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it appears so (FS1 and FS2 are not part of the deal) So what will this mean??
http://adage.com/article/media/espn--acquisition-fox-regional-game-changer-streaming/311537/

FOX REGIONAL SPORTS NETWORKS WOULD BE A GAME-CHANGER FOR ESPN



By Anthony Crupi. Published on December 05, 2017.

While investors may be riveted by the implications of the Walt Disney Co.'s impending bid to snap up 21st Century Fox's entertainment assets, the most transformative element of the proposed $60 billion deal could very well be the transfer of Fox's regional sports networks.

Reports on earlier talks did not include the sale of the 22 Fox owned-and-operated RSNs, which distribute local NBA, NHL and Major League Baseball games to roughly half the country's TV markets. According to CNBC's David Faber, Disney and Fox could close ona revised deal, including the sale of the regional sports networks, as early as next week.


Fox's flagship broadcast network and the cable sports nets FS1 and FS2 are not included in the latest offer.

Should the deal go through, ESPN's national cable networks would be supplemented by a clutch of RSNs that serve sports-crazed markets such as New York, Los Angeles, Dallas, Cleveland, Detroit and Kansas City. While the Yankees' YES Network is clearly the crown jewel of the Fox RSN empire (this past season, the Baby Bombers averaged a 3.6 household rating on their home network, which works out to just shy of 255,000 in-market viewers per game), the smaller channels also pack a wallop.

Fox's Ohio-based RSN in 2017 averaged an MLB-high 8.3 rating during its coverage of live Cleveland Indians games, and the same outlet delivered the second-highest local NBA ratings thanks to LeBron James and the Cavaliers.

Fox holds a controlling 80 percent stake in YES Network, the remainder of which is owned by the New York Yankees.

That Fox is willing to part with its lucrative RSN business -- according to SNL Kagan, YES Network alone commands a princely $6.50 per sub per month affiliate fee, quite a premium when compared to the cable industry average of 30¢ a pop -- suggests that the Murdoch family foresees the day when the fundamentals of doing business in local sports markets will outweigh the concomitant financial advantages. The dynamics of cord-cutting/-shaving and younger viewers' ongoing exodus from traditional TV may very well make it impossible for Fox to continue to charge the dizzying carriage fees it currently extracts from cable and satellite operators, which in turn would only exacerbate the spiraling costs of procuring rights to top-tier live sporting events.

Pushback from the operators is nothing new; some 900,000 Comcast subscribers in the Tri-State area missed out on the Yankees' entire 2016 campaign after the cable giant refused to pony up for what it characterized as a 33 percent carriage fee hike. The two sides came to terms in time for the 2017 MLB season.

Which brings us to ESPN. If Fox presumably no longer believes that it can operate at the sort of scale that will allow it to continue to compete with the likes of Bristol, Disney is confident that the addition of the RSN suite will give ESPN a license to print (even more) money. Besides giving it a virtual stranglehold over local sports (the Fox RSNs currently are home base for 44 MLB, NBA and NHL franchises), the acquisition of the rights to an additional 5,500 live events per year would sweeten the pot for fans who may be thinking of signing up for ESPN's upcoming direct-to-consumer streaming service.

While Disney has played its ESPN OTT cards close to the vest, keeping its own counsel on how it will brand, price and program the new service, the infusion of live NBA games could go a long way toward generating greater interest in the initiative. When Disney first announced its OTT scheme, the company said the live content would be limited to MLB, NHL and Major League Soccer games, plus some Grand Slam tennis events and college sports. Of the latter category, it is believed that ESPN does not plan to offer OTT content from the Power Five athletic conferences (ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC).

Back in 1998, Disney shelved plans to establish a West Coast RSN after two of the franchises it had hoped to lure from Fox Sports West elected to renew their carriage agreements. For the better part of the last 20 years, ESPN has shown little interest in carving out a local TV business, although the ongoing migration of MLB and NHL audiences from national to hometown platforms may prove top be another mitigating factor. According to Magna research, 25 percent of NHL fans during the 2016-17 season watched their local teams exclusively on RSNs rather than turn to the national NBC/NBCSN feeds.

