Remember Solyndra. Given the New Green Deal and Paris Climate accords it's bound to repeat itself. (link)

Cosmos

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Since the failure of the company, Obama’s entire $80 billion clean-technology program has begun to look like a political liability for an administration about to enter a bruising reelection campaign.

Meant to create jobs and cut reliance on foreign oil, Obama’s green-technology program was infused with politics at every level, The Washington Post found in an analysis of thousands of memos, company records and internal e-mails. Political considerations were raised repeatedly by company investors, Energy Department bureaucrats and White House officials.

The records, some previously unreported, show that when warned that financial disaster might lie ahead, the administration remained steadfast in its support for Solyndra.

When Solyndra was mentioned in a meeting, Biden’s office “about had an orgasm.”

Documents show that senior officials pushed career bureaucrats to rush their decision on the loan so Vice President Biden could announce it during a trip to California.

Like most presidential appearances, Obama’s May 2010 stop at Solyndra’s headquarters was closely managed political theater.

Obama’s handlers had lengthy e-mail discussions about how solar panels should be displayed (from a robotic arm, it was decided). They cautioned the company’s chief executive against wearing a suit (he opted for an open-neck shirt and black slacks) and asked another executive to wear a hard hat and white smock. They instructed blue-collar employees to wear everyday work clothes, to preserve what they called “the construction-worker feel.”

Solyndra has failed to attract a buyer who would keep the plant operating, so it is trying to unload its assets piecemeal to pay off its debts. The first $75 million recovered is expected to go to Kaiser’s nonprofit organization and other investors;
it is unclear how much will be left for taxpayers.


Solyndra: Politics infused Obama energy programs - The Washington Post

Fast forward to today...

I had the privilege of implementing President Barack Obama’s demanding ethics vision for his administration, including its centerpiece, his “Day One” executive order setting tough new rules on conflicts of interest. It may seem like a very long time ago after four years of President Donald Trump, but Obama had arguably the most scandal-free presidency in memory owing to those clear ethics rules, backed by strong transparency about their application.

But Biden’s new executive order on ethics does us one better. It restores the fundamentals of the Obama plan, closing loopholes Trump opened—but going further, including new crackdowns on special interest influence. If implemented rigorously (always a big if) Biden’s plan promises to go further to “drain the swamp” than either of his predecessors.


I Wrote President Obama’s Ethics Plan—Biden’s Is Better. (msn.com)

I might be dating myself but an old high school cheer applies to the situation. Whenever a basketball ref made a bad call it went like this: Nuts and Bolts, Nuts and Bolts, we got screwed! You guys will rue the day you voted Biden.

Thank you.
 

RoyalT12

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Since the failure of the company, Obama’s entire $80 billion clean-technology program has begun to look like a political liability for an administration about to enter a bruising reelection campaign.

Meant to create jobs and cut reliance on foreign oil, Obama’s green-technology program was infused with politics at every level, The Washington Post found in an analysis of thousands of memos, company records and internal e-mails. Political considerations were raised repeatedly by company investors, Energy Department bureaucrats and White House officials.

The records, some previously unreported, show that when warned that financial disaster might lie ahead, the administration remained steadfast in its support for Solyndra.

When Solyndra was mentioned in a meeting, Biden’s office “about had an orgasm.”

Documents show that senior officials pushed career bureaucrats to rush their decision on the loan so Vice President Biden could announce it during a trip to California.

Like most presidential appearances, Obama’s May 2010 stop at Solyndra’s headquarters was closely managed political theater.

Obama’s handlers had lengthy e-mail discussions about how solar panels should be displayed (from a robotic arm, it was decided). They cautioned the company’s chief executive against wearing a suit (he opted for an open-neck shirt and black slacks) and asked another executive to wear a hard hat and white smock. They instructed blue-collar employees to wear everyday work clothes, to preserve what they called “the construction-worker feel.”

Solyndra has failed to attract a buyer who would keep the plant operating, so it is trying to unload its assets piecemeal to pay off its debts. The first $75 million recovered is expected to go to Kaiser’s nonprofit organization and other investors;
it is unclear how much will be left for taxpayers.


Solyndra: Politics infused Obama energy programs - The Washington Post

Fast forward to today...

I had the privilege of implementing President Barack Obama’s demanding ethics vision for his administration, including its centerpiece, his “Day One” executive order setting tough new rules on conflicts of interest. It may seem like a very long time ago after four years of President Donald Trump, but Obama had arguably the most scandal-free presidency in memory owing to those clear ethics rules, backed by strong transparency about their application.

But Biden’s new executive order on ethics does us one better. It restores the fundamentals of the Obama plan, closing loopholes Trump opened—but going further, including new crackdowns on special interest influence. If implemented rigorously (always a big if) Biden’s plan promises to go further to “drain the swamp” than either of his predecessors.


I Wrote President Obama’s Ethics Plan—Biden’s Is Better. (msn.com)

I might be dating myself but an old high school cheer applies to the situation. Whenever a basketball ref made a bad call it went like this: Nuts and Bolts, Nuts and Bolts, we got screwed! You guys will rue the day you voted Biden.

Thank you.
“Coal baby, it’s coming back !”
 
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Fayette_LION

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Since the failure of the company, Obama’s entire $80 billion clean-technology program has begun to look like a political liability for an administration about to enter a bruising reelection campaign.

Meant to create jobs and cut reliance on foreign oil, Obama’s green-technology program was infused with politics at every level, The Washington Post found in an analysis of thousands of memos, company records and internal e-mails. Political considerations were raised repeatedly by company investors, Energy Department bureaucrats and White House officials.

The records, some previously unreported, show that when warned that financial disaster might lie ahead, the administration remained steadfast in its support for Solyndra.

