hey would now be a good time to remind this bozo that even the OAG, in their amended complaint, admitted they were not required to report ANYTHING in 2001??
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hey would now be a good time to remind this bozo that even the OAG, in their amended complaint, admitted they were not required to report ANYTHING in 2001??
"we" = the people on this board. I think almost everyone here did not think the appeal would get this far.
Did you think it would get this far? If you did, then you are part of my "we."
Just wondering how many who testified changed their stories from "no abuse" to what they said under oath at trial? They didn't know one another did they? I hope they didn't have the same lawyer and a visit to a therapist that specializes in "mining" for memories.
I am cheering for the pedophile to stay in jail. Only in your warped mind would one make such a stupid leap.No, you're the guy who's cheering for scores of young boys, who may not have been sexually molested, to have actually been sexually molested.
I don't know if Jerry is guilty and frankly, unless he abused you, you don't either.
We know he was found guilty in court.
We also know that there were some extremely questionable things that happened before and during his trial to the extent that he might actually get a new trial (which is very rare, so that tells you how messed up these "questionable" things were).
My strong suspicion is that Jerry committed illegal acts as it relates to children. I do not know the severity of this (a naked bear hug and forced sodomy, while both wrong/illegal are a different ends of the abuse spectrum) and I have reason to question some of the testimony which convicted him of the more heinous acts. So, yes, my gut feeling is that he should probably be in jail, although probably with a shorter sentence that what he currently has.
To be honest, I don't really care that much about Jerry, other than the fact that I was friends with his daughter (Kara) when I was at PSU and I'm friends with some former players who played for him. This has obviously been very hard on the family and on those who knew Jerry well. If he's been convicted of worse things than he actually perpetrated, I think they would all like to know that.
Where this concerns me more is as it relates to the PSU administrators. I strongly believe that PSU was unjustly brought into this case in order to attempt to strengthen a weak case against Sandusky. This was done in two ways: 1) by polluting the jury pool via the media (if you recall correctly, JVP was initially praised by the OAG, but then when the realized the needed more media bias, they started saying things about his moral duty) and 2) by making sure that CSS couldn't testify at the Sandusky trial (they would have weakened Victim 2 case greatly and they needed the victim 2 case because it was the only real case with 3rd party corroboration)
So if Jerry turned out to be innocent of the charges that pertained to PSU (only some of the charges), then this makes this even more of sham that PSU has been dragged through the mud in all of this.
Osprey apparently thinks that if you pile bullshit high enough - it stops stinking
No, you're the guy who's cheering for scores of young boys, who may not have been sexually molested, to have actually been sexually molested.
Again, you don't know that. If he is exonerated on the charges related to PSU, how is that bad for PSU?
You are really thick. Let's pretend he is exonerated of those charges. The facts of MM reporting
suspected sexual abuse and the actions taken thereafter remain the same. If you think the media
and public opinion will suddenly change, you are sadly mistaken. And as stated
earlier, the downside is PSU will be getting negative ink for the duration of the retrial.
It is not a fact that MM reported suspected sexual abuse. Nothing in the actual evidence from 2001 supports this fantasy!
Why confuse you with facts?Keep wondering. When you have an answer, let us know.
Show me the evidence!Only an idiot would say that. You qualify as evidenced by those who "liked" your inane statement.
It was all made up! This was just one big lie and smear campaign. Everyone is in on it!!!! Keep it on the down low!!! LOL @ this crap!!!Only an idiot would say that. You qualify as evidenced by those who "liked" your inane statement.
MM testified that he witnessed suspected CSA. That is evidence whether you want to accept it or not. Paterno agreed as wellShow me the evidence!
Yes, he suspected CSA.He testified he didn't see any abuse. Just a situation where he assumed abuse would be occurring.
MM testified that he witnessed suspected CSA. That is evidence whether you want to accept it or not. Paterno agreed as well
I don't care what he said ten years later. I'm talking about actual evidence from 2001.MM testified that he witnessed suspected CSA. That is evidence whether you want to accept it or not. Paterno agreed as well
I'm talking about your inability to read and now trying to hide it by claiming I and coveydidnt
are one in the same.
That didn't really help clear things up. Please better articulate your delusions.
Yes, he suspected CSA.
Then you are totally ignoring the child abusing billing from the attorney.I don't care what he said ten years later. I'm talking about actual evidence from 2001.
I'm saying that the emails and notes from 2001 corroborate the testimonies of Curley and Schultz, refuting what Mike now says. Feel free to challenge my assertion.
It doesn't matter what he attributed it to, the fact remains that he suspected CSA and under today's law, it would need to be reported to authorities.Which was attributed to the slapping sounds he heard. And we all know there is no other possible explanation for those slapping sounds but a boy being sodomized. It's probably defined in Webster's dictionary as such.
Then you are totally ignoring the child abusing billing from the attorney.
And you can't just ignore testimony, it's evidence.
They needed that advise because they expected child abuse. Unless you think the lawyer just put it on the bill for shits and giggles.Sandusky had a 5 year agreement allowing him to bring kids from TSM to the facilities as part of his retirement deal (Friends Fitness Program). It was in writing. They needed legal advice if they were going to break that agreement.
You ignore the testimonies of Curley and Schultz!
They needed that advise because they expected child abuse.....
The emails and notes from 2001 do not support this assertion. Prove me wrong!
Why did the attorney describe it as suspected child abuse then if it wasn't? How do you reconcile that with your view point?The emails and notes from 2001 do not support this assertion. Prove me wrong!
The sane people on this board never thought or cared about his appeal. Your "we" is crazy.
Yes, he suspected CSA.
If he didn't, legal council would have never been involved.He did not convey that to anyone in 2001.
That's the problem.
If he didn't, legal council would have never been involved.