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Beau just lost. 8-6 after being up 5-1.
He got up by 4 (with 5 push outs) and inexplicably started backing up. D’Emilio seemed to get energized and got a takedown before the end of the first Period. Then Beau was put on the clock and gave up a 4 while on the clock, making it 8-5.
Very frustrating and mind-boggling. Wonder if he got dinged up or something.
He got up by 4 (with 5 push outs) and inexplicably started backing up. D’Emilio seemed to get energized and got a takedown before the end of the first Period. Then Beau was put on the clock and gave up a 4 while on the clock, making it 8-5.
Very frustrating and mind-boggling. Wonder if he got dinged up or something.
Strange match. Beau pushed him around but only got 1s. Got put on shot clock up 5-3. Really pressed in and got dumped for 4 plus the shot clock point and was down 8-5. Got another push out that probably should have 1+1 and a caution and would've made it a one score match. Only got 1. Not a lot of urgency at the end.
Maybe I’m wrong and he just doesn’t have it. That wasn’t particularly encouraging.
I was thinking the same thing, but was retisant to post it. Something is off.
Boy if that wasn't a typical BB match. I thought down a weight he would easily handle wrestlers of that caliber. Very disappointing.
I’m still not all the way out, but that was super disappointing to watch.
Well one thing is for certain, if Bartlett is the best 141 pounder on the team then he will be the man. If he isn't, then someone else will need to step up and win the wrestle off. This is Penn State, and this is Cael.
Facundo has the cauliflower ear of a wrestler ten years his senior.I think this interview is free:
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Definite LOL moment near the end when Alex mentions his opponent trying something tactical against him that his training partners do very well....
Anyone know who the interviewer is? Says she's a PSU Alum. I wish we had more women in wrestling media, honestly.
Beau will be as great as he wants to be. The talent is there and he is by far the best 141 on the team. What he needs is a mind meld with Jason. I was his biggest booster when he was a recruit.
Confidence in your ability trumping caution for your openent's skill, is a fine line that some never master (Gulliban).
We have all been saying it for two years, we would rather he lose 10-8 going balls out and being aggressive than play it conservative and win or lose with a late takedown.
Some thing's can't be taught. That said this wasnt his MO in highschool, count me as somewhat baffled.
Confidence in your ability trumping caution for your openent's skill, is a fine line that some never master (Gulliban).
We have all been saying it for two years, we would rather he lose 10-8 going balls out and being aggressive than play it conservative and win or lose with a late takedown.
Some thing's can't be taught. That said this wasnt his MO in highschool, count me as somewhat baffled.
Evenly rested and folkstyle may change prior results
D’Emilio isn’t a slouch and is certainly better in Freestyle than folk.
Still, not encouraging.
Still, not encouraging.
My last day of following U20/U23 in total relaxation. South of the border in PV. Thanks guys for all of the PBP and content.
5 day guys only fishing weekend. We went for mahi mahi and Marlin, but came back with a mix of much smaller stuff. I kept telling the Capitan to be more aggressive, if you don't shoot you don't win. Something was lost in translation.
5 day guys only fishing weekend. We went for mahi mahi and Marlin, but came back with a mix of much smaller stuff. I kept telling the Capitan to be more aggressive, if you don't shoot you don't win. Something was lost in translation.
What's frustrating is he was pushing D'Emilio around so why change strategy and start backing up. Definitely in his head. He's the only one that can pull himself out of this tendancy.
think i posted this a couple months ago, but the bartlett situation reminds me a lot of cash wilcke. shows flashes wrestling up a weight against much bigger wrestlers. we thought moving down to 184 would solve some of his weaknesses and he would be a top 5 guy. he ended up being about the same. solid, good enough to AA, but on the outside looking in (got totally robbed against max dean). but the moral of the story is moving down didn't change who he was as a wrestler.
bartlett was a much more highly touted recruit than wilcke, but wilcke had more success at 197 than bartlett had at 149. could be different. who knows? but i've had this thought for a while. i don't think you guys need him next year, so not that big a deal from that perspective. my guess is he's a fringe AA candidate with upside. fortunately for him, it's a weak weight, 100x weaker than the 184 weight wilcke moved down to.
bartlett was a much more highly touted recruit than wilcke, but wilcke had more success at 197 than bartlett had at 149. could be different. who knows? but i've had this thought for a while. i don't think you guys need him next year, so not that big a deal from that perspective. my guess is he's a fringe AA candidate with upside. fortunately for him, it's a weak weight, 100x weaker than the 184 weight wilcke moved down to.