As expected, Fox had little to say about today's news. "There's nothing to add to that other than the nothing we've said so far," 21st Century Fox CEO James Murdoch said at Tuesday morning's UBS Global Media and Communications Conference.
 
Of a more parochial interest, what happens to Fox's stake in BTN?
 
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I haven’t read any article that states whether the controlling 51% is included or excluded from the proposed deal. It will also be interesting to see the anti-trust review of this purchase, if any. Disney’s control of sports programming, especially CFB, would seem to be on the cusp of being monopolistic.
 
I haven’t read any article that states whether the controlling 51% is included or excluded from the proposed deal. It will also be interesting to see the anti-trust review of this purchase, if any. Disney’s control of sports programming, especially CFB, would seem to be on the cusp of being monopolistic.

Whatever review of this deal takes place will be perfunctory at most.

Would make no sense for Fox to keep the BTN when it is selling the remainder of its RSNs, particularly YES. Then again, ESPN may not want it.
 
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Whatever review of this deal takes place will be perfunctory at most.

Would make no sense for Fox to keep the BTN when it is selling the remainder of its RSNs, particularly YES. Then again, ESPN may not want it.

You have to be kidding. This is like Disney letting the "FOX" in the hen house (pun intended). If this deal passes the anti-trust review, I would be absolutely shocked. Robert Iger would become Rupert Murdoch's puppet for as long as Rupert wanted, after which, Rupert would probably appoint his son, Jim as CEO.

Even though the Murdochs would be minority shareholders, they would be the biggest individual shareholders, and are negotiating veto and approval power over any major decisions, which would include naming the CEOs. Another stipulation would be that Iger stay in power past 2019 (when he was set to "retire") so as to aid in the "transition.

In other words, with regards to John Skipper and ESPN, if Rupert or his sons said "jump" Johnny Skipper would say "how far"????

And as far as I know right now, BTN is going to remain under the FOX Sports umbrella. Not ESPN's.
 
Could someone explain what the article means by "ESPN OTT cards"?

Xmen and the original family to MCU is great!

Potential to lose shows like American Horror Story from FX and FXX, not as great.
 
Thank you. That is great news.
Fox News, Fox Sports and the Fox broadcast network are all said not to be part of the deal. Main assets that Disney would purchase would be the movie and television studios, the Star cable and media company in India, and stakes in both the British broadcaster Sky and Hulu.

Comcast is also making a bid. Seems that Disney has the edge - as of now.
 
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Apparently, Comcast is no longer interested in the Fox assets. Fox had made it clear early on that they preferred Disney.
 
Could someone explain what the article means by "ESPN OTT cards"?

Xmen and the original family to MCU is great!

Potential to lose shows like American Horror Story from FX and FXX, not as great.

Also opens the door to some great villains for the MCU. Skrulls, Galactus, Annihilus and of course the most fearsome of all, the mighty Paste Pot Pete.

I read a pretty good rationale for keeping the mutant universe separate from the MCU, even if the rights to the X-Men do come to Disney. A big part of the X-Men mythos is that humanity fears mutants, whether good or evil -- some of that goes away if they're brought into a universe where the Avengers exist. Just a thought. On the other hand, seeing Magneto take on the Avengers would be pretty fun too. I don't like Iron Man's chances in that fight.

I'm hoping that Fox doesn't botch the upcoming New Mutants movie. Looks like they're making it into a horror story. The original (and best, IMHO) run of New Mutts had some of that, for sure, but there were also plenty of lighter moments where these kids were enjoying coming to grips with their powers. I hope that doesn't get lost in the film version.
 
Very early, but similar to consolidation of horse drawn carriage makers.
Perhaps a bit extreme of a comparison. Nevertheless, it does appear that Bob Iger is betting his legacy that they can make this work and compete with NFLX. Pretty tough when you start that far behind in the race. Cannot deny the brand and content though, and with the international assets and HULU who knows? These types of integrations are difficult. It seems there is a strong possibility that James Murdoch will be involved in the new Disney. Might be the primary reason the Murdochs have been so partial to the Disney offer from the beginning.
 
