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tOSU investigation elected not to try to recover deleted texts

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CLICK HERE for a WSJ article about this.

From the article:

The day Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer was placed on administrative leave over his handling of abuse allegations against a longtime assistant, he asked a colleague how to delete old text messages from his university mobile phone, outside investigators hired by the university said in a report released last month.

Yet the legal team investigating Mr. Meyer’s conduct, led by former Securities and Exchange Commission chairwoman Mary Jo White, decided not to send Mr. Meyer’s phone to a forensics lab to determine if he actually destroyed evidence, according to two people familiar with the matter.

These people said that investigators also did not seek to extract deleted text messages from the phone of Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith, who handed over a device that contained no texts. The AD’s explanation was that he routinely deletes all texts after sending or receiving them, these people said. Such a practice may violate both Ohio open records law and the school’s records-retention policy, experts say.


In yet the height of irony, the WSJ article has comments from Louie Freeh about thorough investigations:

"It’s just essential,” said Louis Freeh, the former FBI director hired by Penn State in 2011 to investigate the school’s role in the sexual abuse scandal involving former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky. Speaking generally about the use of forensics labs in these types of investigations, Mr. Freeh said, “You can’t really do a thorough, credible job without doing that.

Amazing that Freeh, the expert at doing investigations that are neither thorough nor credible, would be used as an expert to comment in the article, and that he could make such a statement.

smh
 
CLICK HERE for a WSJ article about this.

From the article:

The day Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer was placed on administrative leave over his handling of abuse allegations against a longtime assistant, he asked a colleague how to delete old text messages from his university mobile phone, outside investigators hired by the university said in a report released last month.

Yet the legal team investigating Mr. Meyer’s conduct, led by former Securities and Exchange Commission chairwoman Mary Jo White, decided not to send Mr. Meyer’s phone to a forensics lab to determine if he actually destroyed evidence, according to two people familiar with the matter.

These people said that investigators also did not seek to extract deleted text messages from the phone of Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith, who handed over a device that contained no texts. The AD’s explanation was that he routinely deletes all texts after sending or receiving them, these people said. Such a practice may violate both Ohio open records law and the school’s records-retention policy, experts say.


In yet the height of irony, the WSJ article has comments from Louie Freeh about thorough investigations:

"It’s just essential,” said Louis Freeh, the former FBI director hired by Penn State in 2011 to investigate the school’s role in the sexual abuse scandal involving former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky. Speaking generally about the use of forensics labs in these types of investigations, Mr. Freeh said, “You can’t really do a thorough, credible job without doing that.

Amazing that Freeh, the expert at doing investigations that are neither thorough nor credible, would be used as an expert to comment in the article, and that he could make such a statement.

smh
The last text that Urban Meyer received before he handed in his phone was a text from the OSU IT dept. explaining how to delete texts.
 
They learned from the MSU playbook. Stick your head in the sand, dig your heels in, and the media will move on.
 
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CLICK HERE for a WSJ article about this.

From the article:

The day Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer was placed on administrative leave over his handling of abuse allegations against a longtime assistant, he asked a colleague how to delete old text messages from his university mobile phone, outside investigators hired by the university said in a report released last month.

Yet the legal team investigating Mr. Meyer’s conduct, led by former Securities and Exchange Commission chairwoman Mary Jo White, decided not to send Mr. Meyer’s phone to a forensics lab to determine if he actually destroyed evidence, according to two people familiar with the matter.

These people said that investigators also did not seek to extract deleted text messages from the phone of Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith, who handed over a device that contained no texts. The AD’s explanation was that he routinely deletes all texts after sending or receiving them, these people said. Such a practice may violate both Ohio open records law and the school’s records-retention policy, experts say.


In yet the height of irony, the WSJ article has comments from Louie Freeh about thorough investigations:

"It’s just essential,” said Louis Freeh, the former FBI director hired by Penn State in 2011 to investigate the school’s role in the sexual abuse scandal involving former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky. Speaking generally about the use of forensics labs in these types of investigations, Mr. Freeh said, “You can’t really do a thorough, credible job without doing that.

Amazing that Freeh, the expert at doing investigations that are neither thorough nor credible, would be used as an expert to comment in the article, and that he could make such a statement.

drip, drip, drip.....
 
