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OT: Skeller closing

As much as I like preserving old buildings the bar owners should of taken a look at buying the building these past 80 years.
 
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Totally ot, but when I was in grad school at Rutgers, there was an on-campus pub (Rutgers Pub and totally university-affiliated) in the basement of the student union. Yes, the prices were lower than off-campus bars/pubs and you had to get a pub-specific ID to be able to enter. Only issue was it closed early (11pm, as I recall) but between the campus bus system and the prices, it was pretty much an ideal place.
 
I think the new tenants will do a good job even though nothing is announced beyond the fact they intend to have a restaurant/bar business take over both locations.. With the Herlocher folks stating that the building will not be torn down and rebuild, the feel and atmosphere of the location should remain pretty decent.. Lets be honest..the Skeller was a fun joint, no doubt, but if you had one bar to go to and only one bar to go to for the rest of your days.. not a whole lot of folks would have chosen the Skeller.. at least I know I would not have.. It is sad that an older establishment is going away but sometimes change is good.. we shall see..

To me, the Skeller is one of the best college bars in America and I don't think I'm alone in thinking that. Top 5 best Penn State tradition for a lot of alumni. Oldest bar in PA. People in the industry worried they're going to turn the skeller into a joebot sports bar banking on everyone being cool with it cause it'll have the Paterno connection. Explains Jay's bizarre defense of it last night on twitter. That would not be cool.
 
Don't frequent the college bar scene anymore, though have fond memories of the Skeller starting over 40 years ago. Initials are on one of the tables somewhere!! Hope it "survives" this situation with no changes. Didn't realize some of the historical facts...pretty cool.
 
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Lets raise the funds and make it a wrestling hangout ;)

So let's play this idea forward..... the board raises money to buy the Skeller. Then we host the first ever PA Fight Night in our new basement dive bar and invite all the PA D1 wrestling coaches. There are a bunch of them so it would be a packed house with coaches, media and fans. Cael decides this is beneath him so he sends Nico in his place. Nico attends and delivers an F-bomb laced tirade in front of the media.... This definitely moves the needle from 'having fun' to 'having a BLAST!' ;)
 
So let's play this idea forward..... the board raises money to buy the Skeller. Then we host the first ever PA Fight Night in our new basement dive bar and invite all the PA D1 wrestling coaches. There are a bunch of them so it would be a packed house with coaches, media and fans. Cael decides this is beneath him so he sends Nico in his place. Nico attends and delivers an F-bomb laced tirade in front of the media.... This definitely moves the needle from 'having fun' to 'having a BLAST!' ;)
I'm sure Spyker is in for $500. Only question is whether the other patrons will let him in, or if he'll have to sit outside, looking down through the windows, like he has to at practice.
 
Don't frequent the college bar scene anymore, though have fond memories of the Skeller starting over 40 years ago. Initials are on one of the tables somewhere!! Hope it "survives" this situation with no changes. Didn't realize some of the historical facts...pretty cool.

Never would have pegged you as an inscriber . . . Those must have been pre-Mrs. Roar days. ;)
 
I'm concerned about the this establishment being closed as a result of info in a 3inch binder indicating this is the place where global domination plans are created! Can't believe corn money could buy it out!
 
Don't frequent the college bar scene anymore, though have fond memories of the Skeller starting over 40 years ago. Initials are on one of the tables somewhere!! Hope it "survives" this situation with no changes. Didn't realize some of the historical facts...pretty cool.

Never would have pegged you as an inscriber . . . Those must have been pre-Mrs. Roar days. ;)
Correct, senior on Main Campus, 1977. Mrs. Roar appeared in 1981. And your "pegging" isn't too far off...spent more time studying than hitting the bar scene. It was weekends only on occasion, or Wednesday night oldies at the Saloon when I could. Hit all the bars noted in this thread, also the Brewery, for Suzie Wong's egg rolls, and a beer...not nearly as much as I'm sensing from others in this thread...as far as hitting the bars, even now :).
 
