question he knows football. In spite of baggage, you probably would take him as your coach.
Urban is a winner, like him or not!
Don't get me wrong--his teams at Florida included some of the worst human being to ever play the sport but the man does win. Winning typically overrides anything unless you have to go due to sanctions
Fair enough--I'd take Urban in a second because he would dominate recruiting in NY, PA, MD and VA plus add top kids from places like Florida and Texas. He'd take us to another level and then whomever follows just has to sustain it. Easier said than done but easier than getting there.
Do we basically dominate them? I feel like we don't get the top guys other than for 2022 especially in PA.
You all know this as well as I do, but Urb has always liked Penn State as a destination and there was a lot of talk about him replacing Joe at one point. (until of course the stuff blew up in 2011).
But if Franklin left, wouldn't your administration immediately hire Rhule? I think he'd be fantastic.
Urb is one of the best ever, no doubt. He has some character flaws to say the least. But that dude turns programs around and builds contenders as well as anybody I've ever seen. I love Ryan Day as a person far, far more. But I'll admit that I miss the toughness and edge we had with Urb's teams.
To be clear, I never said it was a done deal. Only that when Meyer was getting the itch to come back -- during the 2011 season -- Penn State would have been an attractive option had Joe announced his retirement earlier and worked to find an eventual replacement. But once it was clear that OSU wasn't retaining Fickell, that was the #1 job on Urb's checklist.
Point being, PSU is a job that Urb really respects and could be tempted to take if available. Other than OSU (if Day bolts for the NFL), the jobs I could see him considering would be Notre Dame, Penn State, and Texas. That is of course if he comes back to coaching. Not saying those schools would actually want him after the Jacksonville fiasco.
The Texas job was available and I believe UT and Meyer couldn't come to some sort of initial agreement and they went with Sarkisian.
Not sure Day would have success if it wasn't for Urban setting up the program? Doubt it.....
He's great at winning college football games, no doubt. But as a fan, is it so important to you that your team wins that you would want him representing your school? Thankfully, there are still a few fans (a minority perhaps) who still think that things such as character and moral standing help define us.
Something like 16 of the 22 starters on the championship team were drafted by the NFL. Extremely talented team. Check out 01,02 and particularly 03 buckeyes who played as sophomores.
Joe Paterno hand picked him as successor. How is that for moral character?
Add Ohio to that list.
We’ve been conditioned to hate Urban. That doesn’t mean we should.
Who Joe Paterno hand picked to succeed him.
Joe Paterno also hired Jerry Sandusky. Even the wisest of men can't always predict what kind of person someone will reveal himself to be.
Why does that matter?
He's an analyst or a football coach not the pope. We have far worse people we elect to run the country on both sides.
True but the concern with Meyer isn't his coaching, right? It's him "morality" which supposedly Paterno is the expert on
We have had far worse people as popes as well
Oh completely agreed but Urban, at the time, was the best or second best coach in college football. Hard to argue with wanting him as the next guy if you ignore the morality nonsense.
Yeah, Schiano seems the most plausible to me as well with Cowher or Dungy seeming the least likely. Meyer does make sense though--so did Spurrier
I could have respected your opinion if you had said most people or not many people. When you say "literally no one", it shows you're very out of touch with reality.
It's very, very sad if you think moral standing shouldn't matter in choosing a college football coach. Culture could end up being the downfall of this country.
No one in a decision-making role if you prefer. I don't care if you or I care about it. Those that hire do so to win.
It shouldn't matter and it doesn't. I would get into the culture discussion with you but that seems like a test board discussion.
No, why does it matter?
This isn't little league. The big business here. Let's call college football what it is. How much money is it generating for Penn State. You hire the best guy for the job. These kids coming to Penn State to play football aren't looking for an education but they're looking to play in the NFL. Don't fool yourself. Meyer can help them accomplish that goal.
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