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Rhoades to PSU?
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VCU isn't the better job but VCU has had far more success in basketball than Penn State. This won't be easy for Rhoades.
if he can keep Njie and Clary that's two starters. If he can re-recruit Booth that's three. Mahaffey could stay too, don't know if he's a starter
so yes he has to go very heavily into the portal but i don't think it's going to be for the whole lineup
also some of the portal could be coming from his current team, so he would have a head start there
didn't say that
i am saying he may only need to go to the portal for two starters
i think it was someone named TexasLion
they flat out stated that VCU is a better job and we couldn't get him. another post, maybe the same person, said it wasnt even realistic to talk about him as a candidate
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So is this actually happening? All we got is one guy with second hand info from plugged in sources. How confident is anyone?
i will say this, if it doesn't happen now Kraft is seriously in the L column on this process.
Too many forget this fact about historical mediocrity. We are Penn State has had a much different meaning in bball! This is a good hire.
There are a few guys that I’d take ahead of Rhoades, but not many. He’d be a solid choice if this ends up happening.
Interesting that Jamal Brunt (VCU’s top assistant) coached with Adam Fisher for a few years at Miami. Don’t usually see many coaches hang around during turnover, but assuming that Brunt came with Rhoades, at least there is some connection there with Adam (who I’d love to keep, just not as a head coach).
Interesting that Jamal Brunt (VCU’s top assistant) coached with Adam Fisher for a few years at Miami. Don’t usually see many coaches hang around during turnover, but assuming that Brunt came with Rhoades, at least there is some connection there with Adam (who I’d love to keep, just not as a head coach).
Yes, I’m my lifetime we’ve had Parkhill, Dunn, DeChellis, Chambers and Micah. Rhoades is more accomplished than any of these guys, some significantly so. Realizing of course the pre Big 10 days were a different era.
But Rhoades is arguably the “biggest name” PSU basketball has ever hired.
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IMO
Rhoades > Shrewsberry > Chambers > DeChellis
went in the right direction but took a hell of a long time
the frustrating thing is, they could've started making hires like this as soon as Parkhill left. Certainly after Dunn. But finally we got here
for the record, I think Parkhill was on track to be one of the best coaches in the entire northeast, and it was a shame that ended and got followed up with years of badness
I'll aways be sad that things didn't work out better with Parkhill. He suffered some bad luck when PSU went to the NCAAs in 1991 and then had to play as an independent in 1992 - he had most of his key players back from the '91 season, and the team won 20+ games, but playing as an independent meant that the scheduling numbers were terrible, so no at large bid. That team would probably have won the A10 again and then the lions would be entering the B1G with 2 straight NCAA bids.
It was such a shame. Lots of people are too young to remember. there was a real program being built
That 95-96 team, who knows what it would have done if he was the coach. and the 96-97 team would have been back to the tournament if not for injuries
I've heard two different stories about why he left, it doesn't matter.
After he left it was just bad. I am convinced the AD had no idea what he was doing. And if he did know what he was doing, that's even worse.
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In a season that stood PSU fans on their collective "ears"....didn't basketball finish about 9th in the conference? PSU is far from a destination school for the top coaches in the nation. A good salary will attract an excellent coach laboring at a university that doesn't possess the resources to pay him millions....and has the potential to win . This sounds precisely like that type of hire.
But there's nothing about it.There's two deer statues at where they think the legs of the Colossus were:
The fact that Shrews was an assistant coach for the Celtics is attractive to recruits.
What's wrong with Fisher, btw? Lack of head coaching experience? His resume just improved IMO with Miami's win over Texas. If you can't get the guy you want someone who coached under the guy.
well he has actually been a coach before, for more than 20 years, and had multiple tournament appearances and conference championships. so kind of yeah
yes that's what's keeping him from getting a high major job.
Larranaga going to a final 4 without him doesn't boost his standing like you are saying. Larranaga also went to a Final 4 while this guy was still in college
Yeah, it probably is. Plus he went to 2 national championship games as an assistant. The players may not remember that, but it's something he can sell. I hope Rhoades is a great hire if that's the pick, but I can't say it moves the needle for me because I'd never heard of him to my recollection prior to this search. But I'm not a huge basketball fan, so maybe everyone else knows about him.
Prior HC experience means little though. Kirby Smart was one of the best hires in college football before he ever even coached a game. He could have had numerous HC jobs over the year but waited for the right one. Winning at Penn State is way harder than VCU and the appeal of Shrew can't be underestimated.
My point is he's been an assistant under 2 guys who have been to Final Fours. Shrewsberry had trouble getting a head job before PSU, as I understand it. Some people don't interview well. I don't even know if Fisher is interviewing anywhere, just pointing that out. I guess from where I sit I'd have been fine with Fisher being promoted as it's about the same level of splash to me as hiring Mike Rhoades. Hopefully, in a year or two I'll be singing Kraft's and Rhoades's praises.
Or Shrew didn't want a mid-major job knowing that he'd have to take a lower level job in the Big Ten/ACC/etc he likely waited until he thought it was a good opportunity.
Looks like a good coach, but has had 3 NCAA tournament bids and lost in the first round all 3 times (not counting the D3 stuff at Randolph-Macon, where he made the Sweet 16 a couple of times).
The only reason we hired Shrewsberry instead of someone like Rhoades in 2021 is because we were too cheap to hire someone like Rhoades. We got a discount because Shrewsberry had no D1 coaching record.
Not necessarily true…I would have hired Micah over Rhoades with everything else being equal.
Shrews had no head coaching experience--Rather go with Fisher who has recruited this area for 2 power 5 schools and has roots in Philly than someone who has neither.
Ok, that's fair. My impression right now, and I'd love to be wrong, is that he's the kind of coach who after some time can get us to a place like Iowa - make the tournament consistently, but bow out early. I hope I'm selling him short.
So Georgia hiring Smart wasn't a great hire? HC experience is great but isn't an indicator of future success. Look at all the big name college football programs that went to guys without HC experience. Georgia Oklahoma Notre Dame...the list is never ending. Then look at all the guys that had success as a HC, especially at a smaller school who flopped. Again you're overselling this by ignoring facts.
That might be fair if college basketball success was a direct result solely of a coach's ability to coach. But we all know that NIL, assistant coaches salary structures and funding, the impact the game crowds have due to the playing venue, and even univeristy BOD support among other things also impacts the success of a university's basketball program.
So it seems to me that to reach a higher level of success Kraft must take the reins and improve the support structure for the new BB coach. And if the university does not do that, or doesn't do it to the extent of the competition, the level of which we may not really ever know, judging the success of this or any PSU basketball coache is an inexact science........
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