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got 8:30 reservation for spats tonight. Trying to get to town early to do some shopping and break a glass at the skeller for old times sake.

Ill try to get some 3" binder material to report back.
 
I wasn't a student but went to a lot of football games the 1980s and stayed over for the night for the bar scene.
Remember the free gift at the Skeller if got a case of Rolling Rock ponys.
A bottle opener.
I'd like to know how many people have whacked their head on the pipe going down the stairs at the Phyrst.
Seems to me they had a bar band called Phyrst Family.? Did a lot of sing along 60s and 70s songs.
Anyone know if they still play at Phyrst.?
You misunderstood. The bottle opener is a tip for the waitress. You are lucky you got out alive.
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I bought a skeller T-shirt last night and our waitress at dinner really held nothing back talking about the situation. The restaurants have a christmas party coming up and I expect the BWI boards will be flush with info after that party speech.

The waitress was not kind to the paternos.
 
Skeller last call will be Sat 1/27 -- day after the home dual vs. the Goofers.
 
Heard today that Ye Olde College Diner might close too. Grilled sticky's, 2:00am or thereabouts, 1974 through 1978. Local staple!! Anyone remember Gus's Cheesesteaks??
 
Heard today that Ye Olde College Diner might close too. Grilled sticky's, 2:00am or thereabouts, 1974 through 1978. Local staple!! Anyone remember Gus's Cheesesteaks??
Spent a few nights at 4am having breakfast at the diner. 82-85 for me. I'm not old like some people. ;)
 
Just breaking balls. The only times I went there were for bar tours, beer selection was good...I think. Dont remember bands there.

If I was doing basement bars, it was Dark horse, Skeller or the Phyrst. In college I was in a different bar scene than I would be now. I think I put a floor on the MBNA building courtesy of the former G-Man and Big Easy. Tall Red Bull and Stoly Raz was like a drug starting thursday and ending Saturday.

RU post game we stopped in the Phyrst, skeller, cafe, adams apple, grill & Pickles. Reminding me that Im as good once as I ever was.
Queen Bee used to sing there on Sunday Nights. Good times after a hard weekend of drinking.
 
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That pretty much covers it. They should have negotiated on a new lease before buying the property. If they couldn't come to terms don't buy the property. However, no matter who the buyer ended up being sounds like the Skeller and Spats were going away in any case.
When the buildings where being sold, no potential buyers where allowed to look at current leases. The Skeller has been signing 1 year leases since the 80's. The current crop of buildings being sold goes up and includes the Chinese Restaurant. Those business have been working on multiple year leases. I have heard there where some rumblings about selling the name Skeller but that as well fell through. Sounds like to hard headed business men not able to negotiate decent terms for both parties. In the end, fans of the Skeller and Spatz lose out. Personally, I like the Skeller (maybe not as much while in college) but I still walked in every time I was up. I proposed to my wife on the nittany lion, then went straight to the Skeller for a shot. 16 years later we had our last drink in there in December. So we had our 1 more.
 
When the buildings where being sold, no potential buyers where allowed to look at current leases. The Skeller has been signing 1 year leases since the 80's. The current crop of buildings being sold goes up and includes the Chinese Restaurant. Those business have been working on multiple year leases. I have heard there where some rumblings about selling the name Skeller but that as well fell through. Sounds like to hard headed business men not able to negotiate decent terms for both parties. In the end, fans of the Skeller and Spatz lose out. Personally, I like the Skeller (maybe not as much while in college) but I still walked in every time I was up. I proposed to my wife on the nittany lion, then went straight to the Skeller for a shot. 16 years later we had our last drink in there in December. So we had our 1 more.


I have bought plenty of apt buildings in my life. It makes zero sense to not allow the leases to be viewed. How can you verify income? It sounds like this deal was guided in one directiin from the beginning.
 