This is all very fair.
I’m not even in the camp that this is a big upset, maybe not even an upset at all. I was hoping to get to the point where beating good guys (and D’Emilio is good- not great but good) is something we expect from BB. Just not there yet.
Beau did have two years of wrestling bigger and longer guys. He has two years of tendencies to unlearn. That is my glass half full evaluation.
So how will it work if both Joe and Matt Lee win their blood round matches and land opposite each other in the next round?
D'emilio, more so than anyone on the team, has benefited from Steiber being on the coaching staff. He has improved, a lot, over the past year, especially in technique. Last season he hit a Steiber move to pin the Rutgers kid who was ranked above him.
Also, he has the same endless gas tank that Nick Lee has, so he is often best at the end of matches. In the previous round, he beat Decatur with a late 4 on the edge to take the lead.
He has always been a pretty good freestyle wrestler as well. Former cadet world team member.
IMHO, he has improved enough to be a low-AA in the right bracket.
I fully expected Bartlett to win, but after seeing the late TD at the end of the 1st, I knew Dylan had a chance with his gas tank. I have no idea what Beau's plan was, but it seemed he was happy just to go all Ryan Anderson mode and try to win on push outs.
Not sure how this extrapolates to folk, as without the push out point, Beau would have wrestled very different.
Bartlett advances. He gave up 2 passivity points, but got 3 points late to win. Gets Lovett.
Yep, had a 5-1 lead (could have been 7-1, two offered but not confirmed). Got off balance and taken down to his back and couldn't get off.
Same guy, Justin McCoy, beat Matt Lee 17-4 after it being tight at 5-4 and running off a bunch in a row. Matt Lee will wrestle for 7th, Joe is done.
Man you all take freestyle results way to seriously. Folk is a different animal, wait till we see BB results this season.
Lovett over Beau 6-0. Not close to a takedown.......but if was folkstyle he would have had a bunch. 
Beau loses to Lovett 6-0 in a match he never really threatened at all
Don’t you know - we’re doomed. Just wait until an early dual and Bearclaw gets pinned
Opposing fans piling on during the off-season. Makes it all the more fun when we blindside them at nationals
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With Robbie so injury prone and Beau having such a poor showing, I started thinking about the absence of Shane Van Ness. What are the chances that Shane wrestles in November?
There shouldn’t be any reason he wouldn’t. Was always pencilled in at 149.
After wrestling all day long while Mesenbrink sat on his butt and rested. I’ll take the rematch.
watched the last minute he didnt take one shot did he think he was winning?very poor job there
Bartlett beating Carlson is a really good win however. Carlson was ranked around 5th for most of the year. Beat Andrew Alirez multiple times and also beat Allan Hart. Took a bad loss at NCAA’s to Tal-Shahar but went 3-2 with his last loss a 6-2 decision to Seabass. D’Emilio beating Josh Saunders shows that he is a really good freestyler as well. Saunders has his limits in folk but he is a very good freestyler. I’m actually fairly encouraged after Bartlett’s showing this weekend
i was thinking about this earlier. are there examples of guys who came in defensive specialists like bartlett and cael developed into offensive dynamos? off the top of my head i can't think of any. seems like he elevates the offensive guys to insane levels, but the less aggressive wrestlers have stayed pretty middling. good, but not great. i'm thinking of bartlett, berge, mccutcheon, verkleeren. facundo and howard in their limited sample sizes (i know facundo looked good this spring, but he didn't wrestle anybody of ncaa qualifier level at either tourny).
the one counter example that comes to mind is starocci.
editing to say i don't think this is a knock on cael. more an observation of how hard it is to get guys to change their styles. i don't think you'd find more success doing so at other programs.
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