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Except Ryan builds Programs, not just Teams. 😉I didn’t mean it as OSU isn’t even trying until 2026, but timing is important in team building. OSU had some incredible teams that had the unfortunate timing of going against Zain, Nolf, Nickal, Cenzo, and Hall.
Apparently, also dynasties*Except Ryan builds Programs, not just Teams. 😉
Some of them are acting like Ryan hasn’t been recruiting lights out for years - and now we (I.e. Iowa and PSU - the top dogs) are in for it. The Covelli Center is getting shout outs even though it’s been around for a few years now.Apparently, also dynasties*
*recruiting
Actually… Iowa is Number 2 (in more ways than one)…but we already knew that.
Best of luck to the kid, not expecting him.
At least it won't be to another super power. UNC, Maryland, VT are his other options.Sounds like all the teas leaves are pointing away from us which sucks. TJ is one kid I really want. He is just scratching the surface of what he can be. His athleticism plus the PSU room and coaches and the sky is the limit. I hope everyone is wrong and he commits to the good guys!
Is west2east Corby?Best of luck to the kid, not expecting him.
@west2east guessed not Penn State. @tjb249 made kind of ominous comments that it won't be PSU either.
I hope you are right.Joe is on the podium this year! Write it down, chisel that in stone, whatever you want. Come see me at the NCAA’s so I can say I told you so!
Over the past competitive decade Ohio State has as many team championships as Iowa, more runner-up trophies and more individual champions. The only snap shot that let's Iowa claim a top 2 is if we are talking the past one, maybe 2 years.Some of them are acting like Ryan hasn’t been recruiting lights out for years - and now we (I.e. Iowa and PSU - the top dogs) are in for it. The Covelli Center is getting shout outs even though it’s been around for a few years now.
Yes, this year’s recruiting is their best ever on paper, but recruiting has never been their problem.
That’s what I get for reading 11 Warriors I guess.
All that said - and I think Iowa corrected course late in the decade - the main point is that Ryan has been recruiting lights out during the Cael era, but his hit rate is much lower.Over the past competitive decade Ohio State has as many team championships as Iowa, more runner-up trophies and more individual champions. The only snap shot that let's Iowa claim a top 2 is if we are talking the past one, maybe 2 years.
Great show today. No ..I was curious if you were West2East on this site. I thought I saw a post of yours saying that you posted on here under another name at one time but may be mistaken.Im on here whats up
Great show today. No ..I was curious if you were West2East on this site. I thought I saw a post of yours saying that you posted on here under another name at one time but may be mistaken.
@corbyV has been on the board(s) for quite a while now, just under a pseudonym. I honestly thought that most of the regulars knew what handle he posts with here...
Kilkeary is better than Maruca was.All that said - and I think Iowa corrected course late in the decade - the main point is that Ryan has been recruiting lights out during the Cael era, but his hit rate is much lower.
Pa homers crying about Kilkeary. Reminds me of the Maruca bellyaching.
Tom's (Ryan or Brands) hit rate will always be lower than Cael's. Whatever it is that Cael, Cody, Casey, Jake know about training cycles, rest, game planning and development compared to the others is like comparing the grandmaster's chess skills to those chess players who are just pretty good.All that said - and I think Iowa corrected course late in the decade - the main point is that Ryan has been recruiting lights out during the Cael era, but his hit rate is much lower.
Pa homers crying about Kilkeary. Reminds me of the Maruca bellyaching.
Iowa figured out how to secure a fully loaded lineup, send 10 to the tournament, and win the championship. That said, hopefully we will be able to knock off the favorite this year.Tom's (Ryan or Brands) hit rate will always be lower than Cael's. Whatever it is that Cael, Cody, Casey, Jake know about training cycles, rest, game planning and development compared to the others is like comparing the grandmaster's chess skills to those chess players who are just pretty good.
That said, Iowa may have figured something out, but other than getting Spencer I do not think Iowa has figured anything out. As soon as Spencer is done winning Iowa's annual individual title the Hawks will return to their rightful position. Somewhere 2 or 3 steps behind Penn State and Cael.
So the other 9 wrestlers are what then? PSU had 4 National Champs last year and still lost the title to Iowa. How did that happen? I feel Iowa had some good pick ups along the way other than just Spencer.Tom's (Ryan or Brands) hit rate will always be lower than Cael's. Whatever it is that Cael, Cody, Casey, Jake know about training cycles, rest, game planning and development compared to the others is like comparing the grandmaster's chess skills to those chess players who are just pretty good.
That said, Iowa may have figured something out, but other than getting Spencer I do not think Iowa has figured anything out. As soon as Spencer is done winning Iowa's annual individual title the Hawks will return to their rightful position. Somewhere 2 or 3 steps behind Penn State and Cael.
The other nine are what I said they were, good enough to keep Iowa a step, two or three behind PSU. Right where they usually are.So the other 9 wrestlers are what then? PSU had 4 National Champs last year and still lost the title to Iowa. How did that happen? I feel Iowa had some good pick ups along the way other than just Spencer.
So the other 9 wrestlers are what then? PSU had 4 National Champs last year and still lost the title to Iowa. How did that happen? I feel Iowa had some good pick ups along the way other than just Spencer.
You are not using that saying correctly. I made a rational comment.Hey WildTurk, it's called banter. If you can dish it you should be able to take it, as they say.
They finished 1st and are currently the Champs. That's considered a step ahead of your team in my book.The other nine are what I said they were, good enough to keep Iowa a step, two or three behind PSU. Right where they usually are.
I agree with the timing but a coach should never “punt” on a season. It’s horrible for the sport.Ohio State is definitely following the 2015 model. Load up for the year following PSU’s graduation of a grouping of 4 year guys. Hit that sweet spot where we will probably punt/redshirt the next group of hammers. 2026, the year of the Buckeye.
English. Understanding word meaning.They finished 1st and are currently the Champs. That's considered a step ahead of your team in my book.
English. Understanding word meaning.
You ask me without Spencer what are the other nine. Runners up.
With Spencer they are the champs.
It isn't that hard.
i've seen this a couple times (and i know it's a troll, but it's an interesting topic) and it's not really true. most of the sebolt guys who have committed are room guys. then there are a some elite guys that are legit recruits no matter where they're from. 3 top 10 overall recruits in their class with Ayala, Jesuroga, and Kueter. Then really solid top 30ish guys like Riggins and Schreiver. The reason why Iowa went after so many PA kids is because the instate talent completely tanked for several years. This is the first time in a bit that there have been multiple elite in state recruits, so it's no surprise Iowa scooped them up.Iowa went all in on Sebolt. It was a bold move but unfortunately I don’t see it paying off for them. They probably got sick of hearing Iowa is nothing more than the pa pipeline
I agree with the timing but a coach should never “punt” on a season. It’s horrible for the sport.
Feldman's finalists were F&M, Purdue, Ohio State, MIchigan, Navy, and VT.Did Cael go after Feldman? I’m kinda surprised he didn’t end up at psu. Athletic HW’s aren’t easy to come by. I guess the next in line would be Jim Mullen might be the next guy? It’ll be interesting if he picks football, wrestling or both.
Penn just got a big time HW in Carroll. Surprised penn state wasn’t in on him either.
Did Cael go after Feldman? I’m kinda surprised he didn’t end up at psu. Athletic HW’s aren’t easy to come by. I guess the next in line would be Jim Mullen might be the next guy? It’ll be interesting if he picks football, wrestling or both.
Penn just got a big time HW in Carroll. Surprised penn state wasn’t in on him either.