Who even needs the texts to know Urban is a liar? How many guys here have wives that not would mention to you if your good friend just beat up his wife yet again. I thought so. He doubled down on the lie during the interview. Someone needs to get Shelley on air asap. Let's hear her explain it? C'mon ESPN..do your job.
 
These people said that investigators also did not seek to extract deleted text messages from the phone of Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith, who handed over a device that contained no texts. The AD’s explanation was that he routinely deletes all texts after sending or receiving them, these people said.

Of course, this paragon of virtue is on the College Football Playoff committee. Because why not?

Radio F*cking Silence about the Ohio State culture from Delaney and Emmert.
 
Possibly he didn't TECHNICALLY delete texts on his company phone. Maybe he didn't TECHNICALLY instruct someone else to delete texts on his company phone. Theoretically he could have TECHNICALLY held a Buckeye Nation scavenger hunt where 1st prize is allowed to delete the texts on his company phone. This provides the winner access to Urbs private texts (orgasmic in buckeye nation) and allows the heroic act of deleting them thereby saving the stellar reputation of Urbs while TECHNICALLY absolving him of all sins, technically. We live in such a technical world, at least in buckeye nation.
 
Let the articles continue right up until game day on September 29th. Distractions are good, when it's the other team dealing with them.
 
Who even needs the texts to know Urban is a liar? How many guys here have wives that not would mention to you if your good friend just beat up his wife yet again. I thought so. He doubled down on the lie during the interview. Someone needs to get Shelley on air asap. Let's hear her explain it? C'mon ESPN..do your job.

And not just his good friend but one of his employees whose behavior could cause significant damage. Heck, if Shelley DIDN'T tell Urban about it I'd really question what kind of a wife she was and why she wasn't trying to protect him.
 
Urban will be gone because he is now a detriment to Ohio St football. No one can trust him at this point because he lacks all credibility on anything. Players, Coaches, Recruits, Parents, Ohio St Admin, who is going to trust him? To make it work until after signing day, then announce.
 
Let the articles continue right up until game day on September 29th. Distractions are good, when it's the other team dealing with them.

Who do you think is being distracted, the players? They dont care about this and they arent reading about this. The players are talking about how Meyer is their culture.
 
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Well OSU and Penn State have something in common with their “independent” investigations. Neither “investigation” was independent. However, the non-independent investigations were polar opposites with respect to how things were handled.

OSU had university board members involved in theirs, which by definition is NOT independent and biased in favor of OSU (a predetermined result pro UM). The NCAA met with Freeh’s team at the outset, making the investigation no longer independent and biased against Penn State with a predetermined outcome against JoePa.
 
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The two took opposite approach to reaching the desired result.

At PSU, they found nothing, but exaggerated everything to meet the desired outcome
At OSU, they found a ton, but downplayed everything to meet the desired outcome
 
Possibly he didn't TECHNICALLY delete texts on his company phone. Maybe he didn't TECHNICALLY instruct someone else to delete texts on his company phone. Theoretically he could have TECHNICALLY held a Buckeye Nation scavenger hunt where 1st prize is allowed to delete the texts on his company phone. This provides the winner access to Urbs private texts (orgasmic in buckeye nation) and allows the heroic act of deleting them thereby saving the stellar reputation of Urbs while TECHNICALLY absolving him of all sins, technically. We live in such a technical world, at least in buckeye nation.

Probably went something like this:

Tech Guy (forget his name and not looking it up): "Hey Urbs, I just saw this article online that really paints you in a negative light. There is mention about text messages between Courtney Smith and Shelley about Zach abusing Courtney. Have you heard about this? Do you have a lot of text messages on your phone?"

Urbs: "Yeah I have a lot."

Tech Guy: "Are they over a year old? This article says this happened in 2015"

Urbs: "Yeah, there are old ones."

Tech Guy: "You know you can automatically delete texts over a year old?"

Urbs: "That is interesting, can you show me how it is done?"

Tech Guy: "Sure, give me your phone. I'll show you."

Urbs hands over his phone, Tech Guy adjusts settings... BOOM

Urbs never asked him to do it, he never instructed him to do it, he asked him to show him how to adjust the settings. He didn't know adjusting the settings would perform the deletion as soon as it was set.
 
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But But But But Urban claims he didn't delete any texts
That's right!

This is Urban Meyer in a planned "interview." Urban claims HE didn't delete any texts. Of course he didn't! He also didn't address the inconvenient details of the entire thread of released text messages evidencing the plan. Two gals handled it for him.
 
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