You have to be kidding. This is like Disney letting the "FOX" in the hen house (pun intended). If this deal passes the anti-trust review, I would be absolutely shocked. Robert Iger would become Rupert Murdoch's puppet for as long as Rupert wanted, after which, Rupert would probably appoint his son, Jim as CEO.

Even though the Murdochs would be minority shareholders, they would be the biggest individual shareholders, and are negotiating veto and approval power over any major decisions, which would include naming the CEOs. Another stipulation would be that Iger stay in power past 2019 (when he was set to "retire") so as to aid in the "transition.

In other words, with regards to John Skipper and ESPN, if Rupert or his sons said "jump" Johnny Skipper would say "how far"????

And as far as I know right now, BTN is going to remain under the FOX Sports umbrella. Not ESPN's.

Under normal circumstances, this deal gets about the same level, maybe even less, of review Comcast/NBC, which took just over a year. In the Trump Administration...pffffttt!! The Justice Department and FCC will be falling over themselves to see who can sprinkle holy water on it sooner.

Bob Iger,a puppet? LMFAO. He was planning to retire before this deal surfaced. He'll either negotiate a deal that he likes, or he'll exit stage left. Dealing with the Murdochs on an ongoing basis? Again, he's either happy or he leaves.

In the overall scope of the deal, BTN doesn't command much attention. Going forward, it doesn't quite fit into the reformed Fox. Who can say what that means.
 
In the overall scope of the deal, BTN doesn't command much attention. Going forward, it doesn't quite fit into the reformed Fox. Who can say what that means.
It will be interesting to see how Fox handles their 51% of the BTN. I don't know the details of the Fox/BTN marriage but maybe there's a clause which gives the B1G the first shot at buying 2% in order to regain a controlling interest so a competitor doesn't swoop in and try to weaken its appeal. Of course if the B1G gains the hypothetical extra 2% the Fox share would become less desirable since there is no controlling interest attached to it.

The BTN debuted in 2007 along with a twenty year deal with Fox. Maybe Fox will just let the clock run out and then say goodbye or maybe a new agreement will be reached. The latest media rights deal expires in 2023. It doesn't coincide with the 2027 expiration of the Fox/BTN deal but it could be close enough to have an impact on the next media rights negotiations.
 
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Could someone explain what the article means by "ESPN OTT cards"?

Over-the-top, it means any content not done through traditional media broadcasting. This is really important for internet streaming (both audio and video) because ESPN is basically trying to do a Netflix for live sports in which you would need all of those OTT rights.

Source: I’m a programmatic media buyer.
 
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Disney/Fox deal is official. The cost is $52.4 billion in stock and the assumption of $13.7 billion in debt. Iger will remain Disney's chairman and CEO through 2021 - no presidential run. Will be real interesting to hear the DOJ's take on this. Strange things a brewin' over there these days.
 
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The Disney/Fox deal does not include the BTN. That channel is staying with 21st Century Fox. Makes sense to me since it is a good compliment to FS1/FS2 and the sports programming on the Fox network. 21st Century Fox is focusing on their news and national sports going forward.
 
It will be interesting to see how Fox handles their 51% of the BTN. I don't know the details of the Fox/BTN marriage but maybe there's a clause which gives the B1G the first shot at buying 2% in order to regain a controlling interest so a competitor doesn't swoop in and try to weaken its appeal. Of course if the B1G gains the hypothetical extra 2% the Fox share would become less desirable since there is no controlling interest attached to it.

The BTN debuted in 2007 along with a twenty year deal with Fox. Maybe Fox will just let the clock run out and then say goodbye or maybe a new agreement will be reached. The latest media rights deal expires in 2023. It doesn't coincide with the 2027 expiration of the Fox/BTN deal but it could be close enough to have an impact on the next media rights negotiations.

The deal between the Big Ten and the Big Ten Network runs to 2032.
 
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