I have bought plenty of apt buildings in my life. It makes zero sense to not allow the leases to be viewed. How can you verify income? It sounds like this deal was guided in one directiin from the beginning.

100% agree. Anyone that would even consider buying a commercial building without looking at the lease or leases is well, I'd like to be kind, but that is just idiotic.
 
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I have bought plenty of apt buildings in my life. It makes zero sense to not allow the leases to be viewed. How can you verify income? It sounds like this deal was guided in one directiin from the beginning.
Can't say I have and agree with you. Giving you first hand information from 1 of the store owners in this deal. Not suggesting the deal was right or wrong. Only thing I know is I'm losing a place that I have some very good memories in like so many of us on the board.
 
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100% agree. Anyone that would even consider buying a commercial building without looking at the lease or leases is well, I'd like to be kind, but that is just idiotic.
Maybe. That would certainly be ideal, but the buyer's realtor should be able to assess the commercial rental market anyway.

Good chance the realtor doubles as the property manager for comparable downtown bldgs, thus has access to those leases to "survey the market."

If you view it as a long term buy, and you have enough money to belong to or join the Downtown State College oligarchy, then an initial period of suboptimal revenue probably isn't a no go.
 
Maybe. That would certainly be ideal, but the buyer's realtor should be able to assess the commercial rental market anyway.

Good chance the realtor doubles as the property manager for comparable downtown bldgs, thus has access to those leases to "survey the market."

If you view it as a long term buy, and you have enough money to belong to or join the Downtown State College oligarchy, then an initial period of suboptimal revenue probably isn't a no go.

That is way to iffy and no bank is going to lend you the money for the purchase without knowing what the revenue stream will be. Which means this is either all BS or the buyers already had a new tenant or tenants lined up and KNOW how much rent they are willing to pay. The info in the CDT articles on this is very poor. If the Skeller can't afford the rent the new owners want because they can't make a profit then how can some other business make a profit paying that rent? Answer is there is a lot of info about all of this we don't know and I bet the new owners do or they would not have bought the place. Or of course, they could just not be to bright. Either way what has been reported has not told anything close to the whole story.
 
Maybe. That would certainly be ideal, but the buyer's realtor should be able to assess the commercial rental market anyway.

Good chance the realtor doubles as the property manager for comparable downtown bldgs, thus has access to those leases to "survey the market."

If you view it as a long term buy, and you have enough money to belong to or join the Downtown State College oligarchy, then an initial period of suboptimal revenue probably isn't a no go.


I understand what you are saying to a point but I have seen some interesting leases and "grandfathered uses" in leases. Obviously you can get a lawyer involved etc but it's not typical to witthold leases. Politics always play a part to some extent in towns like SC and I would be shocked if that wasnt the case here.
 
Was there last night. One week left.

The framed PSU wrestling legends poster is still hanging on the wall next to the men's room door. If the owner is not looking to keep it for himself, maybe it would make a good silent auction item for the slush fund.
 
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You guys have local breweries in town?

I am no longer an expert, since I graduated in 1986, but I believe there are two, Happy Valley and Otto’s, though neither are in the part of downtown that is generally walking distance from campus.
 
It’s a bar. And objectively it hasn’t struck a chord with me in 25 years. Will I miss it being an option? Some. Now Zeno’s, Scorpion (RIP), Brickhouse (RIP), that’s a different matter.

I didn’t turn 21 until Dec ‘85, and my preference ordering is something like, ...

Zeno’s

Brickhouse

Scorpion

Skeller (older)

210

Phyrst

Brewery (Pizza Pi & Yuengling 1/2&1/2

Skeller (newer)

G Man (more for its Mechanicsburg ties)

Saloon (used to index a little high on higher-income dicks)

Den (never quite got it)

Gaff (OK when you’re exactly 21 with no $$)
 
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with the closing this week I just called to get a table at spats before the goofer match....no can do. Said they are booked solid this whole week, but could I come in for lunch saturday.

So I called the Tavern and will instead sin before the match......
 
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