When Solyndra was mentioned in a meeting, Biden’s office “about had an orgasm.”

Documents show that senior officials pushed career bureaucrats to rush their decision on the loan so Vice President Biden could announce it during a trip to California.

Like most presidential appearances, Obama’s May 2010 stop at Solyndra’s headquarters was closely managed political theater.

Obama’s handlers had lengthy e-mail discussions about how solar panels should be displayed (from a robotic arm, it was decided). They cautioned the company’s chief executive against wearing a suit (he opted for an open-neck shirt and black slacks) and asked another executive to wear a hard hat and white smock. They instructed blue-collar employees to wear everyday work clothes, to preserve what they called “the construction-worker feel.”

Solyndra has failed to attract a buyer who would keep the plant operating, so it is trying to unload its assets piecemeal to pay off its debts. The first $75 million recovered is expected to go to Kaiser’s nonprofit organization and other investors;
it is unclear how much will be left for taxpayers.


Solyndra: Politics infused Obama energy programs - The Washington Post

Fast forward to today...

I had the privilege of implementing President Barack Obama’s demanding ethics vision for his administration, including its centerpiece, his “Day One” executive order setting tough new rules on conflicts of interest. It may seem like a very long time ago after four years of President Donald Trump, but Obama had arguably the most scandal-free presidency in memory owing to those clear ethics rules, backed by strong transparency about their application.

But Biden’s new executive order on ethics does us one better. It restores the fundamentals of the Obama plan, closing loopholes Trump opened—but going further, including new crackdowns on special interest influence. If implemented rigorously (always a big if) Biden’s plan promises to go further to “drain the swamp” than either of his predecessors.


I Wrote President Obama’s Ethics Plan—Biden’s Is Better. (msn.com)

I might be dating myself but an old high school cheer applies to the situation. Whenever a basketball ref made a bad call it went like this: Nuts and Bolts, Nuts and Bolts, we got screwed! You guys will rue the day you voted Biden.

Thank you.
No worry, Jim and Hunter will come to the rescue for a small fee before they send it into bankruptcy.
 

Fayette_LION

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“Coal baby, it’s coming back !”
You and Rumble will love this spending project
FOA 2180: Net-Zero Carbon Electricity and Hydrogen Plants
The projects selected are as follows:

1. Design Development and System Integration Design Study for an Advanced Pressurized Fluidized Bed Combustion Power Plant with Carbon Capture CONSOL Energy Inc. (Canonsburg, PA) aims to design an advanced coal-based power plant with the potential to be demonstrated in the next 5–10 years and begin achieving market penetration by 2030. As part of previous work performed under the Coal FIRST program, the CONSOL team completed conceptual design and pre-FEED studies for a ~300 MWnet advanced coal-based power plant using pressurized fluidized bed combustion (PFBC) technology. The goals of this project are to advance the development of the advanced PFBC power plant to a state of completion that provides adequate information — including information on the plant design, host site, environmental considerations, CO2 disposition strategy, and pro-forma financials — for use by decision makers and investors, and by engineering, procurement, and construction contractors for follow-on activities needed to construct a prototype plant.

2. Front-End Engineering Design Study for Hybrid Gas Turbine and USC Coal Boiler Concept (HGCC) Plant with Post Combustion Carbon Capture and Energy Storage System at City, Water, Light and Power Plant The University of Illinois (Champaign, IL) seeks to complete a system integrated design study for a Hybrid Gas Turbine and USC Coal Boiler Concept (HGCC) with a post-combustion carbon capture and energy storage system that meets the requirements of the Coal FIRST program. The project combines several strands of DOE research in a single next-generation plant design. Enhancements in power plant and component design, on-site energy storage, environmental gains from fuel-efficiency, and carbon utilization and storage will be combined to contribute to a modernized power supply that can readily adapt to and enable the growth of variable renewable energy. The project will combine a state-of-the-art 270 MW ultra-supercritical coal boiler subsystem with an 87 MW natural gas combustion turbine generator subsystem, a 50 MW energy storage system subsystem, a post combustion carbon capture subsystem, and an algae-based CO2 utilization subsystem.

3. Gasification of Coal and Biomass: The Route to Net-Negative-Carbon Power and HydrogenElectric Power Research Institute, Inc. (Palo Alto, CA) and partners plan to perform a system integrated design study on an oxygen-blown gasification system coupled with water-gas shift, pre-combustion CO2 capture, and pressure-swing adsorption working off a coal/biomass mix to yield high-purity hydrogen and a fuel off-gas that can generate power. There are several designs capable of producing 50 MW net from a flexible generator, over 8500 kg/hr. of hydrogen, and net-negative CO2 emissions. The plant will be hosted at one of two Nebraska Public Power District sites, where opportunities for enhanced oil recovery and sequestration have been investigated and where the need for low-carbon power and hydrogen is imminent. The principal biomass to be used is corn stover, prevalent in Nebraska where the plant will be located. It will be mixed with Powder River Basin coal, necessitating a gasifier that can use this feedstock and be flexible to allow other types.
 
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pawrestlersintn

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“Coal baby, it’s coming back !”
Electricity generation from coal is expected to increase by 14% in 2021, due to increases in natural gas prices, according to the EIA. Shocking that wind and solar aren't picking up the slack, isn't it?

 

Fayette_LION

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Electricity generation from coal is expected to increase by 14% in 2021, due to increases in natural gas prices, according to the EIA. Shocking that wind and solar aren't picking up the slack, isn't it?

Natural gas and coal are prime competitors. When one is up, the other is down. Lots of plants that can burn either and they take the least costly energy to produce electricity. Need major improvements in technology to improve market share for wind and solar